China's Version of HIMARS, long-range Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), Could Be 'Game Changer' if Beijing Attacks Taiwan

[Oldman1]

lol, the WS-2D was introduced in 2006, while HIMARS was introduced in 2010.

Why called it a Chinese HIMARS when it was introduced earlier with superior firepower?

HIMARS is different animal. It was designed for transport by C130. The WS-2D is huge and won't fit. However, I believe the U.S. should have something SMERCH like vehicle to fire bigger missiles besides the small 13 feet long missiles currently in use by HIMARS and M270.

I read a Chinese report that the CEP of PCL191 to be 1 meter at 300km.

That video seemed to be 1 meter CEP

With A Deadly 500 Km Range, China Tests 'HIMARS-Like Rocket System' That Can Strike High-Altitude Indian Bases Along The LAC

The 16th round of talks between India and China remained inconclusive. China tested an MLRS that could hit Indian military bases.

eurasiantimes.com

Far outranged Murican HIMARS and with a bigger bang and almost accurate enough to do a root canal job on target.


China should gift Putin with 100 of PCL191 together with 20,000 Firedragons

LOL! the HIMARS will have a missile that will go 500+km. At least 800km in near future. And we have already seen how accurate the missiles are.

 

[beijingwalker]

New Dehli is also well within the range from the Chinese border

 

[Oldman1]

HIMARS wont' help Taiwan due to short range. PHL 191 with 5 times the range can sit comfortably in Mainland China and strike anywhere in Taiwan. HIMARS on the other hand, lacking the range to shoot across the strait can only hide.

Wouldn't underestimate the Taiwanese in how they develop their missiles. Obviously the U.S. won't provide them the new PRSM missile with 500km or more as well as possible 800km or more in future. But if they learn anything from the South Koreans, they can build their own version to hit far into China.

 

[casual]

Wouldn't underestimate the Taiwanese in how they develop their missiles. Obviously the U.S. won't provide them the new PRSM missile with 500km or more as well as possible 800km or more in future. But if they learn anything from the South Koreans, they can build their own version to hit far into China.

What PRSM missiles? don't count your chickens before they get inducted. Taiwan's got nothing to underestimate. All they have is a subsonic cruise missile. Good luck getting that past multiple layered AA zones.

 

[DF41]

HIMARS wont' help Taiwan due to short range. PHL 191 with 5 times the range can sit comfortably in Mainland China and strike anywhere in Taiwan. HIMARS on the other hand, lacking the range to shoot across the strait can only hide.

Nothing can hide in Taiwan. China knew the locations of ALL TAIWAN MILITARY ASSETS

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https://****/azmilitary11/13399

SUBSTITUTE t dot me for **** and see the video

The PLA command has published a video from a Chinese spy satellite showing a Taiwanese missile base in the north

In addition to the publication, the PLA warned that in the event of a conflict, China would destroy the island's most important military infrastructure...

 

[beijingwalker]

Nothing can hide in Taiwan. China knew the locations of ALL TAIWAN MILITARY ASSETS

========================================================

https://****/azmilitary11/13399

SUBSTITUTE t dot me for **** and see the video

The PLA command has published a video from a Chinese spy satellite showing a Taiwanese missile base in the north

In addition to the publication, the PLA warned that in the event of a conflict, China would destroy the island's most important military infrastructure...

Whatever Taiwan has now will all evaporate after the first wave of bombing and shelling attack.

 

[DF41]

Whatever Taiwan has now will all evaporate after the first wave of bombing and shelling attack.

And no air bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam either for that matter.

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What bases will those F-22 F-35 be flying from?

As within 10 minutes prior to all out attack on Taiwan, the bases in Japan and Guam and Okinawa and Taiwan be figments of memories.


First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Those bases will all be hit and cratered by DFs with conventional warheads so planes cannot take off.
Go into above to see photos of strikes made by Chinese on model setups in the Western desert of China that represent hardened bunkers for planes and runways and dock settings with models of Burkes and Ticos and the bases HQs to see the pin point targetting of the DFs.

Followed up within half hour by hundreds of Chinese cruise missiles to finish off what the DFs left and to add on to that.

