Bangladesh Air Force

[BlindEagle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508323000747241477

abal force prioritising helos of all things.

Motherchod will send them to UN to gain back the money spent on these and then somehow not be able to explain where it went

Air ই তো বেশি নাই। ছোট জায়গা। Force দিয়া কি করবে?

সুপারসোনিক প্লেন এ দুই মিনিটে পার হয়ে যাওয়া যায়।

What we need more is sophisticated and accurate Ground-to-Air missiles (stinger and larger types), land-based CWIS rotary cannon (C-RAM equivalents) with proximity fuse rounds as well as the ToT to make them locally to be self-sufficient in these technologies. We can make the leap now and bypass intermediate steps. These are defensive technologies, should have an easier time getting ToT. The Missile stuff is in flight with China already.

OTOH, we also need maritime strike fighters to launch Exocet type air-to-surface missiles to hit ships to break blockages.

Air defence missiles systems shouldn’t be the sole priority, they can always be overloaded and bypassed. Right now if india or Burma decides to conduct an air strike we don’t even have enough planes activated for 15 minute scramble order at all times.

 

[BlindEagle]

After seeing this video, I’m skeptical about bd pursuing EFT instead of rafale. We can’t get a platform that can only do air superiority missions especially because our airforce is small

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

After seeing this video, I’m skeptical about bd pursuing EFT instead of rafale. We can’t get a platform that can only do air superiority missions especially because our airforce is small

French only care about money , they dont put restrictions like Germany or UK.

they gave scalpe (560km range stealth cruise missile) to egypt despite being an MTCR member and isreali protests.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Motherchod will send them to UN to gain back the money spent on these and then somehow not be able to explain where it went

Aha now i see the urgency to buy helos. it all makes sense now

 

[leonblack08]

Motherchod will send them to UN to gain back the money spent on these and then somehow not be able to explain where it went

The money will go to building new convention halls, where VIPs can host weddings and invite Sunny Leon.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

The money will go to building new convention halls, where VIPs can host weddings and invite Sunny Leon.

the money will drive up the house prices in Canada if you know what i'm saying

might as well call it the ''Canadian Enrichment Scheme''

 

[UKBengali]

True, BAF have been talking of getting a 4.5th Gen fighter for 10 years now, in my opinion though I think that would be a mistake. To defend Bangladeshi skies from an intruder (from Myanamar or India) the flight times are so short and air space so small it may make a quick reaction alert unfeasable, the fighters may not get up in time, also India and others can easily strike BAF airfields from the safety of their own air space as Bangladesh is a relatively small country. What could a Typhoon/Gripen/Rafale realistically achieve? Unless you hade 4-6 on constant CAP during crisis which would be expensive and require a force of at least 36 planes.

I think a better solution would be to create a formidable air defence network which would make any attack very expensive for the aggressor, this could include anti cruise/ballistic missile defences. Concentrate just 5 high powered 3D radars (1 for each corner of the country and 1 for the coast) combine with either HQ-9, S-400 or THAAD, then during crisis you will have coverage over much of India and Myanamar, simply blow everything that moves out of the sky if anyone tries anything.

All the above can be supported with low/medium level SAMs such as HQ-16/Pantsir/Iron Dome for local defence of vital assets.

All the above will be cheaper and more effective then a few planes you can get in the air in time and also give any attacker a very big headache.

Few things to note:


1. BD is actually not that small compared to other countries that have dozens if not over a hundred fighters in their airforce.

2. Having 4-6 planes in the air at any one time would not be a big deal for a country of BD's size in terms of economy. BD can well afford many dozens of planes with it's economy. It is a question of political will more than anything.

3. Fighters are far more flexible in terms of employment as in they can also bomb the enemy.


I agree that BD needs to also work on a multi-layered air-defence network consisting of short, medium and long-range SAMs. The FM-90 already fulfils the short-range SAM and BD should now move into creating a robust country-wide SAM network based on mainly medium with some long-range SAMs.

 

[Yasser76]

Few things to note:


1. BD is actually not that small compared to other countries that have dozens if not over a hundred fighters in their airforce.

2. Having 4-6 planes in the air at any one time would not be a big deal for a country of BD's size in terms of economy. BD can well afford many dozens of planes with it's economy. It is a question of political will more than anything.

3. Fighters are far more flexible in terms of employment as in they can also bomb the enemy.


I agree that BD needs to also work on a multi-layered air-defence network consisting of short, medium and long-range SAMs. The FM-90 already fulfils the short-range SAM and BD should now move into creating a robust country-wide SAM network based on mainly medium with some long-range SAMs.

Can you name me a country BD's size that has over 100 fighters?

BD is actually almost totally surrounded by India so the geography angle is even more difficult, a small nation almost surrounded by another, any country in these circumstances would be hard pressed to react in time. A more proactive approach would be a high altitide SAM that the enemy knew was constantly tracking them once they flew near BD rather then a passive approach of fighter CAPS that can be surprised very quickly from any direction.

to keep one plane in the air constantly you need 3 planes. 1 in the air, 1 getting ready to fly up and replace it and one getting repaired/refueled, also keep in mind at anytime a fighter can develop a malfunction so you need to add an mergency reserve. To keep 6 fighters in the air constantly you will need 40 fighters MINIMUM, 2 squadrons of high end jets.

 

[UKBengali]

Can you name me a country BD's size that has over 100 fighters?

