Bibi's speech to the UN (video and text)

[BLACKEAGLE]

Have you considered that if KSA publicly announced it was permitting Israel to station aircraft on its territory the shock would be enough to get the mullahs to terminate their bomb program, and that way nothing would have to be bombed at all?

KSA sent a perfectly clear message that it will down any Israeli jet enters it's airspace. That was a year ago.

 

[Surenas]

KSA sent a perfectly clear message the it will down any Israeli jet enter it's airspace. That was a year ago.

Those 'official' statements are worthless. Luckily Wikileaks proved the real intentions of KSA.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Those 'official' statements are worthless. Luckily Wikileaks proved the real intentions of KSA.

KSA is not Iran babbling all day and night, when they say sth they mean it.

 

[Mosamania]

BehAve and stay on topic or I will start banning people.

 

[Pakistanisage]

What a Moron....

 

[Banu Umayyah]

So technically, you are suggesting that Saudis who have more advanced air force than Israel are too coward to handle the attack themselves, and yet call for Israelis to do it for them from KSA?
That's shameful to ally the country that detest you, the country that has been prosecuting your brothers for 60 years and more importantly occupy the third most sacred place for Muslims, Al-Aqsa mosque...

Lets be realistic, Saudi air force is no where near as advanced as Israeli air force. Its not about bravery or cowardly, its about capability or lack thereof. There have been reports questioning if the US itself is able to totally destroy Iranian heavily fortified nuclear facilites without nukes or land invasion, because of the lack of a strong enough conventional bomb, so why assume we can?
Also, have you heard the phrase the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Simply put, Israel poses no serious threat to Saudi national security, since we don't have a border dispute or a border for that matter with them. Iran on the other hand, we are already in war with them, and the battleground is Syria, Lebanon and Yemen, so yes I have absolutely no problem with Israel attacking Iran, In fact I think it should be a triple assault: US, SA and Israel. Either way, we will be dragged to this war whether we like it or not, might as well choose teams. You deal with your problems by urgency, nuclear Iran is an emergency.

 

[Banu Umayyah]

Have you considered that if KSA publicly announced it was permitting Israel to station aircraft on its territory the shock would be enough to get the mullahs to terminate their bomb program, and that way nothing would have to be bombed at all?

If it was that easy we would have done it already I presume. But at this point, Iranians won't stop enriching uranium until it starts raining bombs.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Lets be realistic, Saudi air force is no where near as advanced as Israeli air force. Its not about bravery or cowardly, its about capability or lack thereof. There have been reports questioning if the US itself is able to totally destroy Iranian heavily fortified nuclear facilites without nukes or land invasion, because of the lack of a strong enough conventional bomb why assume we can?
Also, have you heard the phrase the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Simply put, Israel poses no serious threat to Saudi national security, since we don't have a border dispute or a border for that matter with them. Iran on the other hand, we are already in war with them, and the battleground is Syria, Lebanon and Yemen, so yes I have absolutely no problem with Israel attacking Iran, In fact I think it should be a triple assault: US, SA and Israel. Either way, we will be dragged to this war whether we like it or not, might as well choose teams. You deal with your problems by urgency, nuclear Iran is an emergency.

USA over exaggerates it's enemies power to justify using disproportionate force against them. Maybe, one bunker buster bomb isn't enough to destroy a very protected stationary target, but with the new state of the art guidance systems, you can hit one point with as much guided bombs as you want. And KSA does have them in huge numbers. Former chief of UAE airforce said in a speech that GCC airforces are able to destroy AT LEAST 11000 targets anywhere in Iran every week.

I don't care either if they destroy each other, but it's wrong to say Israel is your friend just like that, it has destructive repercussions on KSA. I understand that if Israel attacked Iran, Iran would respond by attacking GCC countries, but let them do it first anyway. You have to understand that you MUST not trust Israelis ever.

 

[Banu Umayyah]

USA over exaggerates it's enemies power to justify using disproportionate force against them. Maybe, one bunker buster bomb isn't enough to destroy a very protected stationary target, but with the new state of the art guidance systems, you can hit one point with as much guided bombs as you want. And KSA does have them in huge numbers. Former chief of UAE airforce said in a speech that GCC airforces are able to destroy AT LEAST 11000 targets anywhere in Iran every week.

I don't care either if they destroy each other, but it's wrong to say Israel is your friend just like that, it has destructive repercussions on KSA. I understand that if Israel attacked Iran, Iran would respond by attacking GCC countries, but let them do it first anyway. You have to understand that you MUST not trust Israelis ever.

I never said I consider Israel as a friend nation. And why would we wait until we are attacked if you know the attack is coming? That does't make sense to me.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I never said I consider Israel as a friend nation. And why would we wait until we are attacked if you know the attack is coming? That does't make sense to me.

