Derogatory Terms Associated With Islam

[syedali73]

What is this 'love Jihad'? This is a derogatory term coined by religiously fanatic Hindu party BJP; why is this being allowed to be tagged with each and every thread, which has something to do with conversion (force or not is another issue)? The same term has also been used previously in threads on teen sex scandal in UK etc.

1. Social issues associated with two partners following different religions are very obvious, especially in non-Eurpean societies where people prefer to live in close association with their families. It is not unnatural for one partner to ask the other to convert to his/her religion (which religion is not my point of concern) purely to avoid social consequences. Force conversion has little (or nothing) to do with the religion but of macho behavior of men in male-dominated societies. It is not about a particular religion i.e. Islam, for I am 100% sure that a person's demand from his wife to convert to 'his' religion would still be there had he had converted to Christianity, or Budhism or any other religion. Unfortunately, it is being associated with Islam, which is highest degree of intellectual dishonesty.

2. Now the use of love Jihad term in the case of sexual exploitation of teens in the UK (or elsewhere). If those who got themselves involved into those lustful actions were practicing Muslims, they would have never got involved in the first place. In the Islamic Shariah, the sentence for the Zina (sex outside marriage) is severe than the sentence for a murder. The existence of such a severe punishment (80 lashes to unmarried, and stone-to-death to married male or female) is a proof in itself that Islam discourages its followers to get indulged into actions such as extra-marital relationships let alone heinous crimes such as rape.

How on earth can Jihad, which is among the noblest deeds in Islam, be associated with filthy things such as force-conversion and rape? What if we use terms as Love Chanakya or Love Hindutva for Hindus involved in rape and/or molestation, which are a lot by the way? Obviously it would not be acceptable. Therefore I request here to kindly discuss this matter at management level and impose a ban on the use of certain derogatory terms associated with Islam for they have nothing to do with Islam or any other religion for that matter.

 

[trident2010]

The “Love Jihad” – by Stephen Brown

To the “hard jihad” of Muslim terrorism and the non-violent, “stealth jihad” challenging Western societies, the oxymoron “love jihad” can now be added. But this latest form of Islamist aggression has nothing to do with love but rather, like its soulmates, with hatred for the infidel and women.

The love jihad’s modus operandi involves a heartless strategy of luring vulnerable girls and young women to convert to Islam by feigned love and promises of marriage. But instead of marital bliss, the girls unwittingly trapped in its deceitful web usually wind up in the hands of Muslim fundamentalist organizations.
The south-western state of Kerela in India is the latest place where this perverse practice has raised its ugly head. Authorities in this state of 32 million are holding in jail two young Muslim men who stand accused of “luring” two non-Muslim university students with promises of marriage “for the purpose of conversion.”
In court, both students testified the two men “trapped” them and forced them into converting. One told the court she fell in love with one of the men, a senior student at her college, and eloped with him. But instead of the expected marriage, she and the other woman were taken to a Muslim center where they were subjected to Islamic extremist propaganda.
The case has created such concern that Kerela’s High Court ordered the police to investigate the organization responsible for the conversions, the Campus Front, which serves as the student wing of the Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Popular Front of India. It is believed more than 4,000 Hindu and Christian young women in Kerela have converted to Islam in the last six months.
The Times of India reports that Kerela’s Hindu and Christian religious authorities are so alarmed at this development that they are cooperating to “combat the ‘social evil’ which. . .is hitting their respective communities hard.” It is suspected that college girls and working women are especially targeted.
“It’s shocking but it is happening. Many Christian families are getting affected,” said a member of the Kerala Catholic Bishops Council.
One report states the “jihad Romeos” in Kerela are given cell phones, bikes and fashionable clothes to accomplish their sinister mission. They have two weeks to find a girl of another religion and six months to convert her to Islam. If the girl shows no interest within two weeks, they are to leave her and find another.
For every conversion, the men also receive a monetary reward. The money for the “love jihad” in Kerala is reported to come from “foreign sources.”

