Black Magic and Islam

[Fawadqasim1]

Wow I didn't know we had such esteemed Islamic scholars on PDF. U must have arrived at this conclusion after years of thorough study.

Absolutely

 

[Rusty]

There is way to test or predict.. tu 40 din ka chilla kaat lay bhai..


Yup..it was just play of words..

I'm not here to convince you of Science.
The nice thing about science is that it's true, even if you don't believe it.

I will say, I find it interesting that people like you disregard science but then will go see a doctor

Doctors work on scientific principles.

Here is my challenge.
Next time you get sick, truly sick, don't go to the doctor. Instead stay home and pray.
That should not be a problem right?

1) please read hume for cause and effect.
2)please read my first post in this thread i have advised him to shake his belief in magic haven't i so

and scientific method has its limits you can't apply it blindly to everything e.g subjective qualities or qualia

1. Will do
2. Not arguing, just having a friendly discussion.

Limits?

Scientific method can be applied to everything that exists in this universe.

Even subjective things, it's called psychology

 

[fisher1]

I'm not here to convince you of Science.
The nice thing about science is that it's true, even if you don't believe it.

I will say, I find it interesting that people like you disregard science but then will go see a doctor

Doctors work on scientific principles.

Here is my challenge.
Next time you get sick, truly sick, don't go to the doctor. Instead stay home and pray.
That should not be a problem right?



1. Will do
2. Not arguing, just having a friendly discussion.

Limits?

Scientific method can be applied to everything that exists in this universe.

Even subjective things, it's called psychology

Can science be applied to soul or soul doesn't exist in this universe?

Can science be applied to life? Or life doesn't exist in this universe?

The religion of science has its limitations, doesn't it?

 

[Placemat]

Wow I didn't know we had such esteemed Islamic scholars on PDF. U must have arrived at this conclusion after years of thorough study.

If islam acknowledges presence of superstitions like black magic maybe it can help

 

[JonAsad]

I'm not here to convince you of Science.
The nice thing about science is that it's true, even if you don't believe it.

I will say, I find it interesting that people like you disregard science but then will go see a doctor

Doctors work on scientific principles.

Here is my challenge.
Next time you get sick, truly sick, don't go to the doctor. Instead stay home and pray.
That should not be a problem right?

Great since i disagree with you over something over the internet i must be a primitive mind with no knowledge or faith on science . While you on other hand the true believer of science have attained immortality have traveled the milky way and established colonies and dominance over primitive minds like mine and aliens alike.
I suggest you die and come back with proof that life after death doesn't exist or soul is just our imaginary construction .. On the other hand let me try getting truly sick and visiting no doctor. Fair?

 

[Placemat]

Can science be applied to soul or soul doesn't exist in this universe?

Can science be applied to life? Or life doesn't exist in this universe?

The religion of science has its limitations, doesn't it?

Yes science is limited to what is undiscovered. What we dont know about we can say anything . That's what religion does by means of faith.

 

[Cookie Monster]

If islam acknowledges presence of superstitions like black magic maybe it can help

Switching stances so quickly? Just a few posts ago u said Islam couldn't help.

Also what's with the IF Islam acknowledges black magic? Do u not know if Islam addresses this topic? Just a few minutes ago u were passing ur judgement as if u were an expert on the matter.

 

[Rusty]

Great since i disagree with you over something over the internet i must be a primitive mind with no knowledge of faith or science. While you on other hand the true believer of science have attained immortality have traveled the milky way and established dominance over primitive minds like mine.
I suggest you die and come back with proof that life after death doesn't exist or soul is just our imaginary construction .. On the other hand let me try getting truly sick and visiting no doctor. Fair?

Why are you so angry?
Why does the thought of people not agreeing with you make you so mad?
Your denial of Science does not make me angry, we are just having a fun conversation.

You know, being angry at others does not make you right, right?

Let's reset.
There is no evidence in my life that makes me think ghosts are real.
If they were why are we not using them to our advantage?

 

[Placemat]

Switching stances so quickly? Just a few posts ago u said Islam couldn't help.

Also what's with the IF Islam acknowledges black magic? Do u not know if Islam addresses this topic? Just a few minutes ago u were passing ur judgement as if u were an expert on the matter.

Did not change my stance. I know islam cannot help with black magic because black magic does not exist. It's not atopic of islam but black magic.

Why are you so angry?
Why does the thought of people not agreeing with you make you so mad?
Your denial of Science does not make me angry, we are just having a fun conversation.

You know, being angry at others does not make you right, right?

Let's reset.
There is no evidence in my life that makes me think ghosts are real.
If they were why are we not using them to our advantage?

Ghosts are fear of our mind. You maybe fearless.

 

[Rusty]

Can science be applied to soul or soul doesn't exist in this universe?

Can science be applied to life? Or life doesn't exist in this universe?

The religion of science has its limitations, doesn't it?

Same challenge, next time you get seriously sick, stay at home and pray.


You know I've given that challenge to so many science deniers, not a single one will accept it


When your health is on line them "faith" quickly takes a back seat.

 

[shining eyes]

hahaha,,,

Since we are at it, who knows what forces are yet to be unveiled by science?

We are yet to explore thousands of stars and planets...

Btw, science is like an always expanding bubble - never complete.

 

[Placemat]

Same challenge, next time you get seriously sick, stay at home and pray.


You know I've given that challenge to so many science deniers, not a single one will accept it


When your health is on line them "faith" quickly takes a back seat.

Like you mentioned earlier , since psychology is a science then faith can be tied to one aspect of the psyche and become a science if channelled properly via mental exercise and meditation. It's a reality that your mind is clouded or at peace. I thinks all of us have experienced it. Our target is to have mental peace and faith may just help with it.

 

[Rusty]

Like you mentioned earlier , since psychology is a science then faith can be tied to one aspect of the psyche and become a science if channelled properly via mental exercise and meditation. It's a reality that your mind is clouded or at peace. I thinks all of us have experienced it. Our target is to have mental peace and faith may just help with it.

Faith is certainly part of psychology. Every culture on earth has created faith in supernatural beings.

Really interesting part of our mind and the human experience.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I'm not here to convince you of Science.
The nice thing about science is that it's true, even if you don't believe it.

I will say, I find it interesting that people like you disregard science but then will go see a doctor

Doctors work on scientific principles.

Here is my challenge.
Next time you get sick, truly sick, don't go to the doctor. Instead stay home and pray.
That should not be a problem right?



1. Will do
2. Not arguing, just having a friendly discussion.

Limits?

Scientific method can be applied to everything that exists in this universe.

Even subjective things, it's called psychology

Really it's a revelation for me please study
The limitations of inductive inquiry and also can science deal with why questions does science give you absolute facts or just (best approximations in State of knowledge which can change with time) and i am not talking about observations e.g the earth is round its an observation is psychology an exact science can it show you how i feel when (i) eat ice cream exactly don't take it seriously bro it's just chit chat.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Did not change my stance. I know islam cannot help with black magic

If islam acknowledges presence of superstitions like black magic maybe it can help

I think there is no black magic. Islam cannot help with such things