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and yet china buys russian aerospace products to improve its own designs
there are plans even to buy su57 now.... perhaps it was designed by the chinese and bought by the russians according to your thoughts?

not saying china is inferior... in fact superior in any fields like cyberspace... aerospace is still a field china is not superior to russia... maybe on par with russia nowadays but not superior


Just a Russian report that China will buy SU-57.
I would be extremely surprised if this happens.
 
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In short, if China doesn't buy Su-35, it is also OK to China.

yea China dosent NEED the Su-35 in 2019 if thats what your saying.

its astonishing the rise of chinese military aviation in the last 25 years.

no question.

i have been an avid follower since the mid 90's visiting hui tongs website several times a day.

but there are still things China lags behind in.

most notably the engines.

but i am sure that gap will be closed as time goes on.
 
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yea China dosent NEED the Su-35 in 2019 if thats what your saying.

its astonishing the rise of chinese military aviation in the last 25 years.

no question.

i have been an avid follower since the mid 90's visiting hui tongs website several times a day.

but there are still things China lags behind in.

most notably the engines.

but i am sure that gap will be closed as time goes on.
I didn't say China is the best in world.

The challenges China faces are from USA, not Russia, and China still has a lot to do.
 
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I didn't say China is the best in world.

The challenges China faces are from USA, not Russia, and China still has a lot to do.

Yes I agree.

The big game for the foreseeable future is between China and the US.
 
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The 4.5th-generation heavyweight fighter that China needs is not just like Su-35, but much better than Su-35, specially with better radar, avionics, and ammunition. China is interested in some subsystems of Su-35. That is why China buys Su-35 to save time.
 
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The 4.5th-generation heavyweight fighter that China needs is not just like Su-35, but much better than Su-35, specially with better radar, avionics, and ammunition. China is interested in some subsystems of Su-35. That is why China buys Su-35 to save time.

What is your thoughts on J-11D?
 
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What is your thoughts on J-11D?
It is 5th-generation fighter era now. Is it too late to develop a new 4.5-generation heavyweight air-superiority fighter, while J-20 is ready at that moment?
 
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It is 5th-generation fighter era now. Is it too late to develop a new 4.5-generation heavyweight air-superiority fighter, while J-20 is ready at that moment?

You will need a mix of 5 and 4.5.

USAF is going to start buying F-15 variant new builds again.
 
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You will need a mix of 5 and 4.5.

USAF is going to start buying F-15 variant new builds again.
F-15X is used for multirole, and J-16 is doing that job.
J-11D is mainly for air superiority, similar to Su-35.
 
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F-15X is used for multirole, and J-16 is doing that job.
J-11D is mainly for air superiority, similar to Su-35.

Not true.

F-15X is intended to replace legacy F-15C.

This is the air to air role.

If anything I would say Su-35, J-11D, and F-15X are analagous.

Acutally comparing the 3 may be relevant in comparing the three nations abilities.
 
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Not true.

F-15X is intended to replace legacy F-15C.

This is the air to air role.

If anything I would say Su-35, J-11D, and F-15X are analagous.

Acutally comparing the 3 may be relevant in comparing the three nations abilities.
If USA uses F-15X for air to air role, China will be very happy.
 
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Keep twidling your thumbs BAF.

Time is ticking.

Others are active.
 
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In air-combat exercises, PLAAF has found that J-10C and J-16 mean nothing to J-20.

Yea but similarly F-35 and F-22 are superior to F-15 and F-16.

We wont really know until things turn hot how it will all turn out.
 
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