Bangladesh Building Frigates with Chinese help - Indian Defence Magazine

[TOPGUN]

Good news for BD good for them and glad that the "CHINESE" are helping them

 

[Water Car Engineer]

What made you troll here?

On topic: these are 6th 7th generation craft and out of Indian league. You can take our Royal Navy Frigates that we are decomissioing soon. That will give you some idea of how technologically advanced ship operates.

Thanks.

Please do not make fun of your own poor and technologically backward country, India just for the sake of trolling.

Excuse me, this is almost kinda cute.. You most not know...


Here are the upcoming ships being made in India. Excluding the AC, large land crafts, patrol ships, etc, etc.

3 Stealth Destoryers, out of 6.

2 Complete Stealth Frigates, out of 7.

INS Kamorta ASW Corvette, out of 8.

One of the few countries to build a nuclear powered SSBN. 4 more to go..

 

[Areesh]

Why are we comparing IN with BN? Pathetic.

 

[Black Widow]

India has its hands full with building ships for the Indian Navy which would take years to complete. All available resources are being harnessed and concentrated for completing these projects on time. So don't blame the politicians.

And so what if China is helping BD in ship construction? Why are you so alarmed at China helping BD? Even India does not appear to be averse to a greater Chinese role in its own infrastructure development, including building of power plants or high-speed rail networks. With the Indian government planning to spend around $1 trillion on infrastructure projects, India will like China to play an important role in this sector over the next few years, according to well-placed sources.

Chinese companies have already completed and are in the process of executing infrastructure projects worth $40 billion in India! Already active in sectors like power, telecom and roads, Chinese companies are often seen to outbid competition in cost and duration, sometimes completing projects in record time unlike Indian counterparts!

So what's the big deal in China assisting BD in ship building for half a billion dollars? C'mon man, its high time you start looking at the bigger picture and not get paranoid at any Chinese help here. Now go get some fresh air and coffee to relieve yourself of utter panic that seems to have engulfed you!!

I am among Very few Indian members Who are Pro Bangladesh. So please don't post with prejudice. I am not alarmed with Chinese help to BD. I am just saying that Indian govt could have look it as opportunity to make money and better the relation btwn Indo-BD. I Agree with your part that Indian ship building Industry is pre equipped with internal demand. I can take this point...

I am pleased to hear (from you) that India is working in BD in different sectors. Expanding business at neighboring countries is easy and it will bring love and harmony to the relation.

 

[Black Widow]

Please do not make fun of your own poor and technologically backward country, India just for the sake of trolling. It is not enjoyable. Please stick to the topic if you are not jealous of Bangladesh.

You know brother , I am bihari and you are bengali. If I stand with you no one can say we two are different family. If I say I am your brother, any one can believe. We look same, we behave same, we are same... Then why would I be jealous of you????

I was on topic. My point was simple "Its good that BD is growing, But it would be good for us if we (Indian) could have participated in it. We could have made some money."

May be we are poor in technology, but trust me we can make the warship what you need. I am sure that you won't need something equivalent to Nimitz class...

 

[Roybot]

Indian shipyards are struggling to meet Indian Navy and Coast guards demand, we can't possibly think of exports just yet. Besides Indian Navy is a rival navy in Bay of Bengal for Bangladesh Navy. So it doesn't make sense for BN to acquire ships from India.

Lets not digress anymore.

 

[Imran Khan]

why you indians doing same in each and every thread ? i think this act should be punish with permanent BAN . any country buy or made something you guys bring your whole inventory for look good? now this beautiful thread is messed up with tons of indian navy images .

and mods?where are you guys never seen a mod since last 15 days .

 

[eastwatch]

1) You know brother , I am bihari and you are bengali. If I stand with you no one can say we two are different family. If I say I am your brother, any one can believe. We look same, we behave same, we are same... Then why would I be jealous of you????

