China's Version of HIMARS, long-range Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), Could Be 'Game Changer' if Beijing Attacks Taiwan

[Beny Karachun]

They first time China warned a foreign country happened the second year after PRC was established , unfornuately the warning was ignored and it resulted in Korean war.

Catastrophe on the Yalu: America’s intelligence failure in Korea

The United States has been in conflict with North Korea since it invaded South Korea in 1950. For decades, it has been a top American intelligence priority to gather information and analysis on the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

www.brookings.edu

Had nothing to do with the Korean war

 

[KAL-EL]

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All you guys do is say BS and never do anything thankfully.

I've been resident of this forum since 2013.

If I had a dime for every time a sofa Soldier said this was going to happen, or that was going to happen, I'd be doing okay with that supplemental income.

It's the same bull**** over and over.

 

[beijingwalker]

Had nothing to do with the Korean war
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French leave, Dutch courage...they don't really mean anything, every country has their fair share of words and phrases to make fun of others.

 

[Beny Karachun]

French leave, Dutch courage...they don't really mean anything, every country has their fair share of words and phrases to make fun of others.

Yeah but it's based on the fact you gave the US over 900 final warnings because they were in Taiwanese territory.

 

[aziqbal]

this is nothing like HIMAR

this is a copy of the old Russian Smerch system which is already way inferior to HIMAR

plus China does not have the guts to supply these to Russia they are too scared unlike Iran who is sending drones already

 

[MajesticPug]

this is nothing like HIMAR

this is a copy of the old Russian Smerch system which is already way inferior to HIMAR

plus China does not have the guts to supply these to Russia they are too scared unlike Iran who is sending drones already

Look who's talking. A shameless British that's about to compete in the 3-minute or less bath against Dutch, Germans, French, and Italians. Don't worry mate. You can beat the Kraut.

 

[S10]

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All you guys do is say BS and never do anything thankfully.

Why do Americunts get all nervous about our exercises if we're doing nothing then?

this is nothing like HIMAR

this is a copy of the old Russian Smerch system which is already way inferior to HIMAR

plus China does not have the guts to supply these to Russia they are too scared unlike Iran who is sending drones already

You're right, nothing like HIMARS. It's way better.

It has 5 times the range and has a CEP of 5 meters at maximum range. HIMARS is more like a retarded monkey in comparison, not unlike you.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Why do Americunts get all nervous about our exercises if we're doing nothing then?

Cope hard, keep exercising, your army has 0 experience. You're just show, just like Russia.

 

[S10]

Cope hard, keep exercising, your army has 0 experience. You're just show, just like Russia.

Then you really have nothing to worry about do you? Quit whining about it like a little sad bitch.

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

These aren't HIMARS man. HIMARS are highly mobile. These rocket systems are heavy.

 

[S10]

These aren't HIMARS man. HIMARS are highly mobile. These rocket systems are heavy.

No, the US equivalent would be M270. And I am using "equivalent" very loosely as US has no comparable system.

PHL-191 has a CEP of 5 meters at maximum range (~380km) for guided rockets and CEP of 1 meter within 280km.

 

[DF41]

Cope hard, keep exercising, your army has 0 experience. You're just show, just like Russia.

China had 0 experience and next to 0 armaments when Japan attacked China in WW2

and guess what. China with 0 experience and next to 0 armaments killed 1,500,000 japs while Murica with battleships and carriers and planes and Ma Deuces and artillery killed 200,000 japs in Pacific war

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It took China only twenty days and less to do that push down to 38 parallel fighting USA and the UN combined who had 100 times and more of the firepower of China.

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And for the Sino Japan war, Japan was so confident that Japan will need only 3 months to smash and conquer whole of China. Especially considering the arms Japan got and the almost no arms China got.

That was enforced by the rape of China from the Imperial powers that of course not allow China to manufacture weapons, major or minor.


