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Breaking: Qassem Soleimani Confirmed Dead by Iraqi State Media

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Trump is desperately trying to drag Iran in a war with US to stay in power. The most logical response is to stay calm and don't retaliate. Wait after next president is elected and then get our revenge. But the question is. How much beating can Iran handle before we HAVE to retaliate? If we respond now we get a full scale war and lose our influence in Iraq entirely. If we don't respond, they will continue to strike all Pro Iranian militants in Iraq until there is none left. Ironically. The only man able to mastermind us out of this situation was Soleimani.
After 8 months we've access to weapons for import and export. Our arms embargo will end. They're are panicking about this and want to see Iran lash out before these 8 months.
 
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Looks tiny that Qassim Soleimani. Can't be taller than 1.65 meters.

@dani92

What a day. Half of those Wilayat al-Faqih foreigners, terrorists, traitors and fifth columns have been eliminated within less than 48 hours.

Still waiting for this tumor:







Another pseudo-Iraqi with roots in the east.
He should be dragged in the street like what iraqis to the monarchist Abdulillah and Nuri Al-Said.
 
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You are too small and don't have the money. If you had the size of India and Indias GDP you would be a dominant power

We are still bigger and stronger than Iran, and can still defeat India in conventional warfare.

The way things are moving, India will destroy itself.

Antagonizing neighbors is not a good long term strategy for Iran, someone seems to have figured it out.
 
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That would be the first time that the US were to strike/target Houthis. Strange timing as well as there are ongoing negotiations between the Yemeni government and the Houthis terrorists/fifth columns regarding Hudaydah.

I think that such strikes are more likely to be KSA/UAE in origin given the track record of such strikes in the past. Or even more likely a coordinated attack. MBS had several phone calls with Pompeo in the last 10 days.

Anyway it appears to be an actual IRGC target, lol.


Anyway I am not complaining.

Not a first time that Iranian IRGC terrorists are killed in Yemen or Hezbollah operatives. Posted videos of KSA/Arab coalition targeting such individuals before and now we have further confirmation that some of them are hiding in Northwestern Yemen, probably entering during the lawlessness period in 2014-2015.





It would be clever to up the pressure in Northwestern Yemen.


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So much for the moronic low IQ Mullah claims of "we have nothing to do with Yemen" that gullible cretins on PDF also believe in.:lol:

But that is another cluster**** much like Syria, Libya and Iraq of late, sadly.
woow.. some pictures and phone number made for you by your US parents, now everything is so special.. we found an Iranian agent..
By the way where is your 85% story that you're telling for 6 years.
 
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They're are panicking about the 8 months arms embargo which is going to end after 8 months. They know if Iran gets access to buying and selling arms they are fucked.

It is more than an 8 month ordeal. You have to set up infrastructure, training, etc. Things won't change overnight.
 
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We are still bigger and stronger than Iran, and can still defeat India in conventional warfare.

The way things are moving, India will destroy itself.

Antagonizing neighbors is not a good long term strategy for Iran, someone seems to have figured it out.

I am not going to enter a dick measuring contest with you. But regarding being bigger than Iran. Have you been to school bro?

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This is severe dick measuring. What about the population?

Read my comment he quoted. I were saying that Pakistan is too small and doesn't have the economy to become a dominant power. If you had the size of India and Indias economy, you would be a dominant power. He said Pakistan is bigger than Iran. Thats why I posted the map.

You have the population, morale, spirit, minds etc, what you are lacking is size and economy.
 
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1) They wont elect a new president in the middle of a war.
2) US have us cornered. If we respond now we get a full scale war and lose our influence in Iraq entirely. If we don't respond, they will continue to strike all Pro Iranian militants in Iraq until there is none left and we lose our influence in Iraq entirely. Ironically. The only man able to mastermind us out of this situation was Soleimani.

If we didn't plan for this before sining JCPOA and made sure we are capable of quickly building nukes when we need to and if we haven't secretly been producing ICBMS, we are screwed. Only option is to test nukes, put them on an ICBM and then respond proportionally to US. Nothing else is going to stop them from invading Iran once they finish of our influence in Iraq

There is another option. It is not doom and gloom, and it is not necessary to fall deeper in the trap.