USA carriers dare not get pass the 3rd Island Chain and become a turkey shoot from DF 26s DF 21s

Discounting the 3000++ Chinese AShCMs which include supersonics and hypersonics, there are 300++ DF21s DF26s

USA got 300 carriers?

Chinese will not care about F-22s F-35s

You heard of Suntze and his ART OF WAR.

Another book that Chinese go by that you should educate yourself

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org

Chapter 4: Melee Stratagems (混戰計, Hùnzhàn jì)[edit]​

Remove the firewood from under the pot (釜底抽薪, Fǔ dǐ chōu xīn)[edit]​

Take out the leading argument or asset of someone; "steal someone's thunder". This is the essence of the indirect approach: instead of attacking enemy's fighting forces, direct attacks against their ability to wage war. Literally, take the fuel out of the fire.

And why all the bases in Japan Okinawa Guam and Taiwan be taken out first.

Your precious F-22s F 35s need fleet of tankers and JSTARS and AWACs
Your tankers and JSTARS AWACs will all be splashed.

How China's Clever New Missile Could Cripple American Air Power
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’

This is what USA Airforce Secretary got to say in 2018. And Chinese missiles improved vastly since 2018.

Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war

 

[casual]

And no air bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam either for that matter.

================================================

What bases will those F-22 F-35 be flying from?

As within 10 minutes prior to all out attack on Taiwan, the bases in Japan and Guam and Okinawa and Taiwan be figments of memories.


First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Those bases will all be hit and cratered by DFs with conventional warheads so planes cannot take off.
Go into above to see photos of strikes made by Chinese on model setups in the Western desert of China that represent hardened bunkers for planes and runways and dock settings with models of Burkes and Ticos and the bases HQs to see the pin point targetting of the DFs.

Followed up within half hour by hundreds of Chinese cruise missiles to finish off what the DFs left and to add on to that.

USA carriers dare not get pass the 3rd Island Chain and become a turkey shoot from DF 26s DF 21s

Discounting the 3000++ Chinese AShCMs which include supersonics and hypersonics, there are 300++ DF21s DF26s

USA got 300 carriers?

Chinese will not care about F-22s F-35s

You heard of Suntze and his ART OF WAR.

Another book that Chinese go by that you should educate yourself

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org

Chapter 4: Melee Stratagems (混戰計, Hùnzhàn jì)[edit]​

Remove the firewood from under the pot (釜底抽薪, Fǔ dǐ chōu xīn)[edit]​

Take out the leading argument or asset of someone; "steal someone's thunder". This is the essence of the indirect approach: instead of attacking enemy's fighting forces, direct attacks against their ability to wage war. Literally, take the fuel out of the fire.

And why all the bases in Japan Okinawa Guam and Taiwan be taken out first.

Your precious F-22s F 35s need fleet of tankers and JSTARS and AWACs
Your tankers and JSTARS AWACs will all be splashed.

How China's Clever New Missile Could Cripple American Air Power
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’

This is what USA Airforce Secretary got to say in 2018. And Chinese missiles improved vastly since 2018.

Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war

f35b doesn't need airfield to take off and land.

 

[DF41]

f35b doesn't need airfield to take off and land.

Those wonderful planes can be loaded with armaments and fueled and maintained and serviced in mid air

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT TO BEHOLD plagiarising Pelosi wonderful turn of words

 

[MajesticPug]

China's Version of HIMARS, long-range Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), Could Be 'Game Changer' if Beijing Attacks Taiwan​

BY ZOE STROZEWSKI ON 8/5/22 AT 1:33 PM EDT

China's Version of HIMARS Could Be 'Game Changer' if Beijing Attacks Taiwan

U.S.-supplied HIMARS have become a key part of Ukraine's counteroffensive in the ongoing war with Russia.

www.newsweek.com

Any mention of Chinese version of HIMARS is in fact a defamation, a put-down, a belittlement of the Chinese rocketry systems. Chinese rockets out range their American counterparts by a huge margin, have better precision, have more varieties of munitions, and probably better mobility.

 

[mike2000 is back]

The title of the thread is stupid.

We know that China will never attack Taiwan and anyway who attacks their own people?

