Baluchistan Interior minister threaten to expel Afghan refugees by force.

[Khan_21]

I can also speak Urdu....by 'Urdufied' i meant those who adopted the culture and ways of Urdu and gave up on Pashtun one. Also I know about some Pashtun couples in Islamabad and Karachi, who impose Urdu on their small kids (talk with them in only Urdu) even though Husband and wife speak their mother tongue Pashto with each other. For example there was this Khattak couple from karak who were speaking Pashto with each other, but their kids were speaking Urdu. The Khattak proudly told me that Pashto is a useless and backward language, so they have decided that their kids should not learn Pashto but only Urdu. I told that turd the importance of mother tongue , and reminded him that in Pakistan, its English not Urdu, which is considered as sign of progress and class.....that turd was of course a nalaiq one and was not good with English

And who told you i am urdufied ? Urdu and Pashto are both equally important for me . I don't place one above the other . If that couple adopted urdu ways how is that suppose to be bad? Urdu is our Language language and a unifying force . Ethnic Lines are not more important for me than my national identity . Both must go along side by side while not compromising on our national identity . Let me show you 2 pictures .

This is your capital Kabul . Divided on ethnic lines , stuck in medieval age and resisting anything that is moderate and modern . In short mentality of the people has made it like this . Even our towns have a better view than this .

This is Islamabad . My capital . One of the best planned Cities in the world . People are open to moderate ideas , People go along nicely with each other and there are rarely ethnic tensions . Islamabad would have been Kabul if everyone there had the same mentality as yours .

 

[Samandri]

Unfortunately individuals like @Samandri, are part of Pakistans problem. Yes I accept tribal culture is part of our social fabric and very important to me as well, but it should not compromise our national identity and unity.
And Mr.Samandri it was a patloon wearing, 'urdu speaking' pakistani expat who came back and helped build our nuclear program MR.AQK; which has kept us safe.
This is the exact reason why Pakistan will out perform Afghanistan, we have learned to come together as a unified country, while Afghanistan is still torn between the tribal system. Our Prophet(SAW) warned us to end tribal division amongst the Ummah.

These Patloon, Jeans, underwear are not suitable in climate of Pakistan.....this a western influence. Also you cant offer prayers in tight jeans.

I have a simple question for you.....Is an Achakzai of Spin Boldak (Afghanistan) a Kafir and evil creature that Achakzai of Chaman (Pakistan) is supposed to hate? . Quran tell us that humans are divided into tribes and nations for purpose of identity. Islam refrained us from racial superiority mindset, not from tribal organizations and nationhood. All the Arabs in the time of Prophet were living in a tribal society, and tribal identity and kinship was recognized norm.

 

[Khan_21]

These Patloon, Jeans, underwear are not suitable in climate of Pakistan.....this a western influence. Also you cant offer prayers in tight jeans.

I have a simple question for you.....Is an Achakzai of Spin Boldak (Afghanistan) a Kafir and evil creature that Achakzai of Chaman (Pakistan) is supposed to hate? . Quran tell us that humans are divided into tribes and nations for purpose of identity. Islam refrained us from racial superiority mindset, not from tribal organizations and nationhood. All the Arabs in the time of Prophet were living in a tribal society, and tribal identity and kinship was recognized norm.

There are people offering prayers in jeans in kaaba . what are you even smoking . What does Quran say about people you give home to for 40 years , give them food and in return they are ungrateful ?

 

[Samandri]

This is Islamabad . My capital . One of the best planned Cities in the world . People are open to moderate ideas , People go along nicely with each other and there are rarely ethnic tensions . Islamabad would have been Kabul if everyone there had the same mentality as yours .

A portion of the Taxes that i and people of KPK pay....goes into the development of this Federal area of Islamabad. You are doing "ayashi" there on my Tax money also. This city got fat and luxurious, thanks to the looting of resources of smaller provinces. People in Sui dont have even gas available to them and use wood for cooking , and have no roads.....and the capital is so splendid?.......Mujeeb Ur Rahman said "muje Islamabad say pattson ki bu aa rahi hey".... i say i can smell the electricity from my province in Islamabad. The metrobus in your city, only small portion of it is in Islamabad but most is in the Pindi yet ganja built it on the federal budget and is managed by "Punjab highway authority".......You are an akhroat to show off about Islamabad to person like me.

