China All Su-35 news

[qwerrty]

Again this BS ?
As I earlier noted in another thread, Voice of Russia and other Russian news agencies didn't report anything like this, was reported only that negotiations are continuing in agreement contract

100 Su-35 - it's total number of the fighters that Russia wants to export, not only in China but also in other countries.

According Pogosyan, Russia is going to produce about 200 Su-35, 100 for itself and 100 for export to other countries.
The mighty Sukhoi Su-35 lancing through the Le Bourget sky this week is just the beginning of the type’s international exposure, according to Mikhail Pogosyan.The head of Sukhoi‘s parent company, United Aircraft, is forecasting 200 sales of the type, split 50:50 between domestic and export. There are 48 currently on order so far by the Russian military and Pogosyan is eyeing 100 export sales, which should come from existing customers of Sukhoi or MiG jets.
air-show.co/military-aviation-news/paris-pogosyan-sees-market-for-200-su-35s/

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[Tipu_Sultan]

Why chine need these plains??
dont they have their own??

becoz they want to upgrade JF series....... its called innovation for chinese world knws it as

COPY ....... PASTE.........COPY

 

[aliaselin]

The Chinese has their own Flanker building, why do they need a Russian made SU-35? China has their own Flanker series.

China will be more focus on J-15 and J-16.
J-15 for 150
J-16 > 200
this makes the production capacity of China is not sufficient

 

[shuttler]

It is a good augmentation to our airforce as a whole as our speed of production cannot catch up with our target

Check the equivalent no of planes of our enemy and its proxies then you'll know the purchase is a good choice for strengthening our airpower.

Forget about the "cut and paste" trolls if you can “cut and paste” why you still cant have a damn plane to fly after half a century of development?

We have our own independent and advancing science and tech to back us up for our aviation industry. We are closing the gap.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Another Su-35 thread?

 

[vostok]

I did not met such news in Russian internet segment.

 

[JohnyD]

guess China has lost confidence in its J20 project...its good for China's national security.

 

[shuttler]

Who knows the real number? Even 100 cost 6.5billion only 5% of China's one year defence budget, not a big deal

if that price is right it is a good deal and better than Rafale which is @ $100 mio each.
100 planes is not many let alone 24 and the aircraft will be delivered over say 5 years time

 

[indoPunjabi]

This beast of a fighter jet could knock off rafale any time of the day!

 

[JayAtl]

whoa whoa.. we've told so often here by the Chinese about how great their home made military aircraft's are and how they laugh at other countries buying high numbers of foreign aircraft's... what happened?

 

[Genesis]

I always supported more, at this point China needs numbers, there's only so many factories and so many planes China can make a year.

Best if it can be all made in Russia. More expensive, yes, but also will up the advanced fighter's number.

As to China having 5th gen development and thus have access to more advanced systems for J-31, J-20, maybe. But China at this point can't match US even in numbers of planes produced, so having a foriegn manufacturer is still good.

Besides, who knows when the fifth gen will be out, and even if finished when we will have sufficent numbers for it to be effective, even if effective, when we will have the right strategies and other systems to go with the J-20s. So I foresee 5th gen to be effective in 2020ish at least.

J-35 is the best fighter available right now. Why not have it.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

whoa whoa.. we've told so often here by the Chinese about how great their home made military aircraft's are and how they laugh at other countries buying high numbers of foreign aircraft's... what happened?

Simple just do your math Mr. 64=65: we're great of making our "home made military aircraft" and we will be even more greater if we can improve our aircraft from technologies abroad, Su-35 is a window of oportunity...get it? , As for quantities, people can speculate...24, 48..100...but you can expect that with large order Russian must offer us something interesting in return, or we will stick with our J-11 and J-15, J-16 if the offer is not worth...only future will tell what is the deal.

This beast of a fighter jet could knock off rafale any time of the day!

Try p1$$ Russia with your Rafale, C-17, Chenook, Apache deals, they will sure know how to return your favor, We Chineses don't have great expectation from Russians but if they're willing to make some interesting offer...we're more than happy to welcome them, we're looking forward to replace our J-11 in Tibet with SU-35 if this deal pass.

guess China has lost confidence in its J20 project...its good for China's national security.

J-20 is our future investment and is un-stoppable even without the proper engines, you Indians can comforted yourself with a bollywood dream that we abandon this project

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

This beast of a fighter jet could knock off rafale any time of the day!

Not really,SPECTRA EW with data fusion is only matched by superhornet and f-22 currently electronically.In NATO MACE XIII exercise in slovakia,where NATO members participated against slovakian S-300 system f-16 all other aircraft suffered heavy simulated losses to s-300 system.The only plane which was found immune was RAFALE due to its Epic EW suite.
Also METEOR is best BVR on the planet.And Rafale has far lesser RCS and AESA radar to su-35 PESA.RAFALE can easily take on any flanker .
Su-35 big advantage Is in 3d TVC though.Once in WVR rafale in disadvantge.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Simple just do your math Mr. 64=65: we're great of making our "home made military aircraft" and we will be even more greater if we can improve our aircraft from technologies abroad, Su-35 is a window of oportunity...get it? , As for quantities, people can speculate...24, 48..100...but you can expect that with large order Russian must offer us something interesting in return, or we will stick with our J-11 and J-15, J-16 if the offer is not worth...only future will tell what is the deal.



Try p1$$ Russia with your Rafale, C-17, Chenook, Apache deals, they will sure know how to return your favor, We Chineses don't have great expectation from Russians but if they're willing to make some interesting offer...we're more than happy to welcome them, we're looking forward to replace our J-11 in Tibet with SU-35 if this deal pass.

J-20 is our future investment and is un-stoppable even without the proper engines, you Indians can comforted yourself with a bollywood dream that we abandon this project

We don't need bollywood dream,by all means go ahead with j-20.Worry would have been if u got t-50.
A fifth gen fighter that is modified failed 1990s mig 1.44 design,without russian permission engine can't supercruise or TVC,and stealth design with canards..thats what happens when u blindly copy design from mig1.44.We are very happy at t-50 vs j-20 scenario....i congratulate u on the future investment.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Not really,SPECTRA EW with data fusion is only matched by superhornet and f-22 currently electronically.In NATO MACE XIII exercise in slovakia,where NATO members participated against slovakian S-300 system f-16 all other aircraft suffered heavy simulated losses to s-300 system.The only plane which was found immune was RAFALE due to its Epic EW suite.
Also METEOR is best BVR on the planet.And Rafale has far lesser RCS and AESA radar to su-35 PESA.RAFALE can easily take on any flanker .Su-35 big advantage Is in 3d TVC though.Once in WVR rafale in disadvantge.

So Are you try to tell us that overhaul SU-35 is inferior to Rafale?