Black Magic and Islam

[Placemat]

Being a person whose been actively involved with Wiccan communities and groups and have seen spells being cast and affects that follow.
I think you are being taken for a ride here by the so called science, which many a folk have been nowadays.

Black Magic is real, it's taught, practiced, and it affects people.

We are not a physical body and a brain added to it.
We are spiritual beings, and we are constantly dealing with frequencies that affects us spiritually. If you are convinced that your existence is only on the physical level and what you see and touch is all there is, then you think too low of yourself.

Please PM me if possible.. better to take this offline

 

[War Thunder]

The correlation between superstition and any religion is false.
Firstly prayer or meditation in any religious thoughts is designed to give your mind peace by accepting things beyond your control.
Black magic or NY other such superstitions are negative events which activates fear in your mind thus making it restless and thoughts of it being evil.
In reality there are things you cannot change and things you can. If there is an unexplained illness it's just that .. there is no solution to it yet.
Prayer can make you at ease and rationalized. Hope things get better for u OP.

How will you describe when you see animal blood on your floor while no animal was hurt in your house?
When you come across animal bones in or outside your home while you never had anything to do with them?
When you are suffering from symptoms that seem to be some common illness but no doctor or medication seems to help?

It's superstition for every one till they get affected by it, and the above are some of the symptoms of having been affected by black magic.

It's often a brain defense mechanism to reject things that our brain has not come to witness yet, but we need to be open minded and believe in possibilities instead of holding on to absolutes of our own rationale being the only description there is, until and unless we are completely convinced.

Forget magic and everything else. I'll tell you an easy way to challenge your own perspective here.

Do some research on Astral Projection and Out of Body Experience.
And try achieving one, its not that hard.
You won't ever be the same person if you actually do.


P.S: Now I also see why you are receiving a lot of flak in the thread, I thought it was your questions but its actually this holding on to your pre conceived absolutes which make you look completely close minded and a glass full kind of person lol
Work on that mate.

 

[Placemat]

How will you describe when you see animal blood on your floor while no animal was hurt in your house?
When you come across animal bones in or outside your home while you never had anything to do with them?
When you are suffering from symptoms that seem to be some common illness but no doctor or medication seems to help?

It's superstition for every one till they get affected by it, and the above are some of the symptoms of having been affected by black magic.

It's often a brain defense mechanism to reject things that our brain has not come to witness yet, but we need to be open minded and believe in possibilities instead of holding on to absolutes of our own rationale being the only description there is, until and unless we are completely convinced.

Forget magic and everything else. I'll tell you an easy way to challenge your own perspective here.

Do some research on Astral Projection and Out of Body Experience.
And try achieving one, its not that hard.
You won't ever be the same person if you actually do.


P.S: Now I also see why you are receiving a lot of flak in the thread, I thought it was your questions but its actually this holding on to your pre conceived absolutes which make you look completely close minded and a glass full kind of person lol
Work on that mate.

Maybe. Which is why I am open to spiritualism ... until now I havent experienced this but does noy mean is not there

 

[War Thunder]

Please PM me if possible.. better to take this offline

Sure mate feel free to PM.
But remember, the difference between something being referred to as superstition and reality is often the knowledge and experience of it or not having either

 

[Placemat]

How will you describe when you see animal blood on your floor while no animal was hurt in your house?
When you come across animal bones in or outside your home while you never had anything to do with them?
When you are suffering from symptoms that seem to be some common illness but no doctor or medication seems to help?

It's superstition for every one till they get affected by it, and the above are some of the symptoms of having been affected by black magic.

It's often a brain defense mechanism to reject things that our brain has not come to witness yet, but we need to be open minded and believe in possibilities instead of holding on to absolutes of our own rationale being the only description there is, until and unless we are completely convinced.

Forget magic and everything else. I'll tell you an easy way to challenge your own perspective here.

Do some research on Astral Projection and Out of Body Experience.
And try achieving one, its not that hard.
You won't ever be the same person if you actually do.


P.S: Now I also see why you are receiving a lot of flak in the thread, I thought it was your questions but its actually this holding on to your pre conceived absolutes which make you look completely close minded and a glass full kind of person lol
Work on that mate.

I desperately need something to happen in 3 months else it's useless.. I came on this site and I got a help. Now I need the second help. Is it possible. I see this site as a spiritual connection now .

 

[Mav3rick]

Same challenge, next time you get seriously sick, stay at home and pray.


You know I've given that challenge to so many science deniers, not a single one will accept it


When your health is on line them "faith" quickly takes a back seat.

I guess the reason that, in your opinion, so many so called 'science deniers' have refused your challenge is that nobody really 'denies' science; rather it is your limitation wherein you believe only things which science has been able to prove, so far, and do not have the creativity to give benefit of doubt where Science has not reached or hasn't reached the full potential.

Had you been born a couple of centuries ago, you may not believe in matter. Perhaps, if you were born in the early parts of the last century you may not believe in electrons etc., and would believe atoms to be the smallest building blocks of matter.......but that too would be your limitation to accept that there may a lot be out there which Science cannot yet explain.

Basically, if you deny something because you cannot fathom it, it does not mean that the thing does not exist.

 

[Rusty]

I guess the reason that, in your opinion, so many so called 'science deniers' have refused your challenge is that nobody really 'denies' science; rather it is your limitation wherein you believe only things which science has been able to prove, so far, and do not have the creativity to give benefit of doubt where Science has not reached or hasn't reached the full potential.

