Cold Start? Mutually Assured Destruction by Lt. Gen (R) Tariq Khan

[The Eagle]

What do you mean "sending men here." Kashmir is our territory. It's our business to be here. There was decades of peace in Kashmir before Pak started sending terrorists into Kashmir.

Check your post that I quoted here firstly.

Nope. Pakistan has no money to rebuild entire cities. Indian populace will be fine even if Russia nukes India. Only the magnitude of the casualties will be different, but the population will survive comfortably, the nuked areas will be cleaned and rebuilt.

Example: This is Hiroshima's ground zero. The place where the nuke hit.

Even if Russia nukes every city in the West tomorrow, it won't be an existential threat because the Russians don't have an army that can follow up after the nuclear exchange.

In the India-Pak context, India will have an army that can follow up after a nuclear exchange. That's why India is an existential threat to Pakistan.

Underestimating.... Will rebuild for as much as left and also, there are Muslims in other countries so we are not going to be wiped out....... See the damage at your end as well..... Don't overestimate.....

 

[randomradio]

Check your post that I quoted here firstly.

You have to be a bit more clear about that.

Underestimating.... Will rebuild for as much as left and also, there are Muslims in other countries so we are not going to be wiped out....... See the damage at your end as well..... Don't overestimate.....

Incorrect. Any money that the Muslim world will send to Pakistan will be used by the central govt in India.

I don't think you have understood what will happen if India and Pak go to full scale war.
"India is an existential threat to Pakistan."

Why will GoI allow Pak to be rebuilt before India is?

 

[The Eagle]

You have to be a bit more clear about that.

That is the issue here that you are replying for the mere purpose to reply but not reading to understand. Check your post in this thread that I quoted first time..... Pay some attention rather than drowned in nationalism.

Incorrect. Any money that the Muslim world will send to Pakistan will be used by the central govt in India.

I don't think you have understood what will happen if India and Pak go to full scale war.
"India is an existential threat to Pakistan."

Why will GoI allow Pak to be rebuilt before India is?

Selective reading again.......... BTW, which Government of India or India........ After N War
....... And Muslim world will give it to India...... I mean, that is going to cost a lot to start here by addressing these issues..... Good luck then....

Regards,

 

[randomradio]

That is the issue here that you are replying for the mere purpose to reply but not reading to understand. Check your post in this thread that I quoted first time..... Pay some attention rather than drowned in nationalism.

Haha. You need to string sentences properly if you want the other person to understand. You quoted my post about casualties in Kashmir.

Selective reading again.......... BTW, which Government of India or India........ After N War
....... And Muslim world will give it to India...... I mean, that is going to cost a lot to start here by addressing these issues..... Good luck then....

Regards,

Yes, good luck if you think the Sunderji Doctrine won't play out in this situation. It looks like you don't know much about what the IA has in store for Pakistan in case of a full scale war. It's open source, I would suggest reading up about it.

 

[The Eagle]

Haha. You need to string sentences properly if you want the other person to understand. You quoted my post about casualties in Kashmir.

Mostly uses cellphone... however, remember this.... (following of your post). See, how difficult time you are having to keep your men in IoK that yourself verified even by way of blaming but still, you verified how things are happening in IoK against your Army and yet, you are looking at to have your men in Pakistan......... I am sure you would have worked everything to analyse the aftermath for your men in Pakistan....

We apparently have 1.2 million men in Kashmir alone according to both your politicians and media. How difficult is it to have 1 million in Pakistan?

Yes, good luck if you think the Sunderji Doctrine won't play out in this situation. It looks like you don't know much about what the IA has in store for Pakistan in case of a full scale war. It's open source, I would suggest reading up about it.

Thanks as we do have our own eye to see things though there is no need for us to get inspired by Indian Media reports/open source and we believe our own insight pretty much than such so-called information turned propaganda.

 

[Zarvan]

Indians are blinded by there patriotism so I won't be surprised if Indian tries to carry out some sort of attack but they will fail miserably

 

[khanmubashir]

Don't brings mods in to cover up your ignorance. Google demonetization and Kashmir protests, you will have your answer.



Incorrect. Russia is no longer an existential threat because it no longer has an army capable of destroying the West.

Nukes are only a deterrence, what destroys the world is armies. A nuke is only a temporary measure for stopping economic growth.



What do you mean "sending men here." Kashmir is our territory. It's our business to be here. There was decades of peace in Kashmir before Pak started sending terrorists into Kashmir.



Nope. Pakistan has no money to rebuild entire cities. Indian populace will be fine even if Russia nukes India. Only the magnitude of the casualties will be different, but the population will survive comfortably, the nuked areas will be cleaned and rebuilt.

Example: This is Hiroshima's ground zero. The place where the nuke hit.

Even if Russia nukes every city in the West tomorrow, it won't be an existential threat because the Russians don't have an army that can follow up after the nuclear exchange.