If a recruiter does marry his convert, he is encouraged to have four children with her. Some believe this capability to bear offspring is the reason why young women are targeted. With conversion, their reproductive powers are taken away from a competing religion and increase instead the Muslim extremist demographic.
But while the term love jihad may be new, the tactic is already a known one. In the 1990s, Sikhs in England believed young women in their community were being targeted for conversion. Young Muslim men looking for prey were even thought to have attended parties for young Sikhs, while pretending to be Sikhs themselves.
Sometimes, however, the jihad Romeos in England used a more brutal approach. A story in the Daily Mail two years ago stated that police were targeting such Muslim extremists and working with universities against “aggressive conversions.” These involved Hindu and Sikh girls being beaten up and terrorized by the Muslim men they were dating until they converted.
The Hindu Forum of Britain, the story says, claimed hundreds of Sikh and Hindu girls were victims of such vicious intimidation. Some even had to leave their university to escape their tormentors.
“Some girls are petrified because they are constantly being phoned up, having their door knocked on,” a Hindu Forum member said at the time.
But the best evidence that this form of jihad has been in operation for some time comes from a former Muslim extremist, who converted to Christianity. In the book, Why We Left Islam, a compilation of testimonies by former Muslims who left their faith, the unidentified apostate gives a powerful account of his days as a jihad Romeo in Egypt who targeted Coptic Christian girls.
Like in Kerela, the former Muslim testifies that money was paid for conversions and that it came from outside the country. And the higher the educational and social status of the victim’s family, the more money the jihad Romeo received.
Unlike in India though, the recruiters would parade the converted girl through the streets, playing music and waving flags, while yelling “Allah Akbar.” The goal, he said, was to humiliate the Christians, especially the men, and dishonor their families in a country where the women are the family’s honor. But such parades were banned in 1985.
All kinds of tricks, he writes, were used to convert the girls. From outright expressions of love and attending their churches to trapping them in moral scandals, everything was fair game. In this, the extremists were often helped by young Muslim women who identified likely targets, encouraged the Christian girl in the “relationship,” and would even help set up the morally compromising situations.
While ruining the lives of others, the former Muslim states he thought he was serving his religion, since Muslims “were in a perpetual war with the ‘filthy infidels’.” He lived for three years with one woman he had converted, tormenting her mercilessly, while converting seven other Christian women during that time.
In essence, the love jihad is a form of demographic aggression. Like the “stealth jihad”, which employs political activism to achieve Islamist aims in Western societies, it employs deception and is viewed as a useful tactic in bringing about Islamic world domination. That, however, is of little solace to the many precious young women whose lives it has destroyed.



The “Love Jihad” – by Stephen Brown | FrontPage Magazine

 

[syedali73]

Who is Stephen Brown and what is FrontPage Magazine tells it all.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

It exists. You may want to rename it, but the specific term is being used. Like Saffron terror. This is perception - nothing to do with a deliberate conspiracy to malign Islam. Islam khatre main nahi hain.

Shooter alleges Love Jihad, Centre seeks report from Jharkhand govt : East, News - India Today
Ministry Of Home Affairs asks Jharkhand for ‘love jihad’ report | The Asian Age

There are miscreants who are doing this - not all Muslims, but there are bad apples.

 

[TankMan]

The “Love Jihad” – by Stephen Brown

To the “hard jihad” of Muslim terrorism and the non-violent, “stealth jihad” challenging Western societies, the oxymoron “love jihad” can now be added. But this latest form of Islamist aggression has nothing to do with love but rather, like its soulmates, with hatred for the infidel and women.

The love jihad’s modus operandi involves a heartless strategy of luring vulnerable girls and young women to convert to Islam by feigned love and promises of marriage. But instead of marital bliss, the girls unwittingly trapped in its deceitful web usually wind up in the hands of Muslim fundamentalist organizations.
The south-western state of Kerela in India is the latest place where this perverse practice has raised its ugly head. Authorities in this state of 32 million are holding in jail two young Muslim men who stand accused of “luring” two non-Muslim university students with promises of marriage “for the purpose of conversion.”
In court, both students testified the two men “trapped” them and forced them into converting. One told the court she fell in love with one of the men, a senior student at her college, and eloped with him. But instead of the expected marriage, she and the other woman were taken to a Muslim center where they were subjected to Islamic extremist propaganda.
The case has created such concern that Kerela’s High Court ordered the police to investigate the organization responsible for the conversions, the Campus Front, which serves as the student wing of the Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Popular Front of India. It is believed more than 4,000 Hindu and Christian young women in Kerela have converted to Islam in the last six months.
The Times of India reports that Kerela’s Hindu and Christian religious authorities are so alarmed at this development that they are cooperating to “combat the ‘social evil’ which. . .is hitting their respective communities hard.” It is suspected that college girls and working women are especially targeted.
“It’s shocking but it is happening. Many Christian families are getting affected,” said a member of the Kerala Catholic Bishops Council.
One report states the “jihad Romeos” in Kerela are given cell phones, bikes and fashionable clothes to accomplish their sinister mission. They have two weeks to find a girl of another religion and six months to convert her to Islam. If the girl shows no interest within two weeks, they are to leave her and find another.
For every conversion, the men also receive a monetary reward. The money for the “love jihad” in Kerala is reported to come from “foreign sources.”

