Bangladesh’s Sonadia Port Dilemma: Is the US Navy the Answer?

[Kaniska]

You are saying it from the Indian perspective. Compromise with India? I think that's what we have been doing for the last 43 years and in return got nothing but India's interference on our internal matter. Besides, having the strategic location, we need to fully utilize our capability as a middle power. What if Myanmar allows a Chinese or American base? And terrorist targets! We don't see South Korea, Japan being terrorist targets.

If you are suggesting US base won't be effective then the only option remains China. USA won't remain the sole super power in near future and with the rise of China we are gong to witness a multipolar world, which means China and US will have more or less equal weight.

There is a fundamental inaccuracy in your assuption...First of all India if also interfering in your affair as per your statement, will be only doing to make sure no terrorist use your nation to come to India....Otherwise, India should not have any interest with BD...And your second assumption wrt Burma is too much fictitious...Come on dude...Burma is still struggling to be coming out of its shadow of milirary power....It might have issue with its internal disturbances why it will attack you...This is just an illusion you are creating...

The good part of BD is that it does not belong to any camp...So you have oppertunity to allign with big powers like US,Japan,Singapore,SK,China and EU economically rather than getting into their military allignent...Get the best deal out of every one but do not join to one league...

 

[kalu_miah]

There is a fundamental inaccuracy in your assuption...First of all India if also interfering in your affair as per your statement, will be only doing to make sure no terrorist use your nation to come to India....Otherwise, India should not have any interest with BD...And your second assumption wrt Burma is too much fictitious...Come on dude...Burma is still struggling to be coming out of its shadow of milirary power....It might have issue with its internal disturbances why it will attack you...This is just an illusion you are creating...

The good part of BD is that it does not belong to any camp...So you have oppertunity to allign with big powers like US,Japan,Singapore,SK,China and EU economically rather than getting into their military allignent...Get the best deal out of every one but do not join to one league...

The only terrorist we had so far in Bangladesh JMB and HuJi are both rumored to be creation of RAW, so it is obvious who is working behind the scenes to prove Bangladesh to be terrorist den.

India is interfering in internal affairs of Bangladesh, with Indian support Hasina and Awami League would probably not last weeks in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh will prioritize the D-8 bloc of countries for its strategic security:
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[dray]

BANSAM hobey'ee. BANSAM Zindabad.

Osob korte gele BANSH na hoye jay!!

 

[ExtraOdinary]

Still trying to hard prove themselves relevant, wonder what's new in lallu's plan to sell the country to China, U.S, Martians etc. to escape from hindooo hegemony

 

[asad71]

Osob korte gele BANSH na hoye jay!!

Ektu shahosh kortey hoi. Naholey apnara Bangla bhuley jaben. Bansh amra kheyesee 1947'e jokhon obangalee'ra desh bhag korlo. Suhrowardy ebong Sarat Bose kisu kortey parlen'na. Shaheed Sirajuddawla'r rajyao pete hobe'ee.

 

[Roybot]

Hindu's lack grey matter, its genetic and related to their vegetarian diet. You are wasting your time.

@WebMaster @Aeronaut @Chak Bamu , can we do something about this bigotry?

 

[Chak Bamu]

Please everyone be civil and refrain from using objectionable language.

 

[GR!FF!N]

What elections?U mean jan 5 circus? Can a parliament where 154 seats go uncontested and 1/2 the pop. is striped of its voting right be termed elected? I would love to see such a regime in India to see the reaction of 2 faced hypocrites like u.

we've seen such an election.about Circus,its BD's circus.don't drag us into it.the fun and the glory of it is yours alone to bear.

U seem to have good contacts with JI leaders.

@IamBengali bro,you there??post the pic please..

She became PM via democratically acceptable means through process and institution that her rival Hasina put forth. While hasina destroyed all those institutions and the way she is staying in power post- jan 5 even beats ME dictator despots.

now that reply simply showed why we call you guys "Jamaati"(according to the definition in my previous post)..by the way,do you really believe this $h!t you've posted??