2) I was on topic. My point was simple "Its good that BD is growing, But it would be good for us if we (Indian) could have participated in it. We could have made some money."

3) May be we are poor in technology, but trust me we can make the warship what you need. I am sure that you won't need something equivalent to Nimitz class...

1) I accept that Bangalis and Biharis are ethnical same or similar.

2) Thanks for saying that you are happy BD is growing. But, you were not on topic. BD never bought weapons from India after the 1971 war. Probably a few insignificant weapons were pushed forcibly through our throat at some time, I am not sure about it. People do not just trust India. This includes AL and its leadership. So, there is no question that we suddely buy any weapons or ships from Indian source. Note that neighbouring countries are POTENTIAL enemies unless they have the same value system.

3) There is no reason to buy ships from India when India itself procures naval ships from other countries. India is a neighbouring country that has encircled BD with 300,000 troops. Our military do not regard India as a friend. So, we cannot buy ships or any weapons from India.

 

[kobiraaz]

Subsequently, Bangladesh’s Parliamentary Standing Committee in June 2009 agreed in principle to approve a 10-year force modernisation programme (known as the ‘deterrent force’ and to be fully realised by 2021), under which the Bangladesh Navy would acquire two stealthy FFGs, seven guided-missile corvettes, three large OPVs equipped with helicopter decks, 12 maritime patrol craft, one diesel-electric submarine, two landing craft (utility), two hydrographic survey ships, one salvage vessel, five coastal IPVs, and new-generation anti-ship cruise missiles (Otomat Mk2 Block 4 from MBDA and C-802A from CPMIEC) and short-range air-defence systems (FN-90N) for installation on board the Navy’s existing FFGs — BNS Osman and BNS Bangabandhu.

The Bangladesh Navy in future is expected to replace its three existing ex-Royal Navy frigates (BNS Abu Bakar, BNS Ali Haider and BNS Umar Farooq) with three new-generation FFGs to be provided by CSOC. Each such FFG will have a displacement of 1,500 tonnes, length of 97 metres, beamwidth of 10.90 metres, and a maximum speed of 30 Knots.
The FFG will also be able to accommodate a medium-twin shipborne helicopter like the Z-9C, and will be armed with a 76mm main gun, up to 30 vertically-launched 35km-range air-defence missiles, twin triple-torpedo launch tubes, and four C-802A anti-ship cruise-missiles.

As of April,2010 the rapid modernization program of BN involves order of:

2x F-22B guided missile frigate (China),
2x 600 ton large patrol craft/missile corvette (China),
1x Hydrographic Survey ship (Indigenous),
1x Fleet Replenishment Oil Tanker (Indigenous),
2x LCU (Indigenous),
1x Salvage ship (Indigenous),
12x Patrol boats -Indigenous,
3x Harbin Z-9C Anti-Submarine helicopter (China),
C-802 ASM missiles for 3 frigate and 4 missile boats (China),
FM-90N SAM for 3 frigates (China) - already fitted onboard BNS BANGABANDHU.
2x Dornier 228 NG MPA (Germany) - contract signed on 23 June 2011.
2x guided missile corvette (Tender won by China)

On discussion:

3x guided missile frigates in addition to the couple ordered from China,
New generation of light and heavy Torpedoes (EU + China),
3x Submarine (Turkey / Germany / South Korea).

yeah! If the indian report is true..........it means we are getting 5 frigates which will be added to our existing 2... means 7 deadly beast by 2019 to guard funnel shaped bay of bengal!

1. BNS Khaled Bin Walid (ulsan) [ 103 m long, 2370 ton, otomat mk2 blck 4 , fm-90n ]

2. BNS Osman (type 053H) [ 103 m long, 1700 ton, C-802-A, fm-90n ]

3. BNS XX ( F22B ) [ 123 m , 2500 ton, C-802, fm-90n ]

4. BNS XX ( F22B ) [ 123 m , 2500 ton, C-802, fm-90n ]

5. BNS XX ( unknown) [ 97 m, 1500 ton, c-802A, HQ-16]

6.BNS XX ( unknown) [ 97 m, 1500 ton, c-802A, HQ-16]

7.BNS XX ( unknown) [ 97 m, 1500 ton, c-802A, HQ-16]

 

[Roybot]

^^ This Indian "defence journalist" is notorious for making sh*t up all the time. Zero credibility.

