CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[mosu]

Congratulations brothers

 

[cirr]

Status as of 31.12.2015

Happy New Year to All！！！

I am 100% certain that the Chinese military industry will bring us more good news and surprises in 2016。

 

[RISING SUN]

So its a one thing where India and China stands equal... Because right now both operates 1 aircraft carrier?? Right?

Sorry buddy, but we have two operational Carriers right now. One Vikrant class being built up and Vishal class in final stage of design freeze.

 

[applesauce]

Sorry buddy, but we have two operational Carriers right now. One Vikrant class being built up and Vishal class in final stage of design freeze.

indeed, india is ahead, with 2 operational carriers, and more experience in operating them than china.

viraat is to be decommissioned early 2016 however, and vikrant isnt due to be in service until 2018, so in 2018 both navies may be operating two carriers, and in process of obtaining a third one, though i expect the chinese program to be larger. and don't forget the escort force, from what we can see china is far ahead in that game.

 

[terranMarine]

If China is indeed starting the construction of Type 002 (early) this year we will have 3 operational carriers by 2021 and operating 30 modern destroyers. Something to look forward to in the coming 5 years.

 

[sheik]

Sorry buddy, but we have two operational Carriers right now. One Vikrant class being built up and Vishal class in final stage of design freeze.

India is always ahead. Congratulations!

 

[neytirilover]

At the dawn of the new year, trusted and validated sources on Chinese forums have unveiled information about the commencement of construction of a third aircraft carrier in Shanghai JiangNan Shipyards (Changxin Island). So far the detailed design is fully completed and drawings are being sent to the shipyard, the shipyard is now ordering materials and commencing pre-construction preps. The construction of blocks of the hull will commence indoors first and within two years blocks will be lifted to the dry dock to be concatenated.

It is said that the carrier will be concatenated in this dry dock after the current civilian ship occupying the dock is launched.

The source also stated, that the carrier will have steam-turbine powered 4-shaft propulsion with a total propulsion power of a little less than 240000 total shaft horsepower. The carrier will be considerably larger than the current Type 001/001A, it has a standard displacement of 60000-70000 tons and a fully loaded displacement of less than 80000 tons. The carrier is slightly smaller than Kitty Hawk, while it is comparable to the then so called "Super-carrier" Forrestal Class Aircraft Carrier (60000t standard, 75000t full).

It is expected to carrier around 48 heavy naval fighter aircraft, probably variants of J-15 or even future 4th/5th gen naval fighters, along with other fixed wing aircraft and helicopters. It is much expected that a fixed wing AWACS platform would be matured by the time the first Type 002 aircraft carrier is commissioned.

Much dispute is there around the unveiled information by the same source claiming only two steam catapult will be installed on Type 002 aircraft carrier, due to limitations in power output and size of the catapult itself. The source also admitted that confidence on this piece of information (meaning the number of catapult to be installed) is not as robust. Possibilities exist that three or four steam catapults will be installed.

What's clear is that steam catapult will be installed on Type 002. Based on current information, it appears that the design of Type 002 will be somewhat similar to the French PA2 design.

Also, a matching design example in published Chinese Research Paper is also found:

This design shows technological influence from Type 001A and matches the description of the trusted source.

Based on an estimation of construction starting mid 2016 and a reasonable progress, the ship can be launched circa 2019, commission will take place circa 2021, combat capability will probably take shape after 2022~2023.

 

[nang2]

Oh my, a lot of information. Thx, bro

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Type 002 will be a prelude for the Type 003.

 

[Beidou2020]

Type 003 is the baby I'm looking forward to. They are modern day carriers.

CGB:
1 x type 003 nuclear aircraft carrier
3 x type 055 destroyers
3 x type 057 frigates
2 x type 095 nuclear attack submarines
1 x type 901 replenishment ship

 

[cirr]

The Navy is yet to put its signature on the dotted line。

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Type 003 is the baby I'm looking forward to. They are modern day carriers.

CGB:
1 x type 003 nuclear aircraft carrier
3 x type 055 destroyers
3 x type 057 frigates
2 x type 095 nuclear attack submarines
1 x type 901 replenishment ship

Yeah, the Type 003 is going to be designed by the same team who designed the Type 002.

The Type 001A and the Type 002 were designed by two different teams, so the Type 001A won't hinder the development of the Type 002/003.

The Type 003 should be a nuclear one that fully displaces around 110,000 metric tons, also with four fully functional EMALS catapults; two at the bow and two at the angled flight deck.

The EMALS development has just entered into a groundbreaking stage, and the design will soon become finalized.

Now, the only problem for China is the nuclear reactor. China needs a true fourth generation nuclear reactor that is even more powerful than the A1B reactor used by the CVN-78. Although China now has become the first country in the world to fully master the civilian 4th gen reactor, but we just need more time to navalize/miniaturize the civilian one in order to fit into the tightly designed aircraft carrier.

 

[Beast]

Yeah, the Type 003 is going to be designed by the same team who designed the Type 002.

The Type 001A and the Type 002 were designed by two different teams, so the Type 001A won't hinder the development of the Type 002/003.

The Type 003 should be a nuclear one that fully displaces around 110,000 metric tons, also with four fully functional EMALS catapults; two at the bow and two at the angled flight deck.

The EMALS development has just entered into a groundbreaking stage, and the design will soon become finalized.

Now, the only problem for China is the nuclear reactor. China needs a true fourth generation nuclear reactor that is even more powerful than the A1B reactor used by the CVN-78. Although China now has become the first country in the world to fully master the civilian 4th gen reactor, but we just need more time to navalize/miniaturize the civilian one in order to fit into the tightly designed aircraft carrier.

Nuclear power reactor is over rated. Even you have unlimited range, you still need replenish ammo, aviation fuel and food. Still unable to eliminate replenishment ,a dangerous and vulnerable process at sea.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Nuclear power reactor is over rated. Even you have unlimited range, you still need replenish ammo, aviation fuel and food. Still unable to eliminate replenishment ,a dangerous and vulnerable process at sea.

We are talking about a new generation super nuclear reactor that totally outclasses the A4W, even superior to the A1B.

Just look at France, they scaled up their submarine reactor for their CVN, but it ended up as a mess. The Charles de Gaulle CVN cannot even hit the benchmark speed of 30 knots.

Also, the replenishment ships can save a lot of the space of the carrier fuel for the aircraft fuel and other logistic supplies.

 

[neytirilover]

The Navy is yet to put its signature on the dotted line。

That's almost a done deal.