Taiwan will within a decade starts talks on reunification with China and we need to take a step back here and not think of war as being the solution to everything.

If you think Taiwan will want reunification in a decade then i have a bridge to sell you.
If anything with each passing year Taiwanese have gotten only more anti China not otherwise. In fact it's the old remaining immigrants from KMT who fled CCP take over who actually still have fond memories and love of their hometowns in China and are neutral.or even positive abiut some sort of reunification (but they are all dying already and on their last legs) compared to the young ones/locals in Taiwan who have grown even more apart from the mainland than ever before. If the election of DPP who is staunchly pro independence and anti China doesn't make you realise that then i dont know what else can make you guys realise this reality the best time for a peaceful reunification should have been in the 80s and 90s after the death of Mao and Chiang(who had a staunch personal beef and rivalry with Mao/CCP and vice versa ) when KMT still had strong hold of power uncontested in Taiwan, but that would have necessitated some kind of power sharing deal with CCP, which we know as a one party state and a party that prones itself as China itself or even avove the state is unacceptable for CCP as well. Lol

The only way you guys can make Taiwan accept CCP leadership of China is by use of force eventually. Short of that then both sides can keep pretending Taiwan is part of China under CCP while the world knows Taiwan is defacto an independent self ruling state in reality. So I think the status quo suits Taiwan even more.

 

[Oldman1]

What PRSM missiles? don't count your chickens before they get inducted. Taiwan's got nothing to underestimate. All they have is a subsonic cruise missile. Good luck getting that past multiple layered AA zones.

I'll count my chickens before they get inducted. Maybe you haven't heard of them.

 

[casual]

I'll count my chickens before they get inducted. Maybe you haven't heard of them.

China already has better rockets since. you should check out Fire Dragon 480. Longer range, hits moving targets, larger warhead, not to mention cheaper.

 

[Beny Karachun]

And no air bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam either for that matter.

================================================

What bases will those F-22 F-35 be flying from?

As within 10 minutes prior to all out attack on Taiwan, the bases in Japan and Guam and Okinawa and Taiwan be figments of memories.


First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Those bases will all be hit and cratered by DFs with conventional warheads so planes cannot take off.
Go into above to see photos of strikes made by Chinese on model setups in the Western desert of China that represent hardened bunkers for planes and runways and dock settings with models of Burkes and Ticos and the bases HQs to see the pin point targetting of the DFs.

Followed up within half hour by hundreds of Chinese cruise missiles to finish off what the DFs left and to add on to that.

USA carriers dare not get pass the 3rd Island Chain and become a turkey shoot from DF 26s DF 21s

Discounting the 3000++ Chinese AShCMs which include supersonics and hypersonics, there are 300++ DF21s DF26s

USA got 300 carriers?

Chinese will not care about F-22s F-35s

You heard of Suntze and his ART OF WAR.

Another book that Chinese go by that you should educate yourself

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org

Chapter 4: Melee Stratagems (混戰計, Hùnzhàn jì)[edit]​

Remove the firewood from under the pot (釜底抽薪, Fǔ dǐ chōu xīn)[edit]​

Take out the leading argument or asset of someone; "steal someone's thunder". This is the essence of the indirect approach: instead of attacking enemy's fighting forces, direct attacks against their ability to wage war. Literally, take the fuel out of the fire.

And why all the bases in Japan Okinawa Guam and Taiwan be taken out first.

Your precious F-22s F 35s need fleet of tankers and JSTARS and AWACs
Your tankers and JSTARS AWACs will all be splashed.

How China's Clever New Missile Could Cripple American Air Power
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’

This is what USA Airforce Secretary got to say in 2018. And Chinese missiles improved vastly since 2018.

Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war

All you guys do is say BS and never do anything thankfully.

 

[beijingwalker]

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All you guys do is say BS and never do anything thankfully.

They first time China warned a foreign country happened the second year after PRC was established , unfornuately the warning was ignored and it resulted in Korean war.

Catastrophe on the Yalu: America’s intelligence failure in Korea | Brookings

The United States has been in conflict with North Korea since it invaded South Korea in 1950. For decades, it has been a top American intelligence priority to gather information and analysis on the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

www.brookings.edu