Cold Start? Mutually Assured Destruction by Lt. Gen (R) Tariq Khan

[Mrc]

hindu kush

true to its name

 

[django]

He is talking sense.

Cold start Doctrine has failed and to cover up that failure, Indian Army and GOI keeps bringing up new statements to keep the spirit of war alive and re-assure themselves that they have found a way to win a war with Pakistan.

Isnt it surprising that cold war doctrine sits in bunkers while the blame game of attacks like Uri etc make headlines in India and to cater that a new doctrine, IMAGINARY Surgical strike has been invented.

Fact is, Indian Army and its armour are not capable of a successful CSD. Pakistan Army can absorb the attacks of different indian Pincers through multitude of options and Im not talking about NASR.

Totally concur Sarge, their army is a clumsy lumbering elephant, with extremely poor logistics, we can anticipate all their moves even before they come to fruition and despite their comparatively large military budget their armed forces resemble a rag tag force not to dissimilar from the ill trained, ill equipped and ill disciplined forces of the "Democratic Republic of Congo". The only option at their disposal is fifth generation warfare using their proxies the BLA and NDS/TTP nexus.Kudos Sarge.

 

[GumNaam]

pakistan doesn't have enough nukes nor do they have strong enough ones to ensure MAD. It will take most of their nukes to destroy Delhi. Indian government is structured in such a way any remaining Metro can take over as the seat of Central government. If all of those are destroy (impossible because of the aforementioned problems), the Triservices branch in the Andamens can be used by the military government.

You do realize that Pakistan has the third largest nuclear weapons stockpile in the world right? and india ain't all that big in landmass.

AQ Khan wasn't bluffing when he said that Pakistan can turn india into charred ashes ten times over; and that was twenty years ago coming from a nation that has been defacto nuclear weapons state since 1984. If you still think that Pakistan hardly has enough nukes to destroy new delhi then you must be shopping for some beachfront property in arizona.

 

[Bhupendra Singh_Cyan]

SO now how the hindian liars on PDF deny the existence of the Cold Start Doctrine? They have been as usual in the denial mode but now their army chief is claiming.
They bring the cold start or hot start we will finish them off with our full might inshaALLAH...Ghazwa-e-Hind Zindabad.

Nice dreams of gazwa-e-hind

And H!ndia haruy does, the truth is your tests were a dud, your nukes are only as powerful as ours, and you have less of those!

We have enough uranium to make 2000 nukes so chill.
If we want nukes we could make 2000 of them but it' would be insane to do such.
Chill nobody's fighting.

Totally concur Sarge, their army is a clumsy lumbering elephant, with extremely poor logistics, we can anticipate all their moves even before they come to fruition and despite their comparatively large military budget their armed forces resemble a rag tag force not to dissimilar from the ill trained, ill equipped and ill disciplined forces of the "Democratic Republic of Congo". The only option at their disposal is fifth generation warfare using their proxies the BLA and NDS/TTP nexus.Kudos Sarge.

In your dreams mate.
Typing rubbish won't make you a superior force not us better.

 

[django]

Chill nobody's fighting.

Reason being the more erudite amongst your planners and leaders know that the Ganga area will become a dsytopian wasteland for the next thousand years , populated by the vilest of mutants.Kudos

 

[Bhupendra Singh_Cyan]

Reason being the more erudite amongst your planners and leaders know that the Ganga area will become a dsytopian wasteland for the next thousand years , populated by the vilest of mutants.Kudos

You really need love my friend and I hope you find so.
A sane person would not ask for such a cruel end of anyone be it your enemy.

 

[django]

You really need love my friend and I hope you find so.
A sane person would not ask for such a cruel end of anyone be it your enemy.

It is called deterrence, I would imagine a similar fate would await the Indus region, this is why you need to shut up clowns like Goswami, Maroof Raza and the vile GD Bakshi who are fueling the hysteria in Gangadesh for war. My dear chap the true enemy of both countries is war itself, hope you understand what I said and take heed of it, challenge RSS types or else........Kudos

 

[Sugarcane]

pakistan doesn't have enough nukes nor do they have strong enough ones to ensure MAD. It will take most of their nukes to destroy Delhi. Indian government is structured in such a way any remaining Metro can take over as the seat of Central government. If all of those are destroy (impossible because of the aforementioned problems), the Triservices branch in the Andamens can be used by the military government.