Did the Japanese win in CHina?
Could the Japs win in China?
I thought they were stuck in a quagmire and sucked deeper and deeper in China and being killed and injured by the millions in the Sino Japanese war despite the Chinese having pathetically little arms.
I think the German Army stuck and surrounded in Stalingrad got more arms and supplies send to them than what was send in all entirety to the Chinese in China during the Sino Japanese war.
Japan got sucked into quicksand in China despite overwhelming military advantage and 4 to 5 times as many Japanese died at the hands of Chinese than they did in the islands of Pacific at the arms of the USA Marines and Army and Navy.
That the Japanese soldiers were very well trained can be seen in their earlier victories against British and USA.
The Japanese could fight very very well.
As to how Japs could fight, do recall 36,000 Japanese invaded Malaya , forced and fought their way down and utterly defeated 86,000++ British troops capturing Singapore. So do not think Japs could not fight.
About 130,000 Indian, Australian and British troops became prisoners of war when Singapore was surrended to General Yamashita. The 130,000 Brits and Allied forces with artillery and tanks and planes and guns and lots of ammo surrended to 36,000 Japs who rode down on fucking bicycles fighting with guns and hardly any arty .
Neither could the Americans hold off the Japanese at the beginning because the Japanese fought extremely well against USA as seen in Corregidor.
The defensive arsenal on Corregidor was formidable with 45 coastal guns and mortars organized into 23 batteries, some seventy-two anti-aircraft weapons assigned to thirteen batteries and a minefield of approximately 35 groups of controlled mines.
The two 12-inch (305 mm) guns of Batteries Smith and Hearn, with a horizontal range of 29,000 yd (27,000 m) and all-around traverse were the longest range of all the island's artillery.
Caballo Island, with Fort Hughes—just south of Corregidor—was the next largest in area. At about 160 acres (65 ha), the island rose abruptly from the bay to a height of 380 ft (120 m) on its western side. Commander Francis J. Bridget was in charge of its beach defenses with a total of 800 men, of whom 93 were Marines and 443 belonged to the Navy, by the end of April 1942. Coastal artillery numbered some 13 assorted pieces, with its anti-aircraft defenses tied in with those of Corregidor.
Fort Drum—which lay about 4 mi (6.4 km) south of Fort Hughes—was the most unusual of the harbor defenses. Military engineers had cut away the entire top of El Fraile Island down to the water-line and used the island as a foundation to build a reinforced concrete "battleship", 350 ft (110 m) long and 144 ft (44 m) wide, with exterior walls of concrete and steel 25–36 ft (7.6–11.0 m) thick. The top deck of this concrete battleship was 40 ft (12 m) above the low-water mark and had 20 ft (6.1 m) thick walls. Equipped with four 14-inch (356 mm) guns in armored turrets facing seaward, a secondary battery of four casemated 6-inch (152 mm) gunsguns, and two antiaircraft guns, the fort with its 200-man garrison was considered impregnable to attack.
And the 13,000++ USA and Filipino soldiers left on Corregidor with all those hardware and lots of military goodies were ran over and surrendered to 2,400++ Japs in three landings made by the Japs on the island.
And that Gen McArthur ran away from his troops in Corregidor for which he was awarded MOH for his glorious act of running away.
As for China at the time of the Sino Japanese war, China was defenseless.
China had little industry in China being raped and pillaged by Western powers all set to divide and dismembered her and selling opium to China prior to the Sino Japanese war from July 7, 1937, to September 2, 1945
And for that purpose, the Western Powers were not going to let China have the means to produce armaments which could be used to stop the West from enjoying what they could from China.
Second Sino-Japanese War - Wikipedia
Japanese had a very strong military and armaments , from the steel USA happily sold to her for that purpose, together with the oil . Going on until almost before Japan decided to attack Pearl harbour because the Japanese were very unhappy USA not selling to Japan as much steel and oil as they want to beat and loot China in the way the Japanese want to.
China ports were all taken by Japanese so nothing could get through and for that matter, USA was not going to do that as USA had this great friendship going on with Japan.
Until Japan attacked Pearl Harbour that USA decided perhaps USA needed to supply arms to China except USA main focus was to supply arms to Europe as China was a bastard child. China did not even get 1% of the armaments supplied to UK, Russia and other Allied forces in other theatres of war.