BD is actually almost totally surrounded by India so the geography angle is even more difficult, a small nation almost surrounded by another, any country in these circumstances would be hard pressed to react in time. A more proactive approach would be a high altitide SAM that the enemy knew was constantly tracking them once they flew near BD rather then a passive approach of fighter CAPS that can be surprised very quickly from any direction.

to keep one plane in the air constantly you need 3 planes. 1 in the air, 1 getting ready to fly up and replace it and one getting repaired/refueled, also keep in mind at anytime a fighter can develop a malfunction so you need to add an mergency reserve. To keep 6 fighters in the air constantly you will need 40 fighters MINIMUM, 2 squadrons of high end jets.

Lots.

South Korea and Taiwan are just two examples.

BD is in a dangerous neighbourhood and so should ideally go for 150-200 fighters.

BD’s economy can easily afford these number of jets over a 10-15 year buildup + the SAM network as well.

 

[Avicenna]

Can you name me a country BD's size that has over 100 fighters?

BD is actually almost totally surrounded by India so the geography angle is even more difficult, a small nation almost surrounded by another, any country in these circumstances would be hard pressed to react in time. A more proactive approach would be a high altitide SAM that the enemy knew was constantly tracking them once they flew near BD rather then a passive approach of fighter CAPS that can be surprised very quickly from any direction.

to keep one plane in the air constantly you need 3 planes. 1 in the air, 1 getting ready to fly up and replace it and one getting repaired/refueled, also keep in mind at anytime a fighter can develop a malfunction so you need to add an mergency reserve. To keep 6 fighters in the air constantly you will need 40 fighters MINIMUM, 2 squadrons of high end jets.

Republic of Singapore Air Force - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Singapore is an extreme example.

TINY city state.

Enormous and capable Air Force.

Bangladesh's main issue is the lack of political will.

 

[Yasser76]

Lots.

South Korea and Taiwan are just two examples.

BD is in a dangerous neighbourhood and so should ideally go for 150-200 fighters.

BD’s economy can easily afford these number of jets over a 10-15 year buildup + the SAM network as well.

150-200 fighters will only represent massive targets for the enemy, Singapore, Taiwain etc have at least some distance from their enemies, BD will have little. In modern war the reactions times will be measured possibly in seconds, if you are luck in minutes. A heavily integrated and layered SAM system will provide instant response.

 

[UKBengali]

150-200 fighters will only represent massive targets for the enemy, Singapore, Taiwain etc have at least some distance from their enemies, BD will have little. In modern war the reactions times will be measured possibly in seconds, if you are luck in minutes. A heavily integrated and layered SAM system will provide instant response.

Incorrect.

Taiwan has China less than 100 miles away and the Chinese have the world's largest arsenal of ballistic and probably cruise missiles. They also have MLRS with ranges of many hundreds of kms and so well able to hit any part of Taiwan from mainland China.

Singapore has absolutely zero depth as it is a tiny city state smaller than a typical large city and is surrounded by both Malaysia and Indonesia with MLRS that they can rain down rockets on Singapore.

BD needs to be smart and build hardened shelters and they can also build underground hangars for planes. Both the Sylhet Hills and Chittagong Hill Tracts are ideal locations for building underground shelters due to their geography.

It is not as easy to destroy an airforce on the ground as you imagine. Look at how Russia has been totally unable to even seriously degrade the Ukrainian airforce on the ground. Forget about 1967 war in ME as Arabs are totally incompetent in military matters.

BD is expected to have an economy more than 1 trillion US dollars by the end of this decade and keep growing fast after this time, so there is no reason that BD cannot build a relatively large and capable air force.

 

[BlindEagle]

Aha now i see the urgency to buy helos. it all makes sense now

Explain please

Can you name me a country BD's size that has over 100 fighters?

BD is actually almost totally surrounded by India so the geography angle is even more difficult, a small nation almost surrounded by another, any country in these circumstances would be hard pressed to react in time. A more proactive approach would be a high altitide SAM that the enemy knew was constantly tracking them once they flew near BD rather then a passive approach of fighter CAPS that can be surprised very quickly from any direction.

to keep one plane in the air constantly you need 3 planes. 1 in the air, 1 getting ready to fly up and replace it and one getting repaired/refueled, also keep in mind at anytime a fighter can develop a malfunction so you need to add an mergency reserve. To keep 6 fighters in the air constantly you will need 40 fighters MINIMUM, 2 squadrons of high end jets.

Indian territory may surround us but have you looked up strategic military installations that’s a threat to bd? There’s practically no threat up north and in the east.

Also to answer to your question of country that’s sized like bd but has hundreds of fighters, I’ll give you example of smaller nations, Singapore, Israel, South Korea, Taiwan

French only care about money , they dont put restrictions like Germany or UK.

they gave scalpe (560km range stealth cruise missile) to egypt despite being an MTCR member and isreali protests.
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That was a very good deal then

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Explain please

basically your point that BAF is going to use these helos in UN missions and make some money.

BAF justifies this by saying that geopolitical changes in the region require BAF to purchase attack helos, There are more important things (MRCA , MRSAM+ Frigates ) that require the goverment's attention rather than stupid helos which will be of no use in air war without proper air support.

BAF probably knows that gov wont respond to requests for funding MRCA , so they made this stupid request who tf knows anymore.

 

[Avicenna]

BAF is a basketcase.

Facts.