China may export J-10B fighters with Russian AL31FN-S3 engines to Pakistan

[Zarvan]

it too early for j10c production its only been a year since they started mass production for j10b

well said Pakistan is a defensive country, but its ok to go naughty and have a little offensive.

Best defense is always best offence enough of this defensive policy

 

[Blue Marlin]

it too early for j10c production its only been a year since they started mass production for j10b

well said Pakistan is a defensive country, but its ok to go naughty and have a little offensive.

54 is a good number but since your at 3 squadrons make it 4 at 72 jets or 80 back-up and trainers. but thats pushing it.

Best defense is always best offence enough of this defensive policy

cant agree with you any more. now all we have to do is pitch the idea/concept to Raheel Sharif and see if he will reevaluate the armed forces stance. I'm British so you will have to do it

 

[Zarvan]

54 is a good number but since your at 3 squadrons make it 4 at 72 jets or 80 back-up and trainers. but thats pushing it.


cant agree with you any more. now all we have to do is pitch the idea/concept to Raheel Sharif and see if he will reevaluate the armed forces stance.

Budget is issue if we had a budget like of Saudi Arabia than I would want 150 SU-35 and 180 J-10B or C in our Air Force and lot more F-16 but our budget sucks

 

[VelocuR]

J-10B chapter is closed now. Don't need same argument.

Pakistan is only focus on JF-17 Block 2 & 3 and FC-31, that's it.

No funds available than that.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Budget is issue if we had a budget like of Saudi Arabia than I would want 150 SU-35 and 180 J-10B or C in our Air Force and lot more F-16 but our budget sucks

one day things will change for you. thats right after you deal with the ttp and the balochistan militant problem and get the economy going.

ok lets say you have a luge amount of money.
providing 1 squadron(sq) = 18 jets
b and t = back up and training


su35 9 sq=162 +8 for bandt= 170
j10b/c 15 sq=270 +8 for bandt = 278 remember you have a huge amount of money you need a lot of mmrc jets
f16's as many as you can get your hands on treat it like the rose program with the mirage

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

it too early for j10c production its only been a year since they started mass production for j10b

Even we place the order today it would be 12-18 months for deliveries to start. I don't see Pakistan placing the order in 2015.

J-10B chapter is closed now. Don't need same argument. Pakistan is only focus on JF-17 Block 2 & 3 and FC-31, that's it. No funds available than that.

The fifth generation fighters will take time to develop. Even the F-35 is facing problems. We need J-10C in meantime.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Even we place the order today it would be 12-18 months for deliveries to start. I don't see Pakistan placing the order in 2015.

well technically they have signed for 36 or 2 squadrons and a price of 1.4 billion or 38 million each they were negations for deliveries only just last year

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

well said Pakistan is a defensive country, but its ok to go naughty and have a little offensive.

Best form of defense is offensive defense

A Facebook page wings of Asia has claimed Pakistan and Russia has started to prepare a contract for delivery of SU-35 to Pakistan

what do you personally think? do you believe if such as deal will accrue. and if such a deal happens will it only be for 24 or for more in the future?

Talks if real then they are in very early stage hence if something does mature it will be be in a similar time frame of Indian Rafale order. However these aircraft would be delivered before the Indian Rafales.

Budget is issue if we had a budget like of Saudi Arabia than I would want 150 SU-35 and 180 J-10B or C in our Air Force and lot more F-16 but our budget sucks

Zarvan if it was like RSA's then Eurofighter or F-35 would have been ordered. With a guarantee no sanctions

 

[Zarvan]

Best form of defense is offensive defense





Talks if real then they are in very early stage hence if something does mature it will be be in a similar time frame of Indian Rafale order. However these aircraft would be delivered before the Indian Rafales.


