China will take strong counter measures

[Urbanized Greyhound]

Psssttt with all due respect, this just won't happen. I am willing to lay odds on it. Economic considerations still trumps emotion for the moment. While the people may want to punish Japan, the CCP doesn't want to or need to act substantively right now.

well dont we all hope so.........instability in asia is something no one really looks forward to......

 

[Molawchai]

I don't mean to sound rude but why are some people flocking to a thread like flies whenever it is about China being in conflict with another country?

I might got a couple of answers to your tough question; just my guess, i could be wrong

(1)May be because some people hope China and Japan might end up in a war, hopefully US, Russia, Nato etc. get involved, China destroyed, no more living under some one else shadow anymore.

(2) May be because of some kind of imaginative revenging "moral satisfation" due to natural born inferiority complex of some people= Like even though i am not good enough to execute a little "sweet revenge" against my natural enemy, it still feels good imagining some one else might end up doing it for me.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I might got a couple of answers to your tough question; just my guess, i could be wrong

(1)May be because some people hope China and Japan might end up in a war, hopefully US, Russia, Nato etc. get involved, China destroyed, no more living under some one else shadow anymore.

(2) May be because of some kind of imaginative revenging "moral satisfation" due to natural born inferiority complex of some people= Like even though i am not good enough to execute a little "sweet revenge" against my natural enemy, it still feels good imagining some one else might end up doing it for me.

I'd sincerely hope that #1), not #2), is the reason. Can't imagine that there are low-lifes who would stoop as low as #2) .

 

[Hafizzz]

I'd like to see what countermeasures the government will take.
Protest?
Solemnly protest?
Strongly protest?
Vehemently protest?

1.3 billion Chinese will boycott JAPanese products.

 

[Brotherhood]

China cuts tourist visits to Japan, tensions rise - People's Daily OnlineSeptember 20, 2010

Japan is paying for its inflexible foreign policy by stubbornly keeping the detention of a Chinese fishing trawler caption, as Beijing has cut a series of bilateral talks and threatening to substantively reduce Chinese tourists' travel to Japan.

China's official Xinhua News Agency reported yesterday that Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister Wang Guangya "made solemn representations" to Japanese Ambassador Uichiro Niwa Sunday evening to express strong anger and protest over Tokyo's prolonged illegal detention of a Chinese citizen.

Tensions between the two eastern Asian countries have escalated dramatically, since Japan illegally detained Chinese trawler captain Zhan Qixiong on September 7, accusing him of "obstructing Japanese officials' public duty" when his fishing boat was chased, intercepted and taken by Japan Coast Guard patrol vessels.

Beijing authorities, supported by an overwhelming public opinion throughout China, have warned of tough counter-measures after a Japanese court Sunday extended the detention of Zhan.

"China demands that Japan immediately release the captain without any preconditions," Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said yesterday in a press release, emphasizing that China viewed the detention as “illegal and invalid”.

"If Japan clings obstinately to its own course and insists on making one mistake after another, China will take strong countermeasures and all the consequences should be born by the Japanese side," the spokesman said.

China has suspended ministerial and provincial-level bilateral exchanges with Japan, halted talks on increasing flights between the two countries and postponed a meeting about coal with Japan, the Xinhua report said.

"The scale of Chinese tourists visiting Japan has been seriously affected," the report added.

Japan's Kyodo news agency reported that the trawler captain's detention had been extended until September 29. This was the second time an extension was granted. A Japanese court first approved an extension on September 10. It said that Japanese prosecutors can hold Zhan for a total of 20 days before deciding whether to take "legal action".

China has repeatedly demanded Japan free the captain and, in protest, has cancelled talks with Japan over natural gas reserves in the East China Sea, which is originally scheduled for this month.

Beijing has also sent marine surveillance ships to strengthen law-enforcement activities in relevant waters to safeguard China's maritime rights and interests, China's Foreign Ministry said over the weekend. China's law-enforcement ships have also been dispatched to cruise in the area and protect Chinese fishermen and their properties.

Asked to confirm media reports that China has transported materials to Chunxiao oil and gas field in the East China Sea, and may carry out maintenance operations there, the Foreign Minsitry said China “possesses full sovereign and jurisdictional rights over Chunxiao and China's activities there are completely reasonable and lawful”.

Huang Dahui, a professor of Japanese studies at Beijing's Renmin University of China, told the Global Times in an interview, saying that some politicians in Japan may not feeling good about it, and choose to take a tough stance to irritate China's Government and Chinese people.