In the India-Pak context, India will have an army that can follow up after a nuclear exchange. That's why India is an existential threat to Pakistan.

so ur army is nuke proof lol we will also b targeting ur forces and remeber ur forces r like 2.some times bigger then us not 4-6 x that it would b a walk over 4 u no
nukes r recognized global existential threat as for survivors % wise pak has much chances of of having more survivors as our density /km is lower and big cities r less and smaller 1 hold lesser chance of being nuked so loses will b lesser while more of indian population is towards more # of big cities compared 2 us which would b nuked
so we can rebuild 2 if u think u can to match ur rhetoric russian nukes mad was existential threat 2 west and whole world in cold war
entire era was based on mad doctrine can u give links of such articles which claim other wise

Don't brings mods in to cover up your ignorance. Google demonetization and Kashmir protests, you will have your answer.



Incorrect. Russia is no longer an existential threat because it no longer has an army capable of destroying the West.

Nukes are only a deterrence, what destroys the world is armies. A nuke is only a temporary measure for stopping economic growth.



What do you mean "sending men here." Kashmir is our territory. It's our business to be here. There was decades of peace in Kashmir before Pak started sending terrorists into Kashmir.



Nope. Pakistan has no money to rebuild entire cities. Indian populace will be fine even if Russia nukes India. Only the magnitude of the casualties will be different, but the population will survive comfortably, the nuked areas will be cleaned and rebuilt.

Example: This is Hiroshima's ground zero. The place where the nuke hit.

Even if Russia nukes every city in the West tomorrow, it won't be an existential threat because the Russians don't have an army that can follow up after the nuclear exchange.

In the India-Pak context, India will have an army that can follow up after a nuclear exchange. That's why India is an existential threat to Pakistan.

and all ur money stock exchange worth would b wipped in a suposed nuclear war only money kept in foreign lands would b availabe does goi keep big assets in outside world NO if u think nri will come and rebuild u same chances is of nrps for pak and we who servive can even 2 some extent rely on muslim world communities 4 assistance ad u r forgeting china they may jump in 2 claim whats left of u
india is as much existential threat 2 pak as china is 2 india which isnt much when usa and ussr cant hold small countries like afg iraq 4 long ur claims r hilarious and after nulcear war r stupadic pak and india r not only entites in this region we beat ur existential threat drum 2 world same way u beat of chinese threat 2 justify ur 1st nuclear test 2 developing icbms as every 1 needs some justification 4 what he is doing

 

[randomradio]

Mostly uses cellphone... however, remember this.... (following of your post). See, how difficult time you are having to keep your men in IoK that yourself verified even by way of blaming but still, you verified how things are happening in IoK against your Army and yet, you are looking at to have your men in Pakistan......... I am sure you would have worked everything to analyse the aftermath for your men in Pakistan....

There is no difficulty in keeping men in Kashmir. We have men all along the Himalayan border. In some ways, the NE borders are even harsher.

We can easily have men in Pakistan too, during war. You see, unlike in Kashmir, where the people are our own, in Pakistan, everybody is an enemy. So it will get much easier.

Plus, since your govt wants to go nuclear, it would make even the civilians a target of the IA. So we will be bombing your cities, clearing out population centers, forcing populations out of the country or into refugee camps and so on.

A nuclear war is extremely destabilizing for the country that is being invaded. That's why India is an existential threat.

Thanks as we do have our own eye to see things though there is no need for us to get inspired by Indian Media reports/open source and we believe our own insight pretty much than such so-called information turned propaganda.

What are you talking about? Sunderji Doctrine is the IA's doctrine for dealing with Pakistan. It's not a media report or propaganda. It calls for militarily splitting Pakistan into a North and South and cut off the supply lines between the two regions.

so ur army is nuke proof lol we will also b targeting ur forces and remeber ur forces r like 2.some times bigger then us not 4-6 x that it would b a walk over 4 u no
nukes r recognized global existential threat as for survivors % wise pak has much chances of of having more survivors as our density /km is lower and big cities r less and smaller 1 hold lesser chance of being nuked so loses will b lesser while more of indian population is towards more # of big cities compared 2 us which would b nuked
so we can rebuild 2 if u think u can to match ur rhetoric russian nukes mad was existential threat 2 west and whole world in cold war
entire era was based on mad doctrine can u give links of such articles which claim other wise

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

and all ur money stock exchange worth would b wipped in a suposed nuclear war only money kept in foreign lands would b availabe does goi keep big assets in outside world NO if u think nri will come and rebuild u same chances is of nrps for pak and we who servive can even 2 some extent rely on muslim world communities 4 assistance ad u r forgeting china they may jump in 2 claim whats left of u
india is as much existential threat 2 pak as china is 2 india which isnt much when usa and ussr cant hold small countries like afg iraq 4 long ur claims r hilarious and after nulcear war r stupadic pak and india r not only entites in this region we beat ur existential threat drum 2 world same way u beat of chinese threat 2 justify ur 1st nuclear test 2 developing icbms as every 1 needs some justification 4 what he is doing

In case of a nuclear attack, the stock exchange will close. Trading will be suspended. And we have underground data centers that stores all the stock related information and it is updated every day.

