Black Magic and Islam

[undercover JIX]

@Placemat I humbly request you to stay out, OP asked Muslims to advise him within Muslim Faith. There is no need of your intellectual and out of place comments. You have no Idea what Islamic teachings are. especially on the topic in hand but you are keep going on and on, which is very disrespectful.

and the Muslims who are encouraging him are equally responsible. attitude shows he is not asking questions to learn.

Thank you

 

[undercover JIX]

Ok will stop

Thank you.

 

[War Thunder]

@Placemat I humbly request you to stay out, OP asked Muslims to advise him within Muslim Faith. There is no need of your intellectual and out of place comments. You have no Idea what Islamic teachings are. especially on the topic in hand but you are keep going on and on, which is very disrespectful.

and the Muslims who are encouraging him are equally responsible. attitude shows he is not asking questions to learn.

Thank you

He is disrespectful, or your language is? You are telling him he has no idea on something and at the same time stopping him from clarifying his knowledge of it?
How is that disrespectful? Stay out if some one discussing something bothers you, but at the same time you and I are no one to judge some one's intentions. And shying away from discussion or questions, is the way of ignorance, one of the reasons people don't know what Islam is, and then there are part time supposed Muslims who will have issues if they ask questions.

 

[Placemat]

He is disrespectful, or your language is? You are telling him he has no idea on something and at the same time stopping him from clarifying his knowledge of it?
How is that disrespectful? Stay out if some one discussing something bothers you, but at the same time you and I are no one to judge some one's intentions. And shying away from discussion or questions, is the way of ignorance, one of the reasons people don't know what Islam is, and then there are part time supposed Muslims who will have issues if they ask questions.

Thanks.. I will stop now. There is enough material to self study .. good day to you and lots of love

 

[undercover JIX]

@Placemat @War Thunder

I apologize from both of you, and anyone else who thinks my post was out of place. please continue.

I was wrong.

 

[War Thunder]

Then it's a problem right? That everyone is shirk? Eg if you told me the above verses and I did not convert then you say that I will go to hell. It sounds harsh to me.

If you do me harm, It's upto me whether I forgive you or seek revenge.
It also depends on the nature of the harm or abuse.

People who create gods besides The Creator, worship them, ask them and pray to them, and spend their entire lives doing that. While God still gives them provision, food, shelter, family, love, health.
Is that not a crime against God?
What will you do if you were to create some people, gave them everything, favor upon favor, and in the end they rejected you, followed some one other than you, and rejected all your favors and even your existence?

They have entire lives till their last breath to seek, research, and learn the truth. If they still don't and choose to die in shirk, then that's what God has for them.

I or any other do not have any opinion on this, because the crime is against God, not me or anyone else. We can only pray for their guidance and enlightenment.

It's good to have good manners and be friendly not because of the ulterior motive of conversion but because it's the right thing to do.

Good manners are not required for conversion. If that is the intent then a Muslim is already a failure because our deeds are judged by our intent, not what we did but what was the intention behind it.
We are required to act and behave as if we can see God.
If not then behave as knowing He is watching us.
To be just, kind, honest, compassionate, and forgiving.

I am talking about a Muslim being a proper Muslim, will automatically attract people to Islam without involving in preaching. There is no better person to know or deal with in life or business than a proper Muslim.

 

[Mav3rick]

7 times Surah Falak and Naas. That is it. The Quran has it all. No need for lengthy and generally made up prescriptions.

Wasn't the Holy Prophet (PBUH) put under a spell of dark magic which was undone with the recitation of the 4 Qul's?

 

[War Thunder]

@Placemat @War Thunder

I apologize from both of you, and anyone else who thinks my post was out of place. please continue.

I was wrong.

You don't need to apologize mate.
It's just we should never judge some ones intentions but provide answers where we can, regardless of how hard it is for us. This is a public forum anyway, the same answers can help other people.

Lack of answers and our escapism and judgmental behavior is what has created a huge barrier between the real Islam, and the lack of Islam that exists in our so called Islamic societies.

Either way, you understood and corrected yourself that is a lot better than me, I usually will rather become stubborn and keep arguing lol.

 

[undercover JIX]

You don't need to apologize mate.
It's just we should never judge some ones intentions but provide answers where we can, regardless of how hard it is for us. This is a public forum anyway, the same answers can help other people.

Lack of answers and our escapism and judgmental behavior is what has created a huge barrier between the real Islam, and the lack of Islam that exists in our so called Islamic societies.

Either way, you understood and corrected yourself that is a lot better than me, I usually will rather become stubborn and keep arguing lol.

You please carry on with @Placemat .
Thank you for being nice to me.

 

[Placemat]

You don't need to apologize mate.
It's just we should never judge some ones intentions but provide answers where we can, regardless of how hard it is for us. This is a public forum anyway, the same answers can help other people.

Lack of answers and our escapism and judgmental behavior is what has created a huge barrier between the real Islam, and the lack of Islam that exists in our so called Islamic societies.

Either way, you understood and corrected yourself that is a lot better than me, I usually will rather become stubborn and keep arguing lol.

Sirji.. dont be too nice.. you should also question intentions of people.
Otherwise they sit on your head!!!!

 

[Lincoln]

The correlation between superstition and any religion is false.
Firstly prayer or meditation in any religious thoughts is designed to give your mind peace by accepting things beyond your control.
Black magic or NY other such superstitions are negative events which activates fear in your mind thus making it restless and thoughts of it being evil.
In reality there are things you cannot change and things you can. If there is an unexplained illness it's just that .. there is no solution to it yet.
Prayer can make you at ease and rationalized. Hope things get better for u OP.

These are our beliefs, best not argue on it.

In my personal opinion, one should always exhaust all the immediate options available like Medicine, or Therapy, before coming to the conclusion that it is black magic.

 

[Placemat]

These are our beliefs, best not argue on it.

In my personal opinion, one should always exhaust all the immediate options available like Medicine, or Therapy, before coming to the conclusion that it is black magic.

Fair enough, I am not commenting anymore

 

[War Thunder]

Sirji.. dont be too nice.. you should also question intentions of people.
Otherwise they sit on your head!!!!

I do mate, but not when it comes to discussions or exchange of ideas/knowledge.
As long as I know a person is trying to understand something or there is something to learn for me, I'll be fine with it.
Problem only happens when I see shallow folk trying to engage in a completely irrelevant and meaningless discussion.
I'm an introvert, I hate everything that is done without meaning or purpose.

 

[Placemat]

I do mate, but not when it comes to discussions or exchange of ideas/knowledge.
As long as I know a person is trying to understand something or there is something to learn for me, I'll be fine with it.
Problem only happens when I see shallow folk trying to engage in a completely irrelevant and meaningless discussion.
I'm an introvert, I hate everything that is done without meaning or purpose.

Best way to describe a quality of an introvert I have heard

 

[War Thunder]

I think there is no black magic. Islam cannot help with such things and neither can other political thoughts.
Please see a good doctor for causes and remediation.
You can meditate though. It will give your mind some peace.

Being a person whose been actively involved with Wiccan communities and groups and have seen spells being cast and affects that follow.
I think you are being taken for a ride here by the so called science, which many a folk have been nowadays.

Black Magic is real, it's taught, practiced, and it affects people.

We are not a physical body and a brain added to it.
We are spiritual beings, and we are constantly dealing with frequencies that affects us spiritually. If you are convinced that your existence is only on the physical level and what you see and touch is all there is, then you think too low of yourself.