The much ballyhooed military lift over the Hump was a fucking joke as that primarily was to try to get fuel and bombs over to bases for USA planes to bomb Japan and not arms for China. And at that, the fuel required to fly over the hump, and to fly back meant only a pittance could be brought over.
Chinese had to take on 80% of the Japanese Armed strength in China itself and 20% of the Japanese in the Pacific fighting the Americans
From Jamie Wong answer to How powerful is the Chinese military?
As a matter of fact, a lot of PLA soldiers didn’t even have a rifle. For major battles, each soldier got 1 rifle, 100~200 bullets, and 2~3 grenades. As for the guerrillas who was fighting in the Japanese occupied ares, half of them didn’t even have a rifle or pistol. Each battle, 5 rounds were the standard equipment. Others had to use blades and spears.
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↑ This picture shows the common situation of PLA guerrillas.
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]↑ And this was already a major division, but in the tough area.[
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↑ This is how the 8th route army looked like. It was the major division of PLA. Still no armored vehicle.[
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[
E]This was how Chinese went into battle in 1941
Those Chinese lucky enough to have rifles would have five rounds for each rifle. The rest using swords and spears against Japanese machine guns, tanks and artillery.
Yet they fought and killed Japanese invaders.
Even though the Chinese had no experience with fighting, and Japanese very well armed and with enormous experience in war and killing, Chinese took them on. (so those that always harp and crow that Chinese got no experience, please remember this and take note)
And Chinese killed over 1.5 million Japanese soldiers. Chinese did it by strapping explosives to their bodies to rush at tanks and machine guns and Japanese concentration of troops in suicidal charges.
Except the chinese being chinese, never ever will call their charges as banzai charges.
This not only killed Japanese, this terrified them as to how Chinese with so few arms could take on the Japanese. This was when the Japanese copied the Chinese in Japanese Pacific war against USA.
Why should the Japanese use Banzai attacks on Chinese in China? Japanese got machine guns and artillery and tanks and planes to kill the Chinese without having to go Banzaiiing!
Japanese learned Kamikazi and Banzai attacks from Chinese.
From the Chinese who had little arms and no other choices to their killing of Japanese in China.
Chinese paid with 14 ++ million of their Chinese soldiers dying . And another 14++ million Chinese civilians slaughtered and murdered by the Japanese soldiers in attempts to terrorised and intimidate China into surrendering.
For the Americans it was very different in their later fight with Japanese.
USA did not have to strap explosives to their bodies like the Chinese soldiers to rush the Japanese.
USA had battleships with 16″ guns and planes and bombs and Ma Deuces and artillery , tanks flame throwers and unlimited ammo and kitchen sink to help them take on the remaining 20% of the Japanese on islands like Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, Guam, Okinawa maybe taking out 200,000 Japanese troops in the entire Pacific islands campaigns.[
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[
]Now we look at how the Chinese fought when they had adequate arms.
Battle of Yenangyaung - Wikipedia
And in Burma, at the battle of Yenangyaung, almost 7,000 British soldiers, and 500 prisoners and civilians were encircled by an equal number of Japanese soldiers from the IJA 33rd Division at Yenangyaung and its oil field. The 33rd Division had cut the Magwe road between Slim's two divisions, who were now about 50 miles (80 km) apart.
General Sun instead led his 113th Regiment with only 1,121 men, of which only 800 were combat personnel, in the rescue mission.
British veteran expresses thanks to descendants of China Expeditionary Force
And those 800 chinese saved the Brits. And those 800 Chinks pulled the chestnuts of the 7,000 valiant brits out of the fucking fire and slaughtered the IJA 33rd Division.
In China, Chinese with kungfu and spears and swords and hardly any guns hold the Japs and fought the Japs killing 1.77 million of the Japs and wounding 1.9 million Japs with suicidal charges strapping explosives to take out Jap tanks and machine guns and artillery.
But Chinese when given adequate arms could fight far better than the Japs.
Imagine now if Chinese had been given sufficient arms in China to fight the fucking Japanese there in China!
There might not even be a fucking TORA TORA TORA at Pearl Harbour. And no Japanese in Pacific at all for USA Army and Marines to fight as Japs will all be in China and being fucked and killed by Chinese in China.