Don't worry about us, we are quite capable when it comes to surviving nuclear attacks. Even our states have started building underground bunkers for data protection and protection of VIPs.
http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/ind...jor-cities-for-protection-against-wmds-352945

A significant chunk of Delhi's metro system is also underground.
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/press_reldetails.aspx?id=s045vnclU5TvIlld

The question is what will you do once our army starts walking into Pakistan after nuclear strikes.

 

[The Eagle]

There is no difficulty in keeping men in Kashmir. We have men all along the Himalayan border. In some ways, the NE borders are even harsher.

We can easily have men in Pakistan too, during war. You see, unlike in Kashmir, where the people are our own, in Pakistan, everybody is an enemy. So it will get much easier.

Plus, since your govt wants to go nuclear, it would make even the civilians a target of the IA. So we will be bombing your cities, clearing out population centers, forcing populations out of the country or into refugee camps and so on.

A nuclear war is extremely destabilizing for the country that is being invaded. That's why India is an existential threat.



What are you talking about? Sunderji Doctrine is the IA's doctrine for dealing with Pakistan. It's not a media report or propaganda. It calls for militarily splitting Pakistan into a North and South and cut off the supply lines between the two regions.

I am really scared that might Indian Army has already divided us in two, survived the war, wiped off Pakistan from the Map, no Pakistanis left alive...... I mean, what we were doing when all that was happening like we were sitting and waiting to die like this and did nothing..... I don't know how to make you think being realistic.... Well, it takes 5 or so posts to remind you about your stance then how should I continue with further arguments in this subject....... Do let us know when you brought your men here..... Till then, keep planning man.... None fought the war on keyboard yet we are facing the great cyber force here that most of them wouldn't be around during war but migrating the country in fear... Why such exception for India that your populace will be staying in India too and what make you think of that.... Give it rest man and take a break until War. God, you have merely bombed us, split us and what not....

Let me you tell, the most keyboard General and Field Marshall will be running for the lives once such hell unleashed and when push comes to shove, will make sure to make it a hell for the one that thought to enter here.

You have enemies here but easy to keep your men..... What are you up to......

You do not attack and we are at peace but once you try to cross the line, it is upto other party how it is going to respond and make you pay. NAMO and those strategist can keep planning to split us further but the time has gone however, there are many factions in India fighting for separation and independence so firstly pay attention to in-house issues then dream of splitting us. These so-called strategies and survival games are only attractive on paper or in theories but once the time came, there wouldn't be any chance to calculate and claim so better not wish to as such.

Thanks for your time and till then, take care,

Regards,

 

[khanmubashir]

There is no difficulty in keeping men in Kashmir. We have men all along the Himalayan border. In some ways, the NE borders are even harsher.

We can easily have men in Pakistan too,
during war. You see, unlike in Kashmir,
where the people are our own, in Pakistan, everybody is an enemy. So it will get much easier.

Plus, since your govt wants to go nuclear, it would make even the civilians a target of the IA. So we will be bombing your cities, clearing out population centers, forcing populations out of the country or into refugee camps and so on.

A nuclear war is extremely destabilizing for the country that is being invaded. That's why India is an existential threat.



What are you talking about? Sunderji Doctrine is the IA's doctrine for dealing with Pakistan. It's not a media report or propaganda. It calls for militarily splitting Pakistan into a North and South and cut off the supply lines between the two regions.



http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/



In case of a nuclear attack, the stock exchange will close. Trading will be suspended. And we have underground data centers that stores all the stock related information and it is updated every day.

Don't worry about us, we are quite capable when it comes to surviving nuclear attacks. Even our states have started building underground bunkers for data protection and protection of VIPs.
http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/ind...jor-cities-for-protection-against-wmds-352945

A significant chunk of Delhi's metro system is also underground.
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/press_reldetails.aspx?id=s045vnclU5TvIlld

The question is what will you do once our army starts walking into Pakistan after nuclear strikes.