 

[Mr.Realpolitik]

These Patloon, Jeans, underwear are not suitable in climate of Pakistan.....this a western influence. Also you cant offer prayers in tight jeans.

I have a simple question for you.....Is an Achakzai of Spin Boldak (Afghanistan) a Kafir and evil creature that Achakzai of Chaman (Pakistan) is supposed to hate? . Quran tell us that humans are divided into tribes and nations for purpose of identity. Islam refrained us from racial superiority mindset, not from tribal organizations and nationhood. All the Arabs in the time of Prophet were living in a tribal society, and tribal identity and kinship was recognized norm.

@Samandri your misunderstanding my point of view, an achakzai from Afghanistan is also our brother. I do not support the eviction of afghan refugees from Pakistan, its a gift from Allah(SWT) that we can help our muslim brothers in thier time of hardship.
But we must also come up with a strong mechanism to prevent such refugees camps to be used as hiding spots for foreign spy agencies working against the interest of Pakistan. I believe a good solution to this problem is sponsership.
If for example Achakzai from Afghanistan are refugees in Pakistan, maybe the Pakistani Achakzai tribe can verify all those members of the Afghan Achakzai tribe, and give a guarantee to Pak government that no foreign agents are hidden amongst them, all those who can not be verified should for security reasons be deported especially those men without families.

@Samandri your misunderstanding my point of view, an achakzai from Afghanistan is also our brother. I do not support the eviction of afghan refugees from Pakistan, its a gift from Allah(SWT) that we can help our muslim brothers in thier time of hardship.
But we must also come up with a strong mechanism to prevent such refugees camps to be used as hiding spots for foreign spy agencies working against the interest of Pakistan. I believe a good solution to this problem is sponsership.
If for example Achakzai from Afghanistan are refugees in Pakistan, maybe the Pakistani Achakzai tribe can verify all those members of the Afghan Achakzai tribe, and give a guarantee to Pak government that no foreign agents are hidden amongst them, all those who can not be verified should for security reasons be deported especially those men without families.

@Samandri I am the same person

@Samandri your misunderstanding my point of view, an achakzai from Afghanistan is also our brother. I do not support the eviction of afghan refugees from Pakistan, its a gift from Allah(SWT) that we can help our muslim brothers in thier time of hardship.
But we must also come up with a strong mechanism to prevent such refugees camps to be used as hiding spots for foreign spy agencies working against the interest of Pakistan. I believe a good solution to this problem is sponsership.
If for example Achakzai from Afghanistan are refugees in Pakistan, maybe the Pakistani Achakzai tribe can verify all those members of the Afghan Achakzai tribe, and give a guarantee to Pak government that no foreign agents are hidden amongst them, all those who can not be verified should for security reasons be deported especially those men without families.

@Samandri, Remember the 1920 Hijrat movement, when Afghani's refused asylum to Muslims of the subcontinent. We have forgiven but not forgotten, Yet we do not believe an eye for an eye will make the world a better place. Be proud of what your country has accomplished and think not only about your tribe but also your other countrymen.

 

[Khan_21]

A portion of the Taxes that i and people of KPK pay....goes into the development of this Federal area of Islamabad. You are doing "ayashi" there on my Tax money also. This city got fat and luxurious, thanks to the looting of resources of smaller provinces. People in Sui dont have even gas available to them and use wood for cooking , and have no roads.....and the capital is so splendid?.......Mujeeb Ur Rahman said "muje Islamabad say pattson ki bu aa rahi hey".... i say i can smell the electricity from my province in Islamabad. The metrobus in your city, only small portion of it is in Islamabad but most is in the Pindi yet ganja built it on the federal budget and is managed by "Punjab highway authority".......You are an akhroat to show off about Islamabad to person like me.

