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Love Jihad is a reality. however, Sanghparivar is using this as a key point to score. those who have eyes let them see- A mixture of reality and propaganda.
 
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What is this 'love Jihad'? This is a derogatory term coined by religiously fanatic Hindu party BJP; why is this being allowed to be tagged with each and every thread, which has something to do with conversion (force or not is another issue)? The same term has also been used previously in threads on teen sex scandal in UK etc.

1. Social issues associated with two partners following different religions are very obvious, especially in non-Eurpean societies where people prefer to live in close association with their families. It is not unnatural for one partner to ask the other to convert to his/her religion (which religion is not my point of concern) purely to avoid social consequences. Force conversion has little (or nothing) to do with the religion but of macho behavior of men in male-dominated societies. It is not about a particular religion i.e. Islam, for I am 100% sure that a person's demand from his wife to convert to 'his' religion would still be there had he had converted to Christianity, or Budhism or any other religion. Unfortunately, it is being associated with Islam, which is highest degree of intellectual dishonesty.

2. Now the use of love Jihad term in the case of sexual exploitation of teens in the UK (or elsewhere). If those who got themselves involved into those lustful actions were practicing Muslims, they would have never got involved in the first place. In the Islamic Shariah, the sentence for the Zina (sex outside marriage) is severe than the sentence for a murder. The existence of such a severe punishment (80 lashes to unmarried, and stone-to-death to married male or female) is a proof in itself that Islam discourages its followers to get indulged into actions such as extra-marital relationships let alone heinous crimes such as rape.

How on earth can Jihad, which is among the noblest deeds in Islam, be associated with filthy things such as force-conversion and rape? What if we use terms as Love Chanakya or Love Hindutva for Hindus involved in rape and/or molestation, which are a lot by the way? Obviously it would not be acceptable. Therefore I request here to kindly discuss this matter at management level and impose a ban on the use of certain derogatory terms associated with Islam for they have nothing to do with Islam or any other religion for that matter.

These Hindus without a doubt are anti Islamic and against Muslims. They are totally racist from inside out. They can't even tolerate Muslims in their own country. With direct orders of modi, thousands of Muslims were brutally killed. And before the creation of Pakistan and india these Hindus use to convert Muslims into Hindus by force.
Our forefathers fought for seperate home land just because of this sick mentality that they carries against islam.

The term was in use even before Modi Govt. came to power .
Indians and their history classes. lol
 
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Originally poster by MBI Munshi here: The Narrative Of Love Jihad

The Narrative Of Love Jihad
By Abdul Majid Zargar

31 August, 2014
Countercurrents.org

As if their vilification and demonization was not enough, Godse’s children have now weaved a new narrative around Indian Muslim youth -that they indulge in “Love Jihad”.

The origin of this slanderous narrative, referring to an alleged Muslim plot to convert young Hindu girls to Islam by having Muslim boys entrap them in love affairs, can be traced back to Kerala wherefrom it travelled to Karnatka in 2007. Since these Southern States were outside the political clutches of RSS & its political arm BJP, the narrative was constructed & used to hilt to polarize the society along communal lines for electoral gains. So much so that Election Commission had to issue a show cause notice to Karnataka’s Deputy Chief Minister, KS Eshwarappa when he used the term excessively in his campaign trail in 2013 to divide the electorate.

The term love jihad was given a sudden legitimacy when the Kerala High Court, on a reference in 2009, asked the police to look into the matter. In 2010, the controversy resurfaced in the press when Kerala Chief Minister V. S. Achuthanandan referred to the alleged matrimonial conversion of non-Muslim girls as part of an effort to make Kerala a Muslim majority state. A probe was ordered which found the allegations utterly false & baseless .Authorities in both Kerala and Karnataka eventually denied that such a plan existed. But the fact that it was actually investigated through a judicial intervention gave a huge boost to the idea that love jihad might be a real strategy.

This narrative has a pre-partition history as well. In 1920’s, The Hindu Arya Samaj launched campaigns against abduction and conversion of Hindu girls using poems like “Chand Musalmanon Ki Harkaten” .A shuddi movement, aimed at reconversion of Muslims back to Hindu fold, was also launched by Arya Samaj around this period under the patronage of Lala Lajpat Rai, considered to be a pillar of extremist nationalism in India . Little known but Interesting that this movement was based on Kashmir’s Dogra ruler Ranbir Singh’s 21-volume encyclopaedia by the name of “Ranbir Karit Prayaschit Mahanibandh” ['Ranbir's Great Essay on Repentance']. This book argued the case and suggested strategies for the mass conversion of all Muslims in India to ‘Hinduism’. It is believed that around three million Muslims were converted under this Hindu revivalist movement. The shuddi movement provoked Muslim leaders and groups to launch counter initiatives to check the Arya Samaj’s conversion drive which led to a riotous partition of India. I believe that Indian historians are well aware of this undisputed fact. Unfortunately its memories have come to haunt again with the recent mass conversion of christains into Hinduism in Agra.

Kashmir had its own tryst with an episode of this kind in late seventies when a pandit girl married a local Muslim boy. Pandits came on roads with huge processions. The Hindus in rest of India found a common cause with Pandits to stir the issue & arouse religious passions. When the matter was thoroughly investigated, it turned that the girl’s conversion to Islam was voluntary without any coercion. The matter rested after a huge political turmoil which at one stage threatened to damage the relations between the two communities.

The mantra of Love Jihad is yet another attempt to vilify Indian Muslims already reeling under tyranny of obscurantist Hindutva forces. The magnitude of the problem can be gauged from the slander & mudslinging thrown at this largest minority by surfing through “ readers comments” to news/columns published in on-line Editions of national & regional newspapers. While it is generally believed to be a handiwork of computer- savy lumpens known as inter-net Hindus, the concerned newspapers are either sympathetic or helpless before this lunatic tribe as their own in-built policy of “ moderation of Comments ” is rarely invoked to block the muckraking.