"Japan may also be considering how to forge allies with other countries such as the United States to limit China's influence in the Asia-Pacific region," Huang said.
However, many Chinese experts say that as Japan's economy tilts to depend more on China's growth, Tokyo's hard-line foreign policy towards Beijing is going to anger Chinese government and Chinese people. If China decides to import less from Japan, and more from others, Japan's present struggling economy will get hurt further, they say.

By People's Daily Online

 

[Nomenclature]

How can China cut tourist visits to Japan though? Did the Chinese tourism authority restrict tourism to Japan or is it just private Chinese citizens chose not to visit Japan during the upcoming Mid Autumn-National Day holidays period?

Or maybe some patriotic corrupted officials decided to skip Japan on their next round of overseas trips on public money?

 

[NWO]

Well, the question is who does US support?

 

[DesiGuy]

Well, the question is who does US support?

US is neutral so far.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Well, the question is who does US support?

It is not within America's interest to intrude for two primary reasons. One, America will risk alienating China by directly supporting Japan (obviously) and two (not so obvious), the U.S. risk fostering better relations between the mainland and Taiwan since Taiwan also claims control over the Diaoyu Islands. The smartest thing for the U.S. to do, right now, is to sit back and see how every one responds and act accordingly.

 

[maxx]

Meh...all I see is just the usual horn locking. Japan has already upped the ante by having their coast guard there, China is only doing the same now.

A question: mainland China claims Diaoyutai as part of Taiwan province, so if mainland China manage to get the island now, do they hand it over to Taiwan?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The interesting thing about having a diplomatic conflict with Japan, is that they are forbidden by their own constitution, from even making the "threat" of force.

So even if this diplomatic incident gets a lot bigger (which it won't), there is a ceiling that the Japanese cannot cross, because of their own pacifist constitution.

 

[Carnivore]

What do you want them to do?

Send in naval ships?
Blockade Japan?
Launch ballistic missiles at Japan?
Nuke Japan?

No, I was just kiddin'

I don't think the government's current measures have any faux pas. They have done what they can do. But the government should be responsible for our passive position in the Diaoyu island issue. We don't have enough coast guard forces to keep routine patrol around Diaoyu island, which causes Japan's practical control over Diaoyu island.
Hope to see a lot of 3000+ tons coast guard ships being launched in next several years.

 

[Carnivore]

1.3 billion Chinese will boycott JAPanese products.

Impossible.
My computer's motherboard is installed with Rubycon capacitor.
My mobile hard disk is HITACHI.
The television in my parlour is SHARP.
my ......
Our Wenchuan, Zhouqu disaster areas are full of KOMATSU, HITACHI excavators., some of which are second hand but they still work better than China's indigenou excavators.
Chinese boycotting Japanese products is as rediculous as American boycotting Chinese products.

 

[below_freezing]

we should solve this diplomatically.

with 3.5 megatons of diplomacy aimed at tokyo.

realistically we won't even touch the japanese and they will only touch the captain and nothing more. but it's time to talk tougher, though strategically and not like north korea/iran/india.

 

[scuthan]

Impossible.
My computer's motherboard is installed with Rubycon capacitor.
My mobile hard disk is HITACHI.
The television in my parlour is SHARP.
my ......
Our Wenchuan, Zhouqu disaster areas are full of KOMATSU, HITACHI excavators., some of which are second hand but they still work better than China's indigenou excavators.
Chinese boycotting Japanese products is as rediculous as American boycotting Chinese products.

Why impossible?

My laptop is Dell.
the cell phones i have used are motorola, nokia, Lenovo, samsumg
...
the only Japanese electric gadget i have is my SONY digital camera, because there is no other options.

as you mentioned excavators, there are lots of non-japanese ones: China's Sanyi heavy machinery and Xugong heavy machinery make good excavators. Korea's Hyundai and America's Caterpillar also make excavators.

My father's car is Volkswagen. Now i am saving money to buy my first car in America. surely i won't consider japanese car.

i don't think boycotting Japanese products made in china would possibly backfire to chinese economy and lead to unemployment of chinese worker. Actually Japanese electric appliances and cell phones are losing chinese martket to chinese bands rapidly without being boycotted. china is the world's largest automobile and telecom consumption market, second largest oil consumption market. it also consumes 60% of world's cement production, 50% of world's steel production. japs can not afford any further failure in chinese market.

Boycotting japanese products simply make them fail the market competition and give way to growing chinese bands. that's all