CM-400AKG: A tough job for the Indian Navy

[Omya]

pakistan havent released its gun cam... kills r 2 not 9

 

[GR!FF!N]

Air to Air fueling just 400 km from Pakistan's coast? Easy to shoot down. Don't forget PAF has dedicated Mirage squadron for Maritime strike, and the new F-16s. Not to mention the JF-17s that can carry C802/803 and the CM-400. I think you are getting a bit carried away.

@Oscar



That depends if Mig 29s are flying Hi-Hi or Low-hi-Low flight path. Flying close to sea level takes up lots of fuel.

Karachi has quiet a few squadrons, not to mention the SAMs and the TPS-77 ESA radars that will seek those 3 drop tank loaded Mig29s from 300km plus away.

actually India doesn't need even use of a carrier for fleet protection as we can give our naval fleet protection even by using IAF aircrafts.and the main problem is how JF-17,which has relatively short range radar,will direct this missile effectively as it'll need guidance until terminal phase,as we're expecting carrier group will have air cover upto 100 km.we don't need to go closer into karachi.

 

[GoodBoy]

One question are our aircraft carriers pakistan specific or china specific? I dont think we will ever need an aircraft carrier for pakistan as it is our neighbore and its too small a nation

Pak Navy would be restricted to it's docks by few Indian Navy Destroyers and Subs.

So our real match up is China which is ahead of us.

 

[PWFI]

pakistan havent released its gun cam... kills r 2 not 9

Fighter Pilot Aces List neutral source

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Air to Air fueling just 400 km from Pakistan's coast? Easy to shoot down. Don't forget PAF has dedicated Mirage squadron for Maritime strike, and the new F-16s. Not to mention the JF-17s that can carry C802/803 and the CM-400. I think you are getting a bit carried away.

@Oscar



That depends if Mig 29s are flying Hi-Hi or Low-hi-Low flight path. Flying close to sea level takes up lots of fuel.

Karachi has quiet a few squadrons, not to mention the SAMs and the TPS-77 ESA radars that will seek those 3 drop tank loaded Mig29s from 300km plus away.

tankers operate even behind the awac platforms so what makes you think your awac assets will be safe when you claim even our tankers can't operate because of threat from your fighters ? paf would be busy defending iaf air attacks and doing counter attacks so don't count them to engage Indian navy in large numbers.agree flying low require more fuel (but why should we fly low unless we are attacking your sam or radar networks on ground )but then your jf17 with CM400 will be at greater disadvantage because it's you need to sneak in not us. you don't have sam coverage in sea and unless our mig 29 approach your shore you can't shoot them down.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Air to Air fueling just 400 km from Pakistan's coast? Easy to shoot down. Don't forget PAF has dedicated Mirage squadron for Maritime strike, and the new F-16s. Not to mention the JF-17s that can carry C802/803 and the CM-400. I think you are getting a bit carried away.

@Oscar



That depends if Mig 29s are flying Hi-Hi or Low-hi-Low flight path. Flying close to sea level takes up lots of fuel.

Karachi has quiet a few squadrons, not to mention the SAMs and the TPS-77 ESA radars that will seek those 3 drop tank loaded Mig29s from 300km plus away.

well as i said earlier owr Migs dont need extra feul in the western theater well we dont need them even or pakistan as owr bases in south and western border are enof to take owt all your assets you mentioned and you are jumping over your TPS-77ESA but are forgeting the indian green pines which are placed 100 kms inside indian territory and still are able to scan and track all the movement as far as afghan border as for karachi one indian radar in gujrat is more than enof

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

really??they must have said that past decade..actually they're giving the reason that no test of this missile ever reported.a mach 5 missile is generally not goes unreported.but again,as it is a chinese weapon,i'll take time before they come into PAF's hand.

Read it yourself,

The aircraft has rekindled debate about Gates’ controversial 2009 decision to end production of the most advanced U.S. fighter ever built, the stealthy F-22 Raptor, and slow purchases of the F-35. Critics point to China’s long-known race for stealth aircraft as a threat to U.S. air superiority. But Gates, at the time, said China would not have advanced-generation fighters for another decade and the realistic chances of an air-to-air war with other nations did not trump the hardware needs for fighting in Afghanistan in Iraq.