With BJP’s ascendance to power at centre and in many other states, the confidence of minorities in the role of the state is fast crumbling, especially as regards their physical protection & prevention of communal violence. Hindu right-wing dominated State governments are lending tacit or express support to the Hindu zealots to promote the agenda of violence & hatred. Many years after anti-Muslim violence in Gujarat (2002) and Mumbai (1993) offenders still wait to be sentenced. Instead, persons convicted of murder have been let free like Maya Kodnani & babu Bajrangi in Gujrat. Similarly Sangeet som, accused of engineering Muzaffar nagar riots has been awarded Z+ security cover. To top it all a rabid communal lunatic has been made in charge of UP poll campaign.

And all this does not augur well for India.
 
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Love Jihad is a total drama created by Modi led government

Do research before posting something, Modi came to power in June2014, I heard this term first in 2010, that too in Kerala, Probably that time Modi himself may not have been aware of this term.....

On the topic of "Love Jihad"

I can understand the feeling of those who hate to hear such words, and i can understand the sentiments associated with this word. But There is a reason behind that.

This was the idea of some fanatics and extremists organisation such as NDF, started this programme 3, 4 years back. Some how this news and its name got leaked and got highlighted in kerala, and there was a counter propaganda by Hindu organisations, and because of its publicity and awareness this project was dropped.

When it comes to usage of words, You need to blame it on to those idiots who used this word for such stupid agenda. The awareness and education should be given to those who come up with such ideas.

I have no idea how right or wrong is this recent accusation, so cant comment on it.....
 
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First - you have quoted coutercurrents - a pro Jihadi website that does not even consider Ahmedis as Muslims (among others) :enjoy:

the confidence of minorities in the role of the state is fast crumbling
First the vast majority of the minorities have nothing to do with this. As for the nutjobs -
Like how they lost the confidence in the State of Iraq? Seems like putting their confidence on State institutions is not their forte, it it? -This is how the author puts it.

A shuddi movement, aimed at reconversion of Muslims back to Hindu fold, was also launched by Arya Samaj around this period under the patronage of Lala Lajpat Rai, considered to be a pillar of extremist nationalism in India
Conversion from Hinduism to Islam is halal, but the reverse is not? Fascist Islamist logic.

Godse’s children have now weaved a new narrative around Indian Muslim youth -that they indulge in “Love Jihad”.
So we are all Godse's children now. That's a nice term for Hindus. Don't patronize by saying that - 'All Hindus are not Hindutvas'. The article makes no distinction between the two, and neither do you.


As for hundreds of girls duped in India and the world over, your crocodile tears don't matter, nor will your attempt to whitewash the crimes help.

In past week itself, a national level shooter has lodged an FIR and the ex-'husband' has been arrested. Along with 36 SIM cards :omghaha:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/36-sim-cards-found-in-house-of-love-jihad-accused/article1-1258473.aspx
And this is not a one off case either. Last week itself another lady forced into conversion, then nikah, followed by forced sex (called gangrape in civilized societies). And these are just the tips of a bigger iceberg (that is getting unclothed as we speak)

Thousands of girls used to fall victim to this heinous act before. Not any more. Cry as much as you wish to, pray and scream for the pathetic individuals who marry with an insidious motive, but our girls themselves will take this criminals head on. The only responsibility the Hindu organizations have is to accept the social responsibility of these girls - see that they cope up with the trauma.

There is no patriarchial strain here. The girls themselves are filing FIRs, in full public scrutiny, without regard for their own future and safety. We will make sure the criminals and vermin have no place to hide.

Also DON'T try to make it a Hindu vs Muslim issue. This is a Civilized vs Criminal Jihadi issue. Plenty of Muslim organizations support the Hindu orgs in these matter. It brings great shame to the majority of Muslims in India who have nothing to do with the rabid thought so evident in many of you(not that I imply anything).

Thanks.

@Ravi Nair @Indischer @levina @scorpionx @kurup @KRAIT @Tshering22 @Indrani @ExtraOdinary @DRAY @GURU DUTT @nair and others.
 
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Also DON'T try to make it a Hindu vs Muslim issue. This is a Civilized vs Criminal Jihadi issue.

From all that you have written, I would like to pick up this point and highlight it. It should be looked in this lines.....and it squarely applies on those opposing this too
 
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Do research before posting something, Modi came to power in June2014, I heard this term first in 2010, that too in Kerala, Probably that time Modi himself may not have been aware of this term.....

On the topic of "Love Jihad"

I can understand the feeling of those who hate to hear such words, and i can understand the sentiments associated with this word. But There is a reason behind that.

This was the idea of some fanatics and extremists organisation such as NDF, started this programme 3, 4 years back. Some how this news and its name got leaked and got highlighted in kerala, and there was a counter propaganda by Hindu organisations, and because of its publicity and awareness this project was dropped.

When it comes to usage of words, You need to blame it on to those idiots who used this word for such stupid agenda. The awareness and education should be given to those who come up with such ideas.

I have no idea how right or wrong is this recent accusation, so cant comment on it.....
Right now this is being created to attack Muslims and Islam they are trying to create another Gujarat type incident
 
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Right now this is being created to attack Muslims and Islam they are trying to create another Gujarat type incident

I Know it is being off topic and i am not expecting an answer as i never got it in pdf, but can you answer me this simple question???

What caused Gujarat Riots????
 
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From all that you have written, I would like to pick up this point and highlight it. It should be looked in this lines.....and it squarely applies on those opposing this too
My point exactly. As for the Gujarat thing, sir, let's not entertain Zarvi with a dead horse :D
 
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