Any ruling party in India have power to interfere in BD as they have been doing 43 years. Or is it that your elected leaders have no writ over what your foreign ministry/RAW does in other countries. If that's the case India seem to fit in the definition of a rogue state.

even if it is true,that means your leaders are nothing but chut!y@ who sold there country.don't blame us when you guys chose Chut!y@$ to run your country.

By that definition India is a country of a billion jamatis.

nah bro.we have some basic difference from Jamaatis.we don't believe in false propaganda and we kick our leaders out after we feel we don't need them anymore,apart from not calling our Political and Justice System a "Sttoge of Foreign Power".but Jamaatis know no bound of ignorance.you guys simply don't know your rant about Armed Force,Justice System and Election Commission is making your country look like a failed state.

U r right but u see most of these 2 faced hypocrites r hindutva militant extremist supporters and they have the audacity to call us names. Which party we support shouldn't be a matter for them. These indians r bigots of the highest order. That hindtuva @GR!FF!N was whining abt how BD doesn't "compromise" with India like bhutan and nepal.

Hindutva Griffin??

 

[dray]

Ektu shahosh kortey hoi. Naholey apnara Bangla bhuley jaben. Bansh amra kheyesee 1947'e jokhon obangalee'ra desh bhag korlo. Suhrowardy ebong Sarat Bose kisu kortey parlen'na. Shaheed Sirajuddawla'r rajyao pete hobe'ee.

Bangla amra bhulbo na, kintu Bangladeshe Bangla kotodin thake se niye amar jothestoi chinta ache, apnara jebhabe Urdu, Arabic, ar Farsi -r preme porechen, kokhono Bangla lipi paltate chaichen to kokhono bhashatai "Hidur bhasha" bole fele dite chaichen, tate ar dui-tin doshoker modhye Bangladeshe Bangla ek aprocholito bhashay porinoto holeo ascharya hobo na.

Ar deshbhag ta obangalira koreni, apnara korechilen, sotyi kotha bolte ki apnader utsaho paschimer Pakistanider thekeo beshi chilo, deshbhager samay obangalira Bangalider mareni, apnara merechilen, apnader cheye amader desher obangalira amader kache onek beshi apon.

 

[asad71]

Bangla amra bhulbo na, kintu Bangladeshe Bangla kotodin thake se niye amar jothestoi chinta ache, apnara jebhabe Urdu, Arabic, ar Farsi -r preme porechen, kokhono Bangla lipi paltate chaichen to kokhono bhashatai "Hidur bhasha" bole fele dite chaichen, tate ar dui-tin doshoker modhye Bangladeshe Bangla ek aprocholito bhashay porinoto holeo ascharya hobo na.

Ar deshbhag ta obangalira koreni, apnara korechilen, sotyi kotha bolte ki apnader utsaho paschimer Pakistanider thekeo beshi chilo, deshbhager samay obangalira Bangalider mareni, apnara merechilen, apnader cheye amader desher obangalira amader kache onek beshi apon.

Eyishomosto rubbish kothai pan? Ekhaney kono Urdu'r chacha nai. P/bangla otakey state language baneyesey. Kolkata ba P/banglay Bangla uthey jachhey. Robi Thakur ke cheneyee na. Banglabhasha, Banglair oitijho o' kristi amra dhore rekhesi.

 

[dray]

Eyishomosto rubbish kothai pan? Ekhaney kono Urdu'r chacha nai. P/bangla otakey state language baneyesey. Kolkata ba P/banglay Bangla uthey jachhey. Robi Thakur ke cheneyee na. Banglabhasha, Banglair oitijho o' kristi amra dhore rekhesi.

Apnar dyasher lokjan roj ekhane nanarokomer thread khuilya kokhono Robi Thakure galagali diya tare tar boipatra somet Bangoposagore falaiya dey, kokhono Bangla lekha Urdu ba Arabic lipi te likhte chay, kokhono koy Banglabhasha "Hidur bhasha", oi bhasha feilya Urdu ke rashtrobhasha kora hok, nidenpokshe Bangla bhashay prochur Urdu ar Farsi shabdo dhukaiya tare "Musalmani Bangla" kora hok, oneke to Bhasha Shohid der heyo korse, parle tader opogondo boilya gali dey, onek Bangladeshi-e ekhane Bangali oitijho ke ghrina kore, karon ote naki Hinduyani beshi. Esob ami ekhane dekhsi, apnader kach thekei dekhsi, bolen jodi to thread gula ekhane post koirya dimu.

