China to have 4 aircraft carriers, 18 Type 055 destroyers, and 300 J-20 by 2025
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Are you asking Japs to sell you LHD with F35 on it?
once again, Type 056 is waiting for you, you don't belong here.
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Sorry no offense but your 00 corvettes are too weak against Viet Nam M-class corvettes. Your inferior missiles are no match for Kh35 antiship missiles. Not worth to discuss. Bring in your destroyers!Are you asking Japs to sell you LHD with F35 on it?
once again, Type 056 is waiting for you, you don't belong here.
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Sorry no offense but your 00 corvettes are too weak against Viet Nam M-class corvettes. Your inferior missiles are no match for Kh35 antiship missiles. Not worth to discuss. Bring in your destroyers!
Destroyers for such little midget boat???
Sorry, our 056 is a overkill to you...
This boat can beat shxt out of you:
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You have zero knowledge about the naval build up doctrine for the different nation, why should we arm our tier 4 ships to the teeth when sixty of them is duper kill for your main surface ship which is unsurprisingly a few corvettes. You are just like those kids in the primary school comparing boat to boat, gun to gun, I don't have times to lecturing you, bye.Sorry no offense but your 00 corvettes are too weak against Viet Nam M-class corvettes. Your inferior missiles are no match for Kh35 antiship missiles. Not worth to discuss. Bring in your destroyers!
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Sorry no offense but your 00 corvettes are too weak against Viet Nam M-class corvettes. Your inferior missiles are no match for Kh35 antiship missiles. Not worth to discuss. Bring in your destroyers!
doesn't even have VLS or AESA radar. Looks like 1960's fishing boat.
lmao.
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This is the tiny midget shxtty boat with less than 500 ton displacement...
Eventhough, all his shitty navy got is less than a dozen....
With ZERO air defence capability... Just pathetic...
Not our advanced jets, but one wave of strike you will found all these midgets together with the midgets on board in the bottom of South China Sea:
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This bumpkin @Viet does not know that our over 60 type 056s are our lower end ships (1500 ton class) but still can beat shxt out of the crappy shitty jungle navy...You have zero knowledge about the naval build up doctrine for the different nation, why should we arm our tier 4 ships to the teeth when sixty of them is duper kill for your main surface ship which is unsurprisingly a few corvettes. You are just like those kids in the primary school comparing boat to boat, gun to gun, I don't have times to lecturing you, bye.
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You don’t know the saying: small but beautiful?This is the tiny midget shxtty boat with less than 500 ton displacement...
Eventhough, all his shitty navy got is less than a dozen....
With ZERO air defence capability... Just pathetic...
Not our advanced jets, but one wave of strike you will found all these midgets together with the midgets on board in the bottom of South China Sea:
Shit for you but ok for us
no air defense?
Every M missile corvette carry 12x A72 anti aircraft missiles. That is a modified version of ground based missiles.
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Convinced the Yankees first.
Stupidity has no limit. I know you are nationalistic but only facts can carry you far. Your ship has no AESA, no gas turbine engine, no multiple VLS universal silo and no hangar to carry help for crucial anti-sub ops. You can thump your chest 1000 times, even the most arrogant true Vietnamese military fanboy will not utter the nonsense you say to delude themselves.You don’t know the saying: small but beautiful?
Shit for you but ok for us
no air defense?
Every M missile corvette carry 12x A72 anti aircraft missiles. That is a modified version of ground based missiles.
Lol @ Chinese pdf posters talking about non-existent Type-095SSNs in service and putting J-20s in South China sea Islands!
We are talking about an open ocean battle where only the current assets of the UK and Chinese Navies are available.
There is no empirical evidence of whether the ASBMs will be effective at all and so we need to discount this.
Fact is that China will have no air-cover and submarine cover as the UK has aircraft and submarines one generation ahead in these two areas. All Chinese J-15 aircraft will be shot down on the first day and the submarines will last a bit longer but sunk they will be.
Then it is just a case of how many weeks the large Chinese surface fleet can last against the F-35Bs and the Astute class SSNs. UK will pick the time and place of attack of their choosing and all the Chinese can do is to wait for the attacks to come and try to defend themselves.
As an example of how deadly the Astute class is, check out it's torpedo specs:
Name: Spearfish
Max Firing Range: 54km
Speed: 148km/h
Each Astute can carry 38 Torpedos and the 3 will have over a hundred to deal with the 50 or so Chinese surface combatants available. Of course the F-35Bs will swoop in from low level and using their stealth to drop Spear 3(120km range) missiles and they can carry 4 missile per bay for total of 8 - these are small missiles and will take out the radars of the Chinese surface combatants and their size and numbers will make sure that many get through to turn the Chinese ships blind.
In contrast the Type-054As that are supposed to be hunting the Astutes(in reality the F-35Bs and Astutes will be hunting them) have torpedos with a range of 14km and so the Astute will fire out of range and sink the 054As.
As long as the Chinese do not have the Type-095 SSN deployed and the navalised FC-31 on their carriers then they are no match for the likes of a small but highly advanced Navy like the UK Royal Navy.
PS - UK will be able to sail a 4th Astute SSN as that is nearly ready for service anyway but I don't even think they will need it.
PSS - It will not be just the 6 Type-45 destroyers that will be defending the fleet but also the 13 Type-23 frigates. The Type-23 frigates have been upgraded with the new Artisan 3D radar (200km range)and the 32-VLS Sea-Ceptor missile that can fire at targets more than 25km away. When combined with the 3 CIWS carrier has the chances of any Chinese missile getting through and hitting the UK carrier will be very slim.
We are talking about an open ocean battle where only the current assets of the UK and Chinese Navies are available.
There is no empirical evidence of whether the ASBMs will be effective at all and so we need to discount this.
Fact is that China will have no air-cover and submarine cover as the UK has aircraft and submarines one generation ahead in these two areas. All Chinese J-15 aircraft will be shot down on the first day and the submarines will last a bit longer but sunk they will be.
Then it is just a case of how many weeks the large Chinese surface fleet can last against the F-35Bs and the Astute class SSNs. UK will pick the time and place of attack of their choosing and all the Chinese can do is to wait for the attacks to come and try to defend themselves.
As an example of how deadly the Astute class is, check out it's torpedo specs:
Name: Spearfish
Max Firing Range: 54km
Speed: 148km/h
Each Astute can carry 38 Torpedos and the 3 will have over a hundred to deal with the 50 or so Chinese surface combatants available. Of course the F-35Bs will swoop in from low level and using their stealth to drop Spear 3(120km range) missiles and they can carry 4 missile per bay for total of 8 - these are small missiles and will take out the radars of the Chinese surface combatants and their size and numbers will make sure that many get through to turn the Chinese ships blind.
In contrast the Type-054As that are supposed to be hunting the Astutes(in reality the F-35Bs and Astutes will be hunting them) have torpedos with a range of 14km and so the Astute will fire out of range and sink the 054As.
As long as the Chinese do not have the Type-095 SSN deployed and the navalised FC-31 on their carriers then they are no match for the likes of a small but highly advanced Navy like the UK Royal Navy.
PS - UK will be able to sail a 4th Astute SSN as that is nearly ready for service anyway but I don't even think they will need it.
PSS - It will not be just the 6 Type-45 destroyers that will be defending the fleet but also the 13 Type-23 frigates. The Type-23 frigates have been upgraded with the new Artisan 3D radar (200km range)and the 32-VLS Sea-Ceptor missile that can fire at targets more than 25km away. When combined with the 3 CIWS carrier has the chances of any Chinese missile getting through and hitting the UK carrier will be very slim.
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