 

[DF41]

this is nothing like HIMAR

this is a copy of the old Russian Smerch system which is already way inferior to HIMAR

plus China does not have the guts to supply these to Russia they are too scared unlike Iran who is sending drones already

Anytime Murica want to embarrass themselves by comparing their touted HIMAR to PHL-191?

HIMAR CANNOT COMPARE IN REACH, AND COMPARE WITH BANG
OR IN CEP
OR COMPARE IN NUMBERS.

The new M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS, will bring the total number committed to Ukraine to 16. The light, wheeled multiple rocket launcher allows Ukraine to strike at ranges of 85 kilometers, or 53 miles,

AND REMEMBER CHINA INDUSTRIAL PROWESS CAN CHURN OUT
PHL-191 AND FIREDRAGONS LIKE COOKIES AND DIMSUMS.

CHINA CAN EASILY SUPPLY RUSSIA WITH 10 PHL-191 FOR EVERY 1 HIMARS MURICA GIVING TO UKRAINE

HIMAR IS LIKE USING MUZZLE LOADER BLACK POWDER SINGLE SHOT AGAINST Type 85 heavy machine gun

No, the US equivalent would be M270. And I am using "equivalent" very loosely as US has no comparable system.

PHL-191 has a CEP of 5 meters at maximum range (~380km) for guided rockets and CEP of 1 meter within 280km.

 

[S10]

Anytime Murica want to embarrass themselves by comparing their touted HIMAR to PHL-191?

HIMAR CANNOT COMPARE IN REACH, AND COMPARE WITH BANG
OR IN CEP
OR COMPARE IN NUMBERS.

The new M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS, will bring the total number committed to Ukraine to 16. The light, wheeled multiple rocket launcher allows Ukraine to strike at ranges of 85 kilometers, or 53 miles,

AND REMEMBER CHINA INDUSTRIAL PROWESS CAN CHURN OUT
PHL-191 AND FIREDRAGONS LIKE COOKIES AND DIMSUMS.

CHINA CAN EASILY SUPPLY RUSSIA WITH 10 PHL-191 FOR EVERY 1 HIMARS MURICA GIVING TO UKRAINE

HIMAR IS LIKE USING MUZZLE LOADER BLACK POWDER SINGLE SHOT AGAINST Type 85 heavy machine gun

China doesn't need to supply Russia with PHL-191. All it needs to do is provide the older PHL-03 with precision guided rockets, which will have longer range than HIMARS.

 

[DF41]

China doesn't need to supply Russia with PHL-191. All it needs to do is provide the older PHL-03 with precision guided rockets, which will have longer range than HIMARS.

Even the much much older PHL-03 considered obsolete by China outranged and outbanged
Murica much touted HIMARS

PHL 03 Multiple Launch Rocket System | Military-Today.com

The PHL 03 multiple launch rocket system is a Chinese version of the Russian Smerch. It has 12 launch tubes for 300 mm rockets. Currently it is one of the most powerful artillery rocket systems in the world.

www.military-today.com

12 launch tubes for 300 mm artillery rockets. A standard rocket weights around 800 kg and has a 280 kg warhead. Maximum range of fire is 70-130 km depending on the warhead type. Rockets are available with High Explosive Fragmentation (HE-FRAG), fuel-air explosive, and cluster warheads with anti-armor and anti-personnel submunitions. Cluster warheads may also carry self-targeting anti-tank munitions. A full salvo of this system could potentially cover an area of up to 67 hectares.

Even though the PHL-03 is a Chinese version of the Smerch, it appears that Chinese overtook Russians in terms of rockets, as rockets of the PHL-03 have longer range than those of the Smerch. Manufacturers claim, that Chinese 300 mm rockets are not compatible with the Russian Smerch rockets as these use different propellant motors and components.



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