Kolkata somet gota Paschimbanga Bangla tei kotha koy, Robi Thakureo amrai mathay koira rakhsi, amago adhunik Bangla sahityo-o besh uchudorer, o niya apnare chinta korte hoibo na.

 

[asad71]

Apnar dyasher lokjan roj ekhane nanarokomer thread khuilya kokhono Robi Thakure galagali diya tare tar boipatra somet Bangoposagore falaiya dey, kokhono Bangla lekha Urdu ba Arabic lipi te likhte chay, kokhono koy Banglabhasha "Hidur bhasha", oi bhasha feilya Urdu ke rashtrobhasha kora hok, nidenpokshe Bangla bhashay prochur Urdu ar Farsi shabdo dhukaiya tare "Musalmani Bangla" kora hok, oneke to Bhasha Shohid der heyo korse, parle tader opogondo boilya gali dey, onek Bangladeshi-e ekhane Bangali oitijho ke ghrina kore, karon ote naki Hinduyani beshi. Esob ami ekhane dekhsi, apnader kach thekei dekhsi, bolen jodi to thread gula ekhane post koirya dimu.

Kolkata somet gota Paschimbanga Bangla tei kotha koy, Robi Thakureo amrai mathay koira rakhsi, amago adhunik Bangla sahityo-o besh uchudorer, o niya apnare chinta korte hoibo na.

Dunnowhere do you pick up these nonsense. All are totally incorrect. Come and visit BD, be my guest and see for yourself.

 

[extra terrestrial]

forgot financial aid,free electricity and other free goodies??that was just tip of it.one request,do you guys have something in the line of RTI??then why don't you guys ask your govt about it??you're living in a democracy,not some autocracy.but you guys rather live happily choosing propaganda than the truth.

financial aid? are you talking about that $1bn credit? The conditions for that loan are even more vicious than IMF. Free electricity? when? and what other "free" " goodies"?

We are living in a quasi-democracy!

Bhutan and Nepal were not dependent on India for Sea Ports only.Afghanistan is land locked too.how much it depends on Pakistan or Iran??you should study more about Friendship treaties with these countries.and we need Bangladesh more than Bangladesh needs us??how long it was before we started these transits??1 year may be??Bangladesh is here for 43 years.

If not sea ports than what? trade? Even here, Bangladesh is not in the same line.

Afghanistan is landlocked but with a strategic position. They won't be dependent on anyone since both Iran and Pakistan can provide sea access that will serve Afghanistan with an alternate option.

Not only transit. Despite its vast military resources, India has to seek Bangladesh's assistance to curb the separatist movements in its North East, something which is entirely an internal issue of India.

more lies bro.why don't BD proves it??It was India who alerted BD about coup.and now,make a stand.who was then Indian Stooge??BDR??Army??or Govt??because,your fellow members accuse all of them for Indian Stooge.

There are enough evidence provided, even in PDF, here is one: Proof of india behind Bangladesh's hill track conflict

India alerted about BDR mutiny? Any source?

Guess what??all of them are..but unlike BD,those bases aren't too close to another adversary.what is these "Extremist" shit??just created by some state to fight a proxy war.China has a history of supporting them.plus,the situation of BD is more ideal to flourish extremism.the environment is already there.

They are close to Iran, an adversary to both the Arabs and US.

You have simply no clue about the situation here, I would recommend to skip Indian media when studying about Bangladesh.

aint those US scholars predicted Japan would cross USA and will become Economic Superpower??always remember,these scholars chant according to the government and to create fear among neighbours.guess what,

Japan is already an economic superpower anyway!

China is nowhere near a great power,no foreign military base,no "reliable allies" like Russia had,but their opposing block is already being placed.