If a recruiter does marry his convert, he is encouraged to have four children with her. Some believe this capability to bear offspring is the reason why young women are targeted. With conversion, their reproductive powers are taken away from a competing religion and increase instead the Muslim extremist demographic.
But while the term love jihad may be new, the tactic is already a known one. In the 1990s, Sikhs in England believed young women in their community were being targeted for conversion. Young Muslim men looking for prey were even thought to have attended parties for young Sikhs, while pretending to be Sikhs themselves.
Sometimes, however, the jihad Romeos in England used a more brutal approach. A story in the Daily Mail two years ago stated that police were targeting such Muslim extremists and working with universities against “aggressive conversions.” These involved Hindu and Sikh girls being beaten up and terrorized by the Muslim men they were dating until they converted.
The Hindu Forum of Britain, the story says, claimed hundreds of Sikh and Hindu girls were victims of such vicious intimidation. Some even had to leave their university to escape their tormentors.
“Some girls are petrified because they are constantly being phoned up, having their door knocked on,” a Hindu Forum member said at the time.
But the best evidence that this form of jihad has been in operation for some time comes from a former Muslim extremist, who converted to Christianity. In the book, Why We Left Islam, a compilation of testimonies by former Muslims who left their faith, the unidentified apostate gives a powerful account of his days as a jihad Romeo in Egypt who targeted Coptic Christian girls.
Like in Kerela, the former Muslim testifies that money was paid for conversions and that it came from outside the country. And the higher the educational and social status of the victim’s family, the more money the jihad Romeo received.
Unlike in India though, the recruiters would parade the converted girl through the streets, playing music and waving flags, while yelling “Allah Akbar.” The goal, he said, was to humiliate the Christians, especially the men, and dishonor their families in a country where the women are the family’s honor. But such parades were banned in 1985.
All kinds of tricks, he writes, were used to convert the girls. From outright expressions of love and attending their churches to trapping them in moral scandals, everything was fair game. In this, the extremists were often helped by young Muslim women who identified likely targets, encouraged the Christian girl in the “relationship,” and would even help set up the morally compromising situations.
While ruining the lives of others, the former Muslim states he thought he was serving his religion, since Muslims “were in a perpetual war with the ‘filthy infidels’.” He lived for three years with one woman he had converted, tormenting her mercilessly, while converting seven other Christian women during that time.
In essence, the love jihad is a form of demographic aggression. Like the “stealth jihad”, which employs political activism to achieve Islamist aims in Western societies, it employs deception and is viewed as a useful tactic in bringing about Islamic world domination. That, however, is of little solace to the many precious young women whose lives it has destroyed.


The “Love Jihad” – by Stephen Brown | FrontPage Magazine

The whole "love Jihad" article is bull because according to it, Islam=Hatred for non muslims + women and Jihad=Damage non-muslims.

To the “hard jihad” of Muslim terrorism and the non-violent, “stealth jihad” challenging Western societies, the oxymoron “love jihad” can now be added. But this latest form of Islamist aggression has nothing to do with love but rather, like its soulmates, with hatred for the infidel and women.

This paragraph tells me all I need to know about the author, though I still wasted my time reading the rest of the article. That is one hateful and paranoid article which tells us that all muslims ever do is plan to destroy your precious "modern civilization" and ruin other people's lives.

Jihad means a struggle. It could be a struggle against oppression/invasion (Violent Jihad) or a struggle against an addiction or one's own wishes for sin or even a struggle against poverty. If someone forces a woman, that's not Jihad. That's sin. If someone fights his urge to force a woman, that's Jihad.
If someone gives charity, that's Jihad.
Murdering innocent people is not Jihad, Its murder.

What happens nowadays is that if some non muslim rapes or forces someone, he's a rapist and criminal and has nothing to do with the whole of Christianity or Atheism or Hinduism . But if some muslim does it, its "Love Jihad" and he suddenly represents all the Muslims in the world. That is wrong,so please stop that if you're so advanced and modern

 

[syedali73]

The whole "love Jihad" article is bull because according to it, Islam=Hatred for non muslims + women and Jihad=Damage non-muslims.



This paragraph tells me all I need to know about the author, though I still wasted my time reading the rest of the article. That is one hateful and paranoid article which tells us that all muslims ever do is plan to destroy your precious "modern civilization" and ruin other people's lives.

Jihad means a struggle. It could be a struggle against oppression/invasion (Violent Jihad) or a struggle against an addiction or one's own wishes for sin or even a struggle against poverty. If someone forces a woman, that's not Jihad. That's sin. If someone fights his urge to force a woman, that's Jihad.
If someone gives charity, that's Jihad.
Murdering innocent people is not Jihad, Its murder.

What happens nowadays is that if some non muslim rapes or forces someone, he's a rapist and criminal and has nothing to do with the whole of Christianity or Atheism or Hinduism . But if some muslim does it, its "Love Jihad" and he suddenly represents all the Muslims in the world. That is wrong,so please stop that if you're so advanced and modern

"What happens nowadays is that if some non muslim rapes or forces someone, he's a rapist and criminal and has nothing to do with the whole of Christianity or Atheism or Hinduism . But if some muslim does it, its "Love Jihad" and he suddenly represents all the Muslims in the world. That is wrong,so please stop that if you're so advanced and modern".