They will attack you first, sooner or later, whether Israel attacked or not. It's not like they would invade GCC by surprise, they would launch missiles that do not pose a real physical destruction but rather a psychological one that would disrupt investments and oil supplies at most, as such conventional weapons have CEP varies between 700-1500 m. However, the counter attack would throw Iran back to stone ages.

 

[Arabian Legend]

KSA can publicly offer to host Israeli strike aircraft, making the value choice that the threat from a nuclear Iran is greater than the threat posed to the Middle East by Israel. The political impact would be immense - possibly devastating.

I agree with that. Specially because Iran made it clear that she will retaliate by striking our oil facilities even if Israel carried out the attack alone. So either case we will get dragged to war. But than again, our government has always been reactionary and never takes initiatives. Why we still have diplomatic relations with them is beyond me.

Although Saudi society is very conservative, Saudi Arabia's kings can be very skilled at applying the Koran, hadiths, and history to supporting new and previously unimaginable innovations, ranging from television broadcasting to hosting U.S. troops on Saudi soil. However Number Six, King Abdullah, has a personal hang-up when it comes to relations with Zionists. Jews he will deal with but not avowed Zionists. Maybe if Israel promised its planes would be manned by anti-Zionist Jews, do you think that would make him feel better?

I really doubt that our government will take this zionist factor into consideration if they made up the decision to allow Israeli fighters. I also doubt that the government even cares about that and king Abdullah's decision are made 95% by his advisors. Not surprising for a 85 year old semi-illiterate man.
The most likely reason is US objection IMO. I can't imagine us orchestrating something like this with Israel behind the US, specially since we have no diplomatic relations. Qatar would be a much more likely host, since the previously had diplomatic relations with Israel before the Gaza war. But all of this is very unlikely, since any attack would almost necessarily involve the US which renderes this collaboration unnecessary.

Well, its no secret most Saudis favour an Israeli strike against Iran. If the only way to do that is by having Israeli fighters stationed in SA then by all means...

So technically, you are suggesting that Saudis who have more advanced air force than Israel are too coward to handle the attack themselves, and yet call for Israelis to do it for them from KSA?
That's shameful to ally the country that detest you, the country that has been prosecuting your brothers for 60 years and more importantly occupy the third most sacred place for Muslims, Al-Aqsa mosque...

Have you considered that if KSA publicly announced it was permitting Israel to station aircraft on its territory the shock would be enough to get the mullahs to terminate their bomb program, and that way nothing would have to be bombed at all?

I never said I consider Israel as a friend nation. And why would we wait until we are attacked if you know the attack is coming? That does't make sense to me.

In fact yes Iran is seen as greater threat than Israel and, I agree an Israeli strike against Iran falls under KSA's interests. However, Saudi rejects to be part of this scenario but still indirectly pushing for a strike over Iran.

should Saudi Arabia facilitate an Israeli attack over iran?


I don't think it is a geo-strategic issue that requires Saudi involvement as the US can guarantee military access to places like Iraq and Afghanistan, Azerbaijan could also be part of the equation.

 

[Bhairava]

So basically he is saying no one is going to do anything about Iran. Funny how they keep pushing the red line further and further in to the future. Also, he is saying "Iran, by this rate of enrichment, you are going to be bombed by the summer of 2014". meaning?
Meaning you idiots better get your act together and have the first bomb ready by then to avoid getting bombed.
lol, either Israeli intelligence is supremely stupid or they are bluffing. Might as well give them the exact time, date and location of the strike while you're at it.

Love the Saudis....if you want to attack Iran why dont you go ahead ? Why sit on the shoulders of the Israelis... ? Afraid of Iran ?

KSA can publicly offer to host Israeli strike aircraft, making the value choice that the threat from a nuclear Iran is greater than the threat posed to the Middle East by Israel. The political impact would be immense - possibly devastating.

Ooops..the Joo and the Arbi plotting to take on the Irani.

Muslim brotherhood zindabad...:



<sarcasm>

 

[Banu Umayyah]

Love the Saudis....if you want to attack Iran why dont you go ahead ? Why sit on the shoulders of the Israelis... ? Afraid of Iran ?



Ooops..the Joo and the Arbi plotting to take on the Irani.

Muslim brotherhood zindabad...:



<sarcasm>

Israel together with the US seem very eager to fight Iran on our behalf. No need to stop them, we should sit back and enjoy the show. What ever happens, we win. As usual

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

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My dear Saudi brothers,

You can't always speak out what you think is right, sometimes, it's better to keep it to yourselves as not all people know what we know and understand the real situation between Arabs and Iran with all it's complexities, historical, religious, geographic and political bifurcations that we have been living their implications for decades and even centuries which have peaked to the highest level in history for the last 33 years and still going on.

 

[Mosamania]

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