Iran should drop its self-destructive foreign policy and its funding of Shia militias in neighboring countries.

Reach out to Turkey, Pakistan, Afghan Taliban, Sunni Arabs (aside from Gulf,) and most of all accept the current foreign policy was misguided.

By itself, Iran will be straggled and finished off, but together we can fight back against this.
 
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He will eventually, like most of his filth have lately and since 2003. One way or another, an Iraqi patriot will get him and his likes.
I think many iraqis deserved this miserable you see they will killed the monarchs in savage and brutal way even though they didn't do 10% what the republicans did while they feared saddam who executed and tortured many of then in brutal way yet the didn't dare to revolt against him and drag him in the street even the he was more oppressive than the so called british puppet monarchy. The same goes with Russians who killed the tsar by accusing him of corruption and oppression while living under the Bolsheviks who were worst lol or right now with Iranians under the ayatollah who made the shah's SAVAK amateurs compared to them.
 
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The US struck Soleimani yesterday and the other PMU leaders today BECAUSE The US has lost effective deterrence by presence and posture.

The US decided to remix the equation(targeted assassinations) to see if this sort of violence will restore military deterrence with Iranian backed groups. Problem is, that has escalated things past "acceptable" for Iran.

I am making my prediction here and now: The US is flexing militarily and Iran is reacting quietly(for now),but US is more afraid of a conflict than Iran is.

Trump might have also acted extra aggressive here in order to restore his humiliation by Iranian military last year. Trump was provoked 2-3 times by Iran and he didnt do anything, so that might have made Iran more aggressive, and so now Trump is doing these assassination to put a lid on Iran's military activities and restore more effective deterrence against Iran.

Those of you who said Iran wont do anything, please save and screenshot those posts where you said that.

Iran cant beat US in a conventional war, let me state that loud and clear, because some people get triggered and start hallucinating your intent when you say anything that suggests or sounds otherwise.

BUUUT, when you consider the fact that Trump has given Iran the MOST effective reasons in a long time that creates unity for military action and aggressive behavior PLUS the fact that Iran is currently a matured, rested and competent military power PLUS the fact that US military priority is to focus on China(which is why Trump didnt strike Iran last year when he had multiple chances to do so), i worry that timing is on Iran's side. US military is 1) exhausted from long wars 2) doesnt have money for a war with Iran 3) Soldiers are fatigued and morale is good but not great 3) US public that doesnt want another war, and DEFINITELY not a war with a competent military power like Iran, i am afraid to say that Iran has the real military momentum now. I dont care that US flew in 200 C-17s. The fact is that America doesnt have the troop #s currently to have a serious clash with Iran in place. That is the fact. US at most has 30-50K soldiers ready now and able and US will need at least 200-500KK soldiers for an Iran contingency.

ON A FINAL NOTE, to the crowd that says "Iran and ISIS are allies", you do notice that Russian and Iraqi govt officials both said that SOleimani fought ISIS. If Iran is friends with ISIS then why would an Iranian general be accused of fighting a friend of Iran? make it make sense!! NO LOGIC DETECTED.

Some Pakistanis are trolling on this thread and so is 1 Turkish guy with the eagle in his logo(he is trolling STEALTHILY but hard) but since its not a thread after recent Pakistan-India tensions/conflict, you dont get banned. On that thread, people who were non Pakistani and said anything Pakistanis didnt want to hear then got banned quick. But its all good..the truth will reveal itself completely. Let the chips fall where they may and may the best emerge the victor.

Agree with a lot of things here. Trump is a ruthless business man and he is taking a major risk and upping the pressure in his "Maximum Pressure" strategy against Iran. He may be in a position to make Iran stop its attacks in the immediate term but he has now lost control of the options Iran can exercise now that "they" consider themselves to be a in a state of war with the US. This means that every US killed, be it military or civilian, would be another pressure on Trump, where he will constantly will have to commit resources. Considering he loves to exercises excessive use of force will mean that every time a new act happens, he will have to escalate. It wont take much till it is all out war and then the gloves are off and there will be massive killings. Iran will literally become another Iraq and Syria but the Iranians have been there before i.e. the Iran-Iraq war is subtle reminder on the resilience of the Iranian nation.