Yes it would have been like kabul if everyone had the mentality of yours . Pashtuns , tajiks , Uzbeks everyone took turns to raze and burn kabul just because their mentality was stoneage and were not open to ideas and everyone wanted to implement their version of law and order . My point was to tell you how backward thinking and resisting change will bring you nothing but destruction and backwardness . Look at where Pakistan and Afghanistan are now . Faisalabad a city of 7 million and the third largest city here has a bigger GDP than all of Afghanistan combined . In 10 years time PK will be in top 25 economies of the world and afghanistan will still be stuck in that 500 BC thinking of loy afghanistan and day dreaming about things .

 

[Samandri]

Samandri[/USER], Remember the 1920 Hijrat movement, when Afghani's refused asylum to Muslims of the subcontinent. We have forgiven but not forgotten, Yet we do not believe an eye for an eye will make the world a better place. Be proud of what your country has accomplished and think not only about your tribe but also your other countrymen.

You need to study the history of hijrat movement more , it was Afghan king Amanullah who encouraged it.......but it was bound to fail. Afghanistan could not sustain the entire Muslim population of India, so it was an absurd idea. Afghanistan did accommodate portion of Indians in various parts of Afghanistan, but many of them could not tolerate the harsh and tough environment of Afghanistan and returned back to India. Moreover Indians refused to serve in the army of Afghanistan, so were just mouths which was difficult for country like Afghanistan to feed without any return and service.

Yes it would have been like kabul if everyone had the mentality of yours . Pashtuns , tajiks , Uzbeks everyone took turns to raze and burn kabul just because their mentality was stoneage and were not open to ideas and everyone wanted to implement their version of law and order . My point was to tell you how backward thinking and resisting change will bring you nothing but destruction and backwardness . Look at where Pakistan and Afghanistan are now . Faisalabad a city of 7 million and the third largest city here has a bigger GDP than all of Afghanistan combined . In 10 years time PK will be in top 25 economies of the world and afghanistan will still be stuck in that 500 BC thinking of loy afghanistan and day dreaming about things .

My Tax money goes into building of roads in Islamabad, not Kabul or Tehran or Delhi. I know roads are shiny in Islamabad but not in Zhob. There is hustle and bustle in Faisalabad due to industries, but gas and electricity to factories there go from my province. And from gas of Sui, which is in stone age. Like i said dont show off patloon-boy.

 

[Khan_21]

My Tax money goes into building of roads in Islamabad, not Kabul or Tehran or Delhi. I know roads are shiny in Islamabad but not in Zhob. There is hustle and bustle in Faisalabad due to industries, but gas and electricity to factories there go from my province. And from gas of Sui, which is in stone age. Like i said dont show off patloon-boy.

Your province is somewhere Nangarhar or Khost not Here . Otherwise you wouldn't be promoting loy afghanistan shit here Islamabad , faisalabad , Lahore , Karachi , Zhob , Balochistan belongs to everyone living inside Pakistan . You happen to be a lucky chap from afghanistan who got PK CNIC by hook or crook and now claiming KPK as your own province . KPK belongs to the people of Pakistan not Some afghan boy who's in a delusional world .

 

[Kabira]

A portion of the Taxes that i and people of KPK pay....goes into the development of this Federal area of Islamabad. You are doing "ayashi" there on my Tax money also. This city got fat and luxurious, thanks to the looting of resources of smaller provinces. People in Sui dont have even gas available to them and use wood for cooking , and have no roads.....and the capital is so splendid?.......Mujeeb Ur Rahman said "muje Islamabad say pattson ki bu aa rahi hey".... i say i can smell the electricity from my province in Islamabad. The metrobus in your city, only small portion of it is in Islamabad but most is in the Pindi yet ganja built it on the federal budget and is managed by "Punjab highway authority".......You are an akhroat to show off about Islamabad to person like me.

? Rawalpindi portion of metro bus was funded by punjab goverment not federal.

You need to study the history of hijrat movement more , it was Afghan king Amanullah who encouraged it.......but it was bound to fail. Afghanistan could not sustain the entire Muslim population of India, so it was an absurd idea. Afghanistan did accommodate portion of Indians in various parts of Afghanistan, but many of them could not tolerate the harsh and tough environment of Afghanistan and returned back to India. Moreover Indians refused to serve in the army of Afghanistan, so were just mouths which was difficult for country like Afghanistan to feed without any return and service.