Had you been born a couple of centuries ago, you may not believe in matter. Perhaps, if you were born in the early parts of the last century you may not believe in electrons etc., and would believe atoms to be the smallest building blocks of matter.......but that too would be your limitation to accept that there may a lot be out there which Science cannot yet explain.

Basically, if you deny something because you cannot fathom it, it does not mean that the thing does not exist.

Right now, there is an invisible unicorn sitting on your desk.
If you don't believe me it's because you can't fathom it and doesn't mean there is no invisible unicorn sitting on your desk.

please try to grasp and understand the concept of qualia can firing of neurons and production of various chemicals explain consciousness self consciousness intelligence subjective qualia appreciation is brain generator of all of these phenomena or just a receptor like a radio set or a television has science answered the above mentioned questions and if it has are those answers based on empirical data
isn't there a cacophony in scientific circles on the above mentioned problems?

The nice things about Science is that we don't pretend to know what we don't know.

We do know that consciousness is the result of all the chemical reactions happening in our brains.
How?
We do not know that yet.

No shame is not knowing.

 

[cocomo]

Surah Al Falak and Al-Nas are called "The two protectors" against evil eye and casting of spells. Qurtabi says that these verses were revealed when some Jewish women tried to put a spell on Prophet (PBHU) by tying knots on a string. Surrah Al Falak mentions that.
"
Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak
....
And from the evil of the blowers in knots
"
Qurtabi says that Prophet then sent Imam Ali (as) to a well where that string was hid and told him to whisper the fourteen verses onto the string to undo the fourteen-knot spell.

 

[Rusty]

Calling you names? When? Where?
Must be the closet insecurities coming out over a post that went above you r head.. These sciency guys are sometimes so touchy and so declarey like suddenly declaring me not believing in science at all since i disagreed on something you said.
Any ho
A lot of scientific discoveries didn't have a lot of use when they were discovered other than the knowledge of it.. You reject black magic and ghosts since science is yet to discover these things. Don't get left behind when science do.
And i am sure later science will find a way to use ghosts to lift people of Pakistan out of poverty and slums.. Electricity.. Like every household in Pakistan have it..

Sometimes I don't understand Analogies or its the people making them. Maybe both

why are people of "faith" always the most delusional?
I now have to convince you that you are name calling, yet a mulla easily convinces you people to blow yourself up.

And what utter nonsense.

The transition from discovering electricity to making it the foundation of our modern society was less then a hundred years.

Humans have been talking about ghosts for 200,000 years and yet it has only been science that has improved human life.

again, why are you so scared to take my doctor challenge?
Why do you only believe in science when it will reduce your pain and suffering?
Has a ghost ever reduced your pain and suffering?

 

[fisher1]

Yes science is limited to what is undiscovered. What we dont know about we can say anything . That's what religion does by means of faith.

So then, why are you acting like an authority on something your idol (science) has no clue about?

You're clueless about something Islam speaks about as an authority and still have the audacity to tell it's wrong.

Same challenge, next time you get seriously sick, stay at home and pray.


You know I've given that challenge to so many science deniers, not a single one will accept it


When your health is on line them "faith" quickly takes a back seat.

You didn't answer my question.

And your question is moronic and based on ignorance of Islam. Something every critic of Islam is - an ignorant moron.

Islam orders me to take action while also praying for help from Allah.

Islam tells me to seek guidance from people of knowledge.

If i stay at home and pray without going to a doctor, I'll be going against the orders of Islam.

Islam isn't blind faith. Islam orders you to research the creation of Allah which is what science does. Islam orders you to be scientific. By being scientific, you're being Islamic.

Anyway, i have something better to do and not in mood to argue with clueless condescending atheists about Islam.

You don't believe in magic, perhaps you should **** off instead of trolling in the thread. At the very least you should get some knowledge about Islam instead of asking condescending ignorant questions like stay home and don't go to doctor.

 

[Rusty]

So then, why are you acting like an authority on something your idol (science) has no clue about?

You're clueless about something Islam speaks about as an authority and still have the audacity to tell it's wrong.



You didn't answer my question.

And your question is moronic and based on ignorance of Islam. Something every critic of Islam is - an ignorant moron.

Islam orders me to take action while also praying for help from Allah.

Islam tells me to seek guidance from people of knowledge.

If i stay at home and pray without going to a doctor, I'll be going against the orders of Islam.

Islam isn't blind faith. Islam orders you to research the creation of Allah which is what science does. Islam orders you to be scientific. By being scientific, you're being Islamic.

Anyway, i have something better to do and not in mood to argue with clueless condescending atheists about Islam.

You don't believe in magic, perhaps you should **** off instead of trolling in the thread. At the very least you should get some knowledge about Islam instead of asking condescending ignorant questions like stay home and don't go to doctor.

What was your question?

And I'm well aware of my religion.
I'm just criticizing science deniars as they clearly don't understand science or the modern world.

And after your tirade you rage quit. Good job.
Swearing and yelling is exactly how the prophet would want you to behave.

(Side note, why does the idea of atheism make you people so angry?)

 

[El Sidd]

Religious discussions are not allowed. This forum rule has been reiterated almost daily here.

I implore the members to follow forum rules.

Thanks.

 

[Placemat]

Religious discussions are not allowed. This forum rule has been reiterated almost daily here.

I implore the members to follow forum rules.

Thanks.

I stopped long ago