I wont be able to sum up things as comprehensively and elegantly as you did in the last paragraph. That is the whole point and I wish, in-fact hope that management team will look into this and consider banning derogatory terms (such as love Jihad), which are used to associate all sorts of moral, social, and religious crimes with Islam.

 

[Contrarian]

The whole "love Jihad" article is bull because according to it, Islam=Hatred for non muslims + women and Jihad=Damage non-muslims.

This paragraph tells me all I need to know about the author, though I still wasted my time reading the rest of the article. That is one hateful and paranoid article which tells us that all muslims ever do is plan to destroy your precious "modern civilization" and ruin other people's lives.

Jihad means a struggle. It could be a struggle against oppression/invasion (Violent Jihad) or a struggle against an addiction or one's own wishes for sin or even a struggle against poverty. If someone forces a woman, that's not Jihad. That's sin. If someone fights his urge to force a woman, that's Jihad.
If someone gives charity, that's Jihad.
Murdering innocent people is not Jihad, Its murder.

What happens nowadays is that if some non muslim rapes or forces someone, he's a rapist and criminal and has nothing to do with the whole of Christianity or Atheism or Hinduism . But if some muslim does it, its "Love Jihad" and he suddenly represents all the Muslims in the world. That is wrong,so please stop that if you're so advanced and modern

All this is your intepretation.

Ask the Taliban, they proudly proclaim that when one Muslim kills and punishes the woman its Islamic.
Ask LeT, then one of their fighters bombs a crowded market its jihad.

1. All of them, have Islamic scholars/Ulema who back them in their jihad - whether it be exploding in a market or killing a little girl or punishing women who dont wear a burka.

2.. When one of their fighters explodes in a hospital, they yell allahu akbar. Hindus, Budhists and Christians dont yell - 'for the glory of Christ' or 'for Bhagwan' or some such before doing what they do. Neither do we have a surprisingly large number of Hindu, Budhist or Christian priests telling us that its okay to kill others for 'x/y/z' reasons under the 'laws of god'.

The problem is with 'Muslims' or the 'right kind of Muslims' or 'wrong kind of Muslims' or 'true meaning of Islam' or 'false meaning of Islam'. All this is your headache.

Don't ask the world to not call a spade a spade. When the Norwegian killer Breivik was arrested, he was called a Christian supremacist. However you can see no Christian priest condoned his action, there are no priests asking for holy war against non-Christians. Thats all coming from people of one religion.

Maybe you ought to focus on what your fellow Muslims(of all kinds) do, before asking others to stop labeling?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Don't ask the world to not call a spade a spade. When the Norwegian killer Breivik was arrested, he was called a Christian supremacist. However you can see no Christian priest condoned his action, there are no priests asking for holy war against non-Christians. Thats all coming from people of one religion.

My point exactly. Most decent people (that most definitely includes Muslims) are deeply outraged by this phenomenon than hurts not only their faith but also spoils the sanctity of marriage. But shutting eyes and just wishing the problem to go away is not the solution.

On the other hand it will be great if some believer takes offense and goes against the clerics/clique who encourage such conversions by deceit. And it is an open secret that it exists. The outrage is natural but we must channel it properly.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

PDF = hinduvta extremist forum..

@WebMaster. You gave me a warnin for this signature .. Yet you can't do ... When "love jihad",muslim terrorists,sex jihadis etc etc threads are popping on this forum like hell...

 

[Falcon29]

PDF = hinduvta extremist forum..

@WebMaster. You gave me a warnin for this signature .. Yet you can't do ... When "love jihad",muslim terrorists,sex jihadis etc etc threads are popping on this forum like hell...

I agree with you, every 15 minutes another propaganda thread like that emerges. It is for one purpose, to bash all Muslims even though their own 'reports' are false.

@WebMaster needs to assign a mod who will look out for this ME section to make sure no threads appear like that.

 

[EagleEyes]

There is no such thing as Love Jihad, will be taking actions again multiple ID trolls.

 

[Zarvan]

Sir before that please change my name to ASSASSIN ZARVAN I have requested you several times

 

[EagleEyes]

Sir before that please change my name to ASSASSIN ZARVAN I have requested you several times

Your username is fine as it is.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

From what I know there is three types of Jihad, spiritual, internal, and external. Spiritual jihad is always internal and deals between good, bad, God, and the individual. Internal jihad deals with just the good and bad mentally, the outcome can be external. External jihad is mainly defensive of individual and deals between good and bad, rarely spiritual.

Also, is Jihad specifically for Muslims or universally human nature? Or am I being too vague?

 

[Mugwop]

There is no such thing as Love Jihad, will be taking actions again multiple ID trolls.

What if they are using Tor?