My Tax money goes into building of roads in Islamabad, not Kabul or Tehran or Delhi. I know roads are shiny in Islamabad but not in Zhob. There is hustle and bustle in Faisalabad due to industries, but gas and electricity to factories there go from my province. And from gas of Sui, which is in stone age. Like i said dont show off patloon-boy.

That's just propaganda, right now punjab isn't getting any gas for industries before other provinces. 70% of Pakistan gas is produced in Sindh and they use it most of it before punjab gets anything.

 

[Samandri]

Your province is somewhere Nangarhar or Khost not Here . Otherwise you wouldn't be promoting loy afghanistan shit here Islamabad , faisalabad , Lahore , Karachi , Zhob , Balochistan belongs to everyone living inside Pakistan . You happen to be a lucky chap from afghanistan who got PK CNIC by hook or crook and now claiming KPK as your own province . KPK belongs to the people of Pakistan not Some afghan boy who's in a delusional world .

Patloon boy , you must be thinking that i am some akhroat "dehati" who has not seen the world and can be impressed by the photos of Islamabad......show off more Patlooni, i am amused by your attempts.

 

[Khan_21]

Patloon boy , you must be thinking that i am some akhroat "dehati" who has not seen the world and can be impressed by the photos of Islamabad......show off more Patlooni, i am amused by your attempts.

I am amused by how you think . I am from a village myself and enjoy spending time in my village more than I do in Kuala lumpur . I am Coming back in 3 days and couldn't be more excited to see my own village . Just because you live in a city or abroad doesn't mean rest becomes '' dehati '' . Its close minded people like you who have this mentality .

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Why dont you discard your British nationality in the spirit of patriotism and permanently come back to Pakistan, and endure problems along with us?......your family gave up on Pakistan and ran away to UK for money, yet you are calling yourself "ProudPakistanguy" in the comforts of U.K with life style of U.K

Why you are farting without having any knowledge about me or my family? I am still pakistani national and own pakistani identity and nationality. All my family is living in Pakistan and i am in uk just for work. My heart beat for pakistan no matter where i live but you are traitor who own pakistani nationality but try to defend those who spread terrorism in Pakistan..nationality is piece of paper but what matter is what you feel for your country in your heart and you clearly more attach to afghanistan than pakistan so thats where you should be deported

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

partuga, accepting colonel imposed boundaries is an act of kuffar and blasphemy against islam and pashtunwali. I don't believe in western style nation states and hard boundries, I consider pashtun abode my home on which side of border is it. But slave mentality partug like you only understand how to serve their colonel master. Please show us some more images of islamabad, I am impressed desi.

Why you idiots start abusing those pastuns who dont buy your shit propaganda for loy assghanistan?

 

[Khan_21]

partuga, accepting colonel imposed boundaries is an act of kuffar and blasphemy against islam and pashtunwali. I don't believe in western style nation states and hard boundries, I consider pashtun abode my home on which side of border is it. But slave mentality partug like you only understand how to serve their colonel master. Please show us some more images of islamabad, I am impressed desi.

Oh so you are on moral high ground about islam and kuffar? I bet you are a saint in other walks of life too since you have such a big regard for islam and kuffer?or like other people you bring in religion whenever it suits you.?

Yes you dont believe in western style states and yet you are here on a visa? Or like other afghans you crossed over illegally for greener pastures?

I would have shown you more of islamabad but it would get you depressed if you go back go Kabul

 

[ADIL SHERDIL]

Afghanis are ungrateful and illiterate. They bring islam in every thing in which they are losing. I hate Zia ul haq for the problems that we are facing now is because of his policies he should have helped russia and closed the borders. The mighty afgan lovers here in this forum wouldnt have been born then.
@springhar you are really a PIECE of DONKEY SHIT. you people were given refuge here now you people are not only best friends with our enemy but your country is trying to destabilize nad sabotage progress in our country.
You guys bring QURAN AND ISLAM in everything remember there is word for people like you and its Munafiq.