Other than major cities of India couple of nukes on water source will ensure slower and much painful death of 1.2b Indians,.

 

[django]

Other than major cities of India couple of nukes on water source will ensure slower and much painful death of 1.2b Indians,.

And the survivors will be folks who would be perfect for casting in the next " The hills have eyes" movie, this is the potential fate that awaits them.Kudos

 

[war&peace]

Nice dreams of gazwa-e-hind

Correction, it is a prediction, not a dream ..I hope you know the difference between the two.

 

[AUz]

He calls Cold Start rhetoric, but the fact is this entire article is filled with rhetoric.



Lol.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...lawal-Bhutto-Zardari/articleshow/42987127.cms
"I will take back Kashmir, all of it, and I will not leave behind a single inch of it because, like the other provinces, it belongs to Pakistan," said the scion of highly influential Bhutto family.



Funnily, he also got the Muslim vote. Who do you think is running Kashmir today?



It's simple. Balochistan and Sindh will be split and made into new countries. Sindh may even be absorbed into the Indian union. GB will be absorbed into India. All these areas will get their own govt and the fighting will cease. The rest of Pak, particularly Punjab, can remain on the boil forever, it makes no difference. You don't need a formal surrender to make this happen. Saddam and Gaddafi weren't around to sign surrender agreements. In fact, the Pakistani civilians themselves will string up their generals to stop the fighting. Mussolini anyone?

Pakistan isn't Iraq where the Sunnis fought the US forces. Pakistan has far too much internal turmoil. Plus, India isn't the US, we can park a million men in Pak as an occupying force. And Pak no longer has a neighbour that will help initiate an insurgency, like how Iraq had Syria's ISIS strongholds and external support. China ain't coming to Pak's rescue.

But the above is possible only if there's a full scale war. The Cold Start doctrine isn't meant to force Pak to surrender. It is meant to seek major concessions from Pakistan after a ceasefire is declared and peace negotiations start.

Okay, and then you'd wake up as your god--cow--pisses on your face and your delusions a broken.

india, under no possible scenrio, can "occupy" Pakistan. Our military will wreck havoc across hindu land and will ultimately launch nuclear armageddon upon the only hindu-majority state on planet--leaving it utterly decimated.

It's a MAD scenrio.

Do you know what will happen if Pakistan just explodes a small, tactical nuclear devices on the "source" of ganga river? The contamination will make ganges basin unliveable as water seems through soil, supports agriculture, and so on.

You are a child if you think shithole called india will survive a war against us. You can't. We have caged you like wet dogs. You can't expand, can attack us. You must always live in their caged territory of hindu-istan---cut-off from

 

[randomradio]

Okay, and then you'd wake up as your god--cow--pisses on your face and your delusions a broken.

india, under no possible scenrio, can "occupy" Pakistan. Our military will wreck havoc across hindu land and will ultimately launch nuclear armageddon upon the only hindu-majority state on planet--leaving it utterly decimated.

It's a MAD scenrio.

Do you know what will happen if Pakistan just explodes a small, tactical nuclear devices on the "source" of ganga river? The contamination will make ganges basin unliveable as water seems through soil, supports agriculture, and so on.

You are a child if you think shithole called india will survive a war against us. You can't. We have caged you like wet dogs. You can't expand, can attack us. You must always live in their caged territory of hindu-istan---cut-off from

Nothing will happen if you nuke India. A few cities may get damaged, that's about it. They will get cleaned and rebuilt in a few years. Nuking rivers does nothing, you will kill a few fishes.

Read up on nuclear tests.

 

[khanmubashir]

pakistan doesn't have enough nukes nor do they have strong enough ones to ensure MAD. It will take most of their nukes to destroy Delhi. Indian government is structured in such a way any remaining Metro can take over as the seat of Central government. If all of those are destroy (impossible because of the aforementioned problems), the Triservices branch in the Andamens can be used by the military government.

do u know what nuke is pak has 150 atleast bi int assesment can b more for below 30 indian mega cities even andaman is under range of shahin3 as for abms r unelable 2 interecept at best as for false calim ani metro can become capital and control nation lol not even even usa and russia can do that properli
u should see what happen with 1 nuke per city in japan of half power 2 our nuke 4 ur info nukes blast travel in km so Indian cities have several times more population per km then 1940s japan 1s of less then 150000 populous much less dense so if in japan casualties were around 100000 in india will b in millions with same power nuke and our is of double power tested in 99 and even more pwerful must b arsenal bi now as we keep our capibilites secret

Nothing will happen if you nuke India. A few cities may get damaged, that's about it. They will get cleaned and rebuilt in a few years. Nuking rivers does nothing, you will kill a few fishes.