Now u r just being ilogical with all your real asset destroyed that little bit of data if any servive would b worthless 1&0 and and Indian have no huge under ground data storage we to have underground potential assets like khura salt mines one of deepest and largest in world can b used for some asset preservation but to say u can come out and start doing business again is stupid at and u would ever capacity of few 1000 people underground so would we and if your nuke proof army lol servives it would have to in same scenario fight our army if your can servive nuclear exchange why can't ours if u r relying on ABM they don't work your current capacity is immature and by time your build up we would have developed counter measure for which r more easy to make and serving army if their is should more concerned of saving it's what's left of people then go to war with other and u didn't answer about China u say after nuclear war your army would remain intact stupid thinking and walk in and conquest pak and no one will resist where do u live fif u see his Iraq and Afghans resisted ground invasion after USA decimated them with air bombing and u think u can do this after being hit by 100 nukes and where is China in your calucaltion u think China would let what remains of your military to go and conquer Pak a stupid idea it self and do nothing or your nuke proof army will also conquer em

 

[Areesh]

Nothing will happen if you nuke India. A few cities may get damaged, that's about it. They will get cleaned and rebuilt in a few years. Nuking rivers does nothing, you will kill a few fishes.

@DESERT FIGHTER @Windjammer @HRK @PaklovesTurkiye @Hiptullha

Check these pearls of extreme wisdom in case you missed them .

 

[randomradio]

@DESERT FIGHTER @Windjammer @HRK @PaklovesTurkiye @Hiptullha

Check these pearls of extreme wisdom in case you missed them .

Before:

After:

It's called reconstruction.

I am really scared that might Indian Army has already divided us in two, survived the war, wiped off Pakistan from the Map, no Pakistanis left alive...... I mean, what we were doing when all that was happening like we were sitting and waiting to die like this and did nothing..... I don't know how to make you think being realistic.... Well, it takes 5 or so posts to remind you about your stance then how should I continue with further arguments in this subject....... Do let us know when you brought your men here..... Till then, keep planning man.... None fought the war on keyboard yet we are facing the great cyber force here that most of them wouldn't be around during war but migrating the country in fear... Why such exception for India that your populace will be staying in India too and what make you think of that.... Give it rest man and take a break until War. God, you have merely bombed us, split us and what not....

Let me you tell, the most keyboard General and Field Marshall will be running for the lives once such hell unleashed and when push comes to shove, will make sure to make it a hell for the one that thought to enter here.

You have enemies here but easy to keep your men..... What are you up to......

You do not attack and we are at peace but once you try to cross the line, it is upto other party how it is going to respond and make you pay. NAMO and those strategist can keep planning to split us further but the time has gone however, there are many factions in India fighting for separation and independence so firstly pay attention to in-house issues then dream of splitting us. These so-called strategies and survival games are only attractive on paper or in theories but once the time came, there wouldn't be any chance to calculate and claim so better not wish to as such.

Thanks for your time and till then, take care,

Regards,

Operation Brasstacks.

Now u r just being ilogical with all your real asset destroyed that little bit of data if any servive would b worthless 1&0 and and Indian have no huge under ground data storage we to have underground potential assets like khura salt mines one of deepest and largest in world can b used for some asset preservation but to say u can come out and start doing business again is stupid at and u would ever capacity of few 1000 people underground so would we and if your nuke proof army lol servives it would have to in same scenario fight our army if your can servive nuclear exchange why can't ours if u r relying on ABM they don't work your current capacity is immature and by time your build up we would have developed counter measure for which r more easy to make and serving army if their is should more concerned of saving it's what's left of people then go to war with other and u didn't answer about China u say after nuclear war your army would remain intact stupid thinking and walk in and conquest pak and no one will resist where do u live fif u see his Iraq and Afghans resisted ground invasion after USA decimated them with air bombing and u think u can do this after being hit by 100 nukes and where is China in your calucaltion u think China would let what remains of your military to go and conquer Pak a stupid idea it self and do nothing or your nuke proof army will also conquer em

Quit overestimating nukes.

 

[Areesh]

Before:

It's called reconstruction.

First give toilet to everyone to take a dump in Mumbai only before planning to build whole of it after nuclear attack.

I repeat. Just make sure everyone gets proper toilets in Mumbai only before talking about reconstructing after nuclear attack.

Yo bharatis are so delusional that I am pretty confident that there are some ostrich genes in you guys somewhere.

 

[randomradio]

First give toilet to everyone to take a dump in Mumbai only before planning to build whole of it after nuclear attack.

I repeat. Just make sure everyone gets proper toilets in Mumbai only before talking about reconstructing after nuclear attack.

Yo bharatis are so delusional that I am pretty confident that there are some ostrich genes in you guys somewhere.

This forum needs an age limit, say 13.
@mods

 

[The Eagle]

Operation Brasstacks.

Those exercises will remain exercises..... I am already done with your knowledge and all that nuclear survival that we couldn't but India will and would rebuilt and all..... I am still feeling like my head is spinning... Thanks again for your time. However, may be I am wrong but it is possible that you have been through wrong material to read or some unaware media write-ups. BTW, that picture you posted for rebuilt was nuclear attacked structure or what and I am sure you would like to read about the radioactive material used by Pakistan, the effectiveness, how long it will take to clean nuked area and all that cleaning time etc.....

Regards,