Gates: Intelligence underestimated Chinese stealth progress - News - Stripes

Then after the test flight

On his flight to China Saturday, just weeks after the first pictures of the J-20 appeared on websites, Gates told reporters that "what we've seen is that they maybe are somewhat further ahead in the development of that aircraft than our intelligence had earlier predicted."

China confirms stealth jet-test flight during Gates' visit - USATODAY.com

I won't go deep in any kind of discussion over the CM-400 missile with you or any other fellow Indian, just want to end discussion here by stating a fact that when the world came to know about chinese BVR PL-12 missile it was already operational with J-10 ! They have developed and tested many things during the past decade that you may not even know, like a HELFIRE type of missile for Z-10 which is also operational and whats not.

Here is somthing from same article given above.

"Over the years, the Chinese military doctrine was 'hide and bide' — hide your resources and bide your time," Dorsett said. "They now appear to have shifted into an era where they're willing to show their resources and capabilities. (U.S. Vice Admiral David Dorsett)

 

[perplexed]

Barak 8 gonna tame any PAF's a$$es big time !!

 

[cirr]

The CM-400AKG is the export version of a more lethal missile。

The 240km（some sources say it is 280km）range is restricted by the international missile control regime。

For China's own use，the missile is said to be capable of 4+4, M4 and 400km。

 

[Bullet500]

The CM-400AKG is the export version of a more lethal missile。

The 240km（some sources say it is 280km）range is restricted by the international missile control regime。

For China's own use，the missile is said to be capable of 4+4, M4 and 400km。

any sources videos?

 

[Omya]

Fighter Pilot Aces List[/url] neutral source

The Pakistan Air Force figures have been disputed by Indian sources which claim Alam made four kills, attributing one of the losses of Sqn Ldr Onkar Nath Kacker's aircraft to booster failure or some other cause including the possibility of ground fire. They also claim that gun camera footage of Alam's kills is yet to be made public and therefore some of the kills cannot be confirmed.

source-
en .wikipedia. org/wiki/Muhammad_Mahmood_Alam#Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965

 

[PWFI]

Barak 8 gonna tame any PAF's a$$es big time !!

We have lots of other M.M.ALAM who are ready to beat your AR$$, just like in the past

The Pakistan Air Force figures have been disputed by Indian sources which claim Alam made four kills, attributing one of the losses of Sqn Ldr Onkar Nath Kacker's aircraft to booster failure or some other cause including the possibility of ground fire. They also claim that gun camera footage of Alam's kills is yet to be made public and therefore some of the kills cannot be confirmed.

source-
en .wikipedia. org/wiki/Muhammad_Mahmood_Alam#Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965

wikipedia seriously !

 

[HongWu]

Dont worry , soon you will find South china sea having supersonic 300 km anti ship missiles after 3-4 years .when all indian ships , army armed with it.

then your ships will be sitting ducks and you ship will not dare to came close to 300 km from Vietnam forget ruling south china sea.

Now thats called humiliation

LOL at the Indians so humiliated by China's superiority they delude themselves silly with imaginary missile defense and imaginary hypersonic brahahamos

 

[GR!FF!N]

Read it yourself,



Then after the test flight



I won't go deep in any kind of discussion over the CM-400 missile with you or any other fellow Indian, just want to end discussion here by stating a fact that when the world came to know about chinese BVR PL-12 missile it was already operational with J-10 ! They have developed and tested many things during the past decade that you may not even know, like a HELFIRE type of missile for Z-10 which is also operational and whats not.

Here is somthing from same article given above.

but what they said is right...he never stated anything about "flight"..he stated that they might not be inducted within a decade.and thats fact.see,T-50 was started its taxing/flying quite some years ago,and yet to be inducted.we'll have to wait 4-5 years before induction.same goes for J-20.and for operational,when world sees,it believes.simple logic.but the existence of the missile isn't the issue here.the issue is guidance.

 

[perplexed]

We have lots of other M.M.ALAM who are ready to beat your AR$$, just like in the past



wikipedia seriously !

100 MM Alams gonna do jack shyt infront of rafales and MKI