The more escalation happens the more resources need to be committed and this will be a long affair, it will be mired by low and high intensity conflict directly involving US assets. The threshold will be very low.

As of now, Iran would be doing the following:
1) Form a resolution on what it want to achieve i.e. a direct goal that strategic and clearly causes pain.
2) It will most likely not respond with high intensity but will force Trumps hand again to escalate. This means there can be clandestine operations in GCC, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. These countries will have to start protecting US citizens a lot more and will have to have their intelligence agencies working effectively. Any US citizen killed in a US-allied soil can only cause the US to huff and puff but would not be able to pin it on Iran. Just like the Saudi Aramco oil refinery attack which was highly overt but there was not much that could happen because the evidence was weak.
3) Making the region unsafe for the US citizens will be the primary objective that would be constant nuance for US policy planners and knee jerk reaction would climb the escalation ladder and Iran would respond accordingly. They will force the US hand to start a conflict eventually.
4) Russia and Chinese engagement will now be highly critical for Iran and they can be asked to help with asymmetric war preparations. Iran will probably prepare to be invaded and attacked and will build its asymmetric warfare capability.
5) Stuff I can not thing about.

The point is, Iran always wanted a dialogue with the US but was conducing operations against "Maximum Pressure" strategy. This is why we see the Trump tweet as a carrot and stick approach but it is now worth thinking whether there is a carrot. The Swiss embassy is busy exchanging words between Iran and the US but no one know what that is.
 
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woow.. some pictures and phone number made for you by your US parents, now everything is so special.. we found an Iranian agent..
By the way where is your 85% story that you're telling for 6 years.

Are you crying that your terrorist was blown up and facing one humiliation after the other for the entire world to see? The reward has nothing to do with Arabs, an Arabic version was just posted which is logical given that Arabic is the lingua franca of Yemen and given that the terrorist rat was hiding in Yemen until he was blown up.

Story as in facts on the ground?

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You better worry about your crippling Willayat al-Faqih Mullah regime that not long ago gunned down 1000 + Iranians like cattle for protesting. Your presence has always, is and always will be unwanted in any Arab country and the traitors, fifth columns, terrorists, proxies and Wilayat al-Faqih Mullah drones will not only be chased out of Arab land but we will burry them alive. Nothing you can do about it other than sit back and watch.

Now by principle I don't give a crap about what non-Arabs have to say about internal Arab affairs, so this will be my last reply to your Mullah filth and crying while based in the Netherlands of all places in the world.:lol: Go fight with your Mullah filth in Iraq, Syria or Yemen, we will help you reach your infallible Mullah in heaven quicker.:lol:

I think many iraqis deserved this miserable you see they will killed the monarchs in savage and brutal way even though they didn't do 10% what the republicans did while they feared saddam who executed and tortured many of then in brutal way yet the didn't dare to revolt against him and drag him in the street even the he was more oppressive than the so called british puppet monarchy. The same goes with Russians who killed the tsar by accusing him of corruption and oppression while living under the Bolsheviks who were worst lol or right now with Iranians under the ayatollah who made the shah's SAVAK amateurs compared to them.

An entire nation let alone people cannot be blamed for the ills of a few uneducated wrongdoers. In the region, when masses revolted, it was always the lowest classes and least educated ones that tended to gain power through sheer brute force, numbers and opportunistic/populist propaganda.

You see the same thing in Iran. All those ruling today, were illiterate peasants not long ago. Hence why their performance has been this pathetically bad despite all the oil, gas and a large population for regional standards that has grown from 20 million not many decades ago, to 80 million nowadays.

It was always easy to convince the illiterate villager, city dweller etc. that those in power "were evil people who are only exploiting you" and make all kind of false promises.

The curse of Iraqi politics and changes in system started with the absurdity that was the 1958 "revolution" indeed and the one behind that, not surprisingly, had the same, even worse, ending just 5 years later. This should have served as a lesson but unfortunately most of the Iraqi elite left after 1958 creating a power vacuum.


That is why it is so important to have a strong, large and educated elite that can shape a nations future and guide it in the right direction and serve as a good example for those climbing the social ladder.
 
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