 

[Zarvan]

The news below was published a few months ago. But, since it is an Indian magazine I am posting it here. Note that our newspapers and magazines are not allowed to publish any kind of detailed defence procurements. Usually, they publish only piecemeal news. So, we have to go to foreign sources.

-Eastwatch-


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FEATURE/REPORT
Industrial Embrace
Khulna Shipyard signs a contract for five IPV and seven guided-missile corvettes with CSOC
By Prasun K. Sengupta

Bangladesh’s state-owned Khulna Shipyard recently signed a contract with China’s Shanghai-based Hudong Zhonghua Shipyard and the China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Ltd (CSOC) for licence-building five inshore patrol vessels (IPV) and seven guided-missile corvettes. While the IPVs are based on the 80-tonne Huang Pu-class vessel, the guided-missile corvettes, to be built to a brand-new design, will each have a displacement of 260 tonnes, length of 46 metres, beamwidth of 7.4 metres, and have a top speed of 30 Knots.

While the CSOC will supply the first two guided-missile corvettes off-the-shelf, the remaining five will be licence-built by Khulna Shipyard. Each such vessel will be armed with up to four CPMIEC-built C-802A anti-ship cruise missiles. The IPVs will each have a length of 27.5 metres, beamwidth of 5.5 metres, and a maximum speed of 18 Knots. On-board armaments will comprise twin 14.5mm machine guns. For navigational purposes, one I-band Type 347G mast-mounted radar will be installed on each IPV. The combat information centre (CIC) for the FFGs and guided-missile corvettes will be supplied by CETC International.

It may be recalled that Dhaka had announced an ambitious force modernisation plan in February 2009 for its armed forces, which included the procurement of anti-armour guided-missiles and anti-ship cruise missiles, up to four medium-range maritime patrol aircraft, two guided-missile frigates (FFG), a regiment of NORINCO-built Type 96G main battle tanks, and two CATIC-supplied Z-9C shipborne helicopters.

Subsequently, Bangladesh’s Parliamentary Standing Committee in June 2009 agreed in principle to approve a 10-year force modernisation programme (known as the ‘deterrent force’ and to be fully realised by 2021), under which the Bangladesh Navy would acquire two stealthy FFGs, seven guided-missile corvettes, three large OPVs equipped with helicopter decks, 12 maritime patrol craft, one diesel-electric submarine, two landing craft (utility), two hydrographic survey ships, one salvage vessel, five coastal IPVs, and new-generation anti-ship cruise missiles (Otomat Mk2 Block 4 from MBDA and C-802A from CPMIEC) and short-range air-defence systems (FN-90N) for installation on board the Navy’s existing FFGs — BNS Osman and BNS Bangabandhu.

The Bangladesh Navy in future is expected to replace its three existing ex-Royal Navy frigates (BNS Abu Bakar, BNS Ali Haider and BNS Umar Farooq) with three new-generation FFGs to be provided by CSOC. Each such FFG will have a displacement of 1,500 tonnes, length of 97 metres, beamwidth of 10.90 metres, and a maximum speed of 30 Knots.

The FFG will also be able to accommodate a medium-twin shipborne helicopter like the Z-9C, and will be armed with a 76mm main gun, up to 30 vertically-launched 35km-range air-defence missiles, twin triple-torpedo launch tubes, and four C-802A anti-ship cruise-missiles. It is believed that the Pakistan Navy too has evinced interest in acquiring three such stealthy FFGs, with contract negotiations with CSOC now reported to be in progress.