Read up on nuclear tests.

do u know what nuke is pak has 150 atleast bi int assesment can b more for below 30 indian mega cities even andaman is under range of shahin3 as for abms r unelable 2 interecept at best as for false calim ani metro can become capital and control nation lol not even even usa and russia can do that properli
u should see what happen with 1 nuke per city in japan of half power 2 our nuke 4 ur info nukes blast travel in km so Indian cities have several times more population per km then 1940s japan 1s of less then 150000 populous much less dense so if in japan casualties were around 100000 in india will b in millions with same power nuke and our is of double power tested in 99 and even more pwerful must b arsenal bi now as we keep our capibilites secret

 

[AUz]

Nothing will happen if you nuke India. A few cities may get damaged, that's about it. They will get cleaned and rebuilt in a few years. Nuking rivers does nothing, you will kill a few fishes.

Read up on nuclear tests.

 

[Awan68]

He calls Cold Start rhetoric, but the fact is this entire article is filled with rhetoric.



Lol.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...lawal-Bhutto-Zardari/articleshow/42987127.cms
"I will take back Kashmir, all of it, and I will not leave behind a single inch of it because, like the other provinces, it belongs to Pakistan," said the scion of highly influential Bhutto family.



Funnily, he also got the Muslim vote. Who do you think is running Kashmir today?



It's simple. Balochistan and Sindh will be split and made into new countries. Sindh may even be absorbed into the Indian union. GB will be absorbed into India. All these areas will get their own govt and the fighting will cease. The rest of Pak, particularly Punjab, can remain on the boil forever, it makes no difference. You don't need a formal surrender to make this happen. Saddam and Gaddafi weren't around to sign surrender agreements. In fact, the Pakistani civilians themselves will string up their generals to stop the fighting. Mussolini anyone?

Pakistan isn't Iraq where the Sunnis fought the US forces. Pakistan has far too much internal turmoil. Plus, India isn't the US, we can park a million men in Pak as an occupying force. And Pak no longer has a neighbour that will help initiate an insurgency, like how Iraq had Syria's ISIS strongholds and external support. China ain't coming to Pak's rescue.

But the above is possible only if there's a full scale war. The Cold Start doctrine isn't meant to force Pak to surrender. It is meant to seek major concessions from Pakistan after a ceasefire is declared and peace negotiations start.

Hey bow stupid are u really??, we aint like the italians, no pakistani i assure u will call for stopping fighting, its what u coward hindus do, brag when strong and plead when weakened, we are the descendants of the muslims of old, we answer only to Allah and surrender only before him, we will never bemd to any hindu occupier rest assured vermin, u are dellusional, any misadventure by the indians will result in india loosing galf of its terrotary, we are born and bred warriors, every able pakistani will fight to the death beside our army, lol separating sindh and balochistan??, u onviously dont know the sindhis and balochs, they will string u hindus up like goats, taking pakistan is impossible bachy, israel and the nato allies have been trying for the past 20 yrs and they have failed over and over again, before that the soviet union tried and itself broke into pieces, and the yanks ans soviets were highly intelligent capable and formidble enemies, u hindus are jokes, we dont even take u seriously believe me, to us ur just little vermin who were freed by the british and we are looking for an opportunity to bring u back to ur place and that is on ur knees, u have no will to fight u just talk big, u thrive on damaging enemies from back doors but in a full scale frontal war u are no match for us, we have a huge muslim population in india which modi is thankfully charging up we will break u from within when the time comes, u have militancies in almost all of ur states, ur country is fragile, very fragile, pakistan is impregnible because due to its islamic ideology all of its people are willing to die for it to the death, anyways ur are welcome to entertain ur wet fantasies, if they make u feel good...