Well, China is already a great power and on its way to be a super power. They don't have any foreign military base because of their non-interventionist policies which goes with their current national demands. However, they do have a strategic vision and that's what actually counts!

no power can't grow further if they can't solve their differences with neighbour.if Mexico or Canada was USA's Enemy,USA probably couldn't project their power across the world as then their aim would have to counter these states.

True that.

in one hand,you're accusing your country's leadership as Indian stooge,and yet expecting them to handle far greater powers like US and China??

I'm definitely not expecting the current leadership to handle them. I was talking about the ideal situation.

 

[extra terrestrial]

There is a fundamental inaccuracy in your assuption...First of all India if also interfering in your affair as per your statement, will be only doing to make sure no terrorist use your nation to come to India....Otherwise, India should not have any interest with BD

Well, that's what we call the hegemonic attitude and it's just an excuse to practice that hegemony. There are no such evidence that proves those "terrorists" are state sponsored, if a group cunningly enters with some fake documentations, builds a camp in a remote village or inside a jungle, they won't be caught easily anyway. Besides, talking about promoting terrorism, India has also been involved in supporting terrorist outfits against Bangladesh, see the link in my earlier post.

.And your second assumption wrt Burma is too much fictitious...Come on dude...Burma is still struggling to be coming out of its shadow of milirary power....It might have issue with its internal disturbances why it will attack you...This is just an illusion you are creating...

As I said earlier, nobody has any clue about their nuclear program, the latest NSA report in 2012 was that Burma has just "partially allayed" the concerns about possible NPT violation. They are also believed to have Scud C from North Korea. Moreover, they have a habit of adventurism.

The good part of BD is that it does not belong to any camp...So you have oppertunity to allign with big powers like US,Japan,Singapore,SK,China and EU economically rather than getting into their military allignent...Get the best deal out of every one but do not join to one league...

Ain't we already aligned with them economically?Besides, who says joining an alliance would sever the economic ties with any of these countries? The lack of a military alliance is serving no purpose.

 

[eastwatch]

BD should study the results of bringing foreign powers to use their soil for their "Dirty Work".many of our neighbours tried,with results not so impeccable.plus,a foreign military base,be it USA,China or any other,it'd make BD a terrorist target.plus,nullifying neighbour's influence using a foreign power never bear the intended fruit as Foreign powers will come and go,the neighbour will stay.

the best bid is to make compromise with neighbour.forget about India.Giving the base to USA will make China unhappy as now,USA will get a foothold near China and US' new friend,Myanmar.that base will surely going to be used against China.Giving the base to China will make USA unhappy,which will see it as a move of undoing what they're trying to do to contain PLAN activity within First Island Chain.plus,bringing USN to nullify India's effect probably not going to happen as both IN and USN are co operating this region to counter PLAN.

1) You are talking only to promote Indian interest in mind. I think, power play anywhere in the world is all like an Othello game. Here in the BoB, I can see the USA, China, India and BD all are playing this game and outdo others.

2) US presence there is both against and for India/China with a weak BD being played as a pawn in that game. USA wants a China presence in the Bay only to finger point it to India that the latter cannot probably cope with the power of PLAN alone. But, which country to get the maximum benefit out of a three power game? I think, it is BD itself with no cost to bear by itself.

3) USA may also be using the naval buildup by India in its east coast by hinting at China that a limited US presence is needed to avoid a naval show down in the Bay, because this will secure China's sea route through Indian Ocean and Malakka Strait.

4) Who knows, China also welcomes a limited US presence in the Bay, because then it can avoid a possible showdown with the IN's growing naval movement.

5) BD's international sea routes will be more secured with the presence of both PLAN and US Navy.

6) By the way, have people noticed a news that the ConocoPhillips of the USA has discovered natural gas in its two blocks in the Bay? It is between 5 to 7 trillion cft of gas reserve. So, US presence there is inevitable whatever may be the arrangement with BD. Open the link below to read activities of U oil companies in the BoB.

Deep Sea Gas | US firm for revised deal | 5-7tcf prospect with only 17pc chance of success; $3-5b investment required