Meanwhile, the Pakistan Navy’s Vice Admiral Tanveer Faiz Ahmed on March 1 laid the keel of the first of two Type 022 Hobei-class fast attack craft FACs on order at China’s Xinggang Shipyard in Tianjin. The Type 022 Hobei-class catamarans, which have been mass-produced since 2002 by up to four Chinese shipyards (Xinggang Shipyard in Tianjin, Quixin and Jiangnan shipyards in Shanghai, Huangpu Shipyard in Guangzhou, and at Dalian Shipyard), were jointly designed by Australia-based AMD Marine Consulting and Guangzhou-based Sea Bus International.

The vessels, capable of attaining a top speed of 38 Knots, feature a wave-piercing catamaran hull design known as small waterplane area twin hull (SWATH), which becomes very stable even on choppy seas. The bulk of the displacement necessary to keep the catamaran afloat is located beneath the waves, where it is less affected by wave action, as wave excitation drops exponentially with depth. The Type 022 Hobei-class catamaran has a full-load displacement of 224 tonnes, length of 42.6 metres, beamwidth of 12.2 metres, draught of 1.5 metres, and a crew complement of 12.

The propulsion system comprises twin diesel engines each rated at 6,865hp (5,119kW) and driving four KAMEWA waterjet propulsors. The armaments package comprises four CPMIEC-built YJ-83 (C-802A) anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCM) housed in two large stern-mounted missile launchers, one bridge-mounted FLS-1 surface-to-air missile launcher along with 12 QW-2 missiles, and one KBP-designed AO-18 six-barrel 30mm gun.

Bangladesh should have at least 16 Major Warships and 8 Submarines and also some Missile Boats so the can tackle any threat specially the Indian increasing threat and Bangladesh should also go for more high tech War Planes and should have at least 450 of them and Bangladesh should also go for latest MBTS should have them in huge numbers in short Bangladesh need to increase its defence capabilities in great number

 

[Zabaniyah]

The Indians bragging about their navy again? LMAO...

 

[Black Widow]

1) I accept that Bangalis and Biharis are ethnical same or similar.

2) Thanks for saying that you are happy BD is growing. But, you were not on topic. BD never bought weapons from India after the 1971 war. Probably a few insignificant weapons were pushed forcibly through our throat at some time, I am not sure about it. People do not just trust India. This includes AL and its leadership. So, there is no question that we suddely buy any weapons or ships from Indian source. Note that neighbouring countries are POTENTIAL enemies unless they have the same value system.

3) There is no reason to buy ships from India when India itself procures naval ships from other countries. India is a neighbouring country that has encircled BD with 300,000 troops. Our military do not regard India as a friend. So, we cannot buy ships or any weapons from India.

1. Thanks you agreed to my first point.

2. I agree that our relation is not that great. If I become PM or foreign minister I will definitely focus on Indo-BD relation. I want it to be like US-Canada. Free border and friendship.

3. I agree with your point, As one of my frnd mentioned that Indian Docks are preoccupied with Indian Demands, they can not take further orders. (It doesn't means that we can't make ships )

 

[TopCat]

Bangladesh should have at least 16 Major Warships and 8 Submarines and also some Missile Boats so the can tackle any threat specially the Indian increasing threat and Bangladesh should also go for more high tech War Planes and should have at least 450 of them and Bangladesh should also go for latest MBTS should have them in huge numbers in short Bangladesh need to increase its defence capabilities in great number

We are getting there my friend, slowly but surely.

I am very worried about our Air Force, without that you cant tackle any threat from India. Also we need to change our defence tactics from guerilla warefare and fight in our own land instead take that to enemies territory. I dont want 1971 repeatation where human loss was extremely high. As we are small country, to take the war to enemies territory will work as strategic advantage considering the fact we already colonized most of the adjoiining areas of our border with our own kind and the process will continue in the years to come.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

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