Zarvan if it was like RSA's then Eurofighter or F-35 would have been ordered. With a guarantee no sanctions

Well EuroFighter Yes but F-35 still difficult but would love to have them but even better if one day USA agrees to sell F-22

 

[Mani2020]

Well EuroFighter Yes but F-35 still difficult but would love to have them but even better if one day USA agrees to sell F-22

Add some f-15 silent eagles, su-35, Mig-35, J-11 , J-15, J-16, F-18, B-2 and Rafale too and then top it up with J-20 and T-50 . Now we have a nice dish for fanboys who do day dreaming.

 

[Zarvan]

Add some f-15 silent eagles, su-35, Mig-35, J-11 , J-15, J-16, F-18, B-2 and Rafale too and then top it up with J-20 and T-50 . Now we have a nice dish for fanboys who do day dreaming.

With 80 Billion dollar budget if we had that 5 4.5 Generation would have been their in PAF but our budget sucks. That is what I was saying you first check what a person was saying than talk.

 

[Mani2020]

With 80 Billion dollar budget if we had that 5 4.5 Generation would have been their in PAF but our budget sucks. That is what I was saying you first check what a person was saying than talk.

We dont even have enough budget to buy Eurofighter in numbers and you were talking about the possibility of f-35 (can't afford) and f-22 ( a big big no, USA will never offer it to even her allies).

And lots of ifs mate...

 

[Zarvan]

We dont even have enough budget to buy Eurofighter in numbers and you were talking about the possibility of f-35 (can't afford) and f-22 ( a big big no, USA will never offer it to even her allies).

And lots of ifs mate...

I said if we had at least 80 billion dollars in budget not with current budget.

 

[HAIDER]

China’s J-10B Fighter More Advanced Than Indian Su-30, Japanese F-15J aircraft: Chinese Expert


China’s J-10B fighter is more advanced than the Su-30 and the F-15J aircraft in service with India and Japan respectively and the 3.5 generation American fighters deployed in the Asia-Pacific.

A Chinese expert quoted in China Military Online claimed that the medium-scale 3.5-generation J-10B fighter has 19 tons of maximum take-off weight, a bomb load between 6 and 8 tons, a combat radius of about 1,000 kilometres and a flight speed between 1 and 1.5 mach.

The J-10B fighter is equipped with active electronically scanning phased-array radar and is capable of carrying beyond visual range air-to-air missiles. Zhang Zhaozhong, a military expert at the National Defense University (NDU) was quoted as saying that the J-10B fighter is at least 30 per cent better than the J-10A fighter in overall performance.

The lower nose of the J-10B fighter allows pilots to have a broader field of vision, and the active phased-array radar with a diameter of about one meter mounted inside the oblate nose part of the fighter, electronic jammer and searching and tracking device mounted outside the fighter cabin, upgrade the fighter’s electronic information system performance, Zhang was quoted as saying.

In addition to short-range dogfight ammunition, the J-10B fighter can carry medium-range interception missiles with a firing range of tens of kilometres, and at the same time, it is capable of attacking ground targets.

Therefore, its combat effectiveness is upgraded with an overall performance improvement of over 30 percent as compared with that of the J-10A fighter, Zhang introduced.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Well EuroFighter Yes but F-35 still difficult but would love to have them but even better if one day USA agrees to sell F-22

ok easy there. japan and Israel lobbied the US government for the f22. just dont say f22 for export.

the eurofighter? well if you have the money then yes. they are currently dong aerodynamic enhancements to the airframe to make it even more agile. and there is the option of thrust-vectoring with more powerful new spec ej200 engines. lets just say this modified typhoon will dance with the su35 any day of the week.

Best form of defense is offensive defense





Talks if real then they are in very early stage hence if something does mature it will be be in a similar time frame of Indian Rafale order. However these aircraft would be delivered before the Indian Rafales.


Zarvan if it was like RSA's then Eurofighter or F-35 would have been ordered. With a guarantee no sanctions

f35 is restricted to certain countries . it would have been the eurofighter typhoon.