Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Talibastards have taken hostages............

 

[Dance]

Talibastards have taken hostages............

Do you know how many?

 

[Meengla]

Well, the failure of Pakistan remains not only in tracking these militants. There are too many of them. Even going by Musharraf's '1%' estimate for the entire population--and that was made in the better days.
The failure is because of Pakistan's un-winnable proxy wars against India--and India is backed by America. Pakistan may not really 'like' the Haqqani group etc but will keep them because they may not be as bad as a complete Indian-favoring govt. in Afghanistan. Pakistan may not like Jamaat e Dawa etc but they can tie down Indian troops in Kashmir....
The result of these policies are that the religious zeal to make these 'non-state-actors' work for Pakistan can also make them work against Pakistan. When you can have a suicide bomber--perhaps the most lethal and effective weapon inside any state--for less than $7,000 for hire then others, with deeper pockets, are going to come in and use them as well.
There is no 'victory' for Pakistan. All these BS about Gwadar, China, JF 17, a Taliban led govt. in Afghanistan, bleeding India etc, even in their best projected scenarios, are going to give too little back, if they ever reach their potentials.
Pakistan needs a radical re-alignment and that starts from a radical look at Pakistan's India policy with cold, rationale approach.

[ Mods: My post is relevant to this topic.]

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Do you know how many?

I think 6........ as per media reports.

It will be over in half an hour or so.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

They r tryin to take them alive.

 

[Hammy007]

They r tryin to take them alive.

mark my words none will be taken alive, and responsibility will be on taliban

 

[Super Falcon]

even if they take them alive no use becoz army will not bring truth to nation ISI will underground or kill them

 

[deckingraj]

Well, the failure of Pakistan remains not only in tracking these militants. There are too many of them. Even going by Musharraf's '1%' estimate for the entire population--and that was made in the better days.
The failure is because of Pakistan's un-winnable proxy wars against India--and India is backed by America. Pakistan may not really 'like' the Haqqani group etc but will keep them because they may not be as bad as a complete Indian-favoring govt. in Afghanistan. Pakistan may not like Jamaat e Dawa etc but they can tie down Indian troops in Kashmir....
The result of these policies are that the religious zeal to make these 'non-state-actors' work for Pakistan can also make them work against Pakistan. When you can have a suicide bomber--perhaps the most lethal and effective weapon inside any state--for less than $7,000 for hire then others, with deeper pockets, are going to come in and use them as well.
There is no 'victory' for Pakistan. All these BS about Gwadar, China, JF 17, a Taliban led govt. in Afghanistan, bleeding India etc, even in their best projected scenarios, are going to give too little back, if they ever reach their potentials.
Pakistan needs a radical re-alignment and that starts from a radical look at Pakistan's India policy with cold, rationale approach.

[ Mods: My post is relevant to this topic.]

I cannot agree more on the bold part...An ordinary Pakistani need to ask what is better for their future - A 6 decade old enemy or perhaps an ordinary neighbor with just about good relations....Anyhow this can be discussed later...for now as we should pray is - no more casualty and logical conclusion of the operation

 

[zer0]

Well, the failure of Pakistan remains not only in tracking these militants. There are too many of them. Even going by Musharraf's '1%' estimate for the entire population--and that was made in the better days.
The failure is because of Pakistan's un-winnable proxy wars against India--and India is backed by America. Pakistan may not really 'like' the Haqqani group etc but will keep them because they may not be as bad as a complete Indian-favoring govt. in Afghanistan. Pakistan may not like Jamaat e Dawa etc but they can tie down Indian troops in Kashmir....
The result of these policies are that the religious zeal to make these 'non-state-actors' work for Pakistan can also make them work against Pakistan. When you can have a suicide bomber--perhaps the most lethal and effective weapon inside any state--for less than $7,000 for hire then others, with deeper pockets, are going to come in and use them as well.
There is no 'victory' for Pakistan. All these BS about Gwadar, China, JF 17, a Taliban led govt. in Afghanistan, bleeding India etc, even in their best projected scenarios, are going to give too little back, if they ever reach their potentials.
Pakistan needs a radical re-alignment and that starts from a radical look at Pakistan's India policy with cold, rationale approach.

[ Mods: My post is relevant to this topic.]

I agree, Pakistan is wasting too much money on "trying" to advance its military, if they invest that money in public and education maybe they wont be in this . The only cure for like this is education.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

I hope one of them will be catch alive.

All Bases should be taken away from civilians area or take civilians away from Bases. All terrorist use near by neighborhoods to group and stage a attach. Even Osama was living near the army base.

No important Assets base should have civil houses to live near by and hopefully the Army Generals in business of property will not sell the land to civil use in future near the army bases as its a security risk to the nation defense. .

 

[muse]

Truth is that the armed forces are riddled with Islamists and these individuals see the sabotage of Pakistani assets as a religious duty - of course the Indian, Israeli and US will be the focus of official and officially sponsored rumor mills -- but if you care about truth, the reality is that the armed forces itself is now untenable -- if these people cannot protect themselves, can they protect nuclear triggers? can they protect nuclear material? DO we really want to risk finding out answers to these??


The Islamists terrorists know full well that this is the way to put Pakistan under greater pressure and the Pakistan armed forces still are more concerned with politics instead of killing this Islamist monster.

 

[RAZA SAHI]

They r tryin to take them alive.

@Pakistani Nationalist


THAT SHOULD BE THE STRATEGY, INFORMATION TAKEN FROM THEM WOULD BE GREAT, REALLY GREAT. IT WON'T BE OF ANY USE TO AUTHORITIES OR PAKISTAN IF THEY ARE KILLED. IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERD AN OPPERTUNITY. MAXIMUM EFFORT SHOULD BE MADE TO GET THEM ALIVE, INFORMATION TAKEN FROM THESE GUYS WOULD REVEAL A LOT ABOUT THE LOGISTICS SUPPORT, THEIR HANDLERS & TRAINERS, MOST OF ALL THE MINDS WHO PLANNED SUCH AN AUDICIOUS ATTACK ON SUCH A HIGH VALUE TARGET.

 

[Dance]

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All Bases should be taken away from civilians area or take civilians away from Bases. All terrorist use near by neighborhoods to group and stage a attach. Even Osama was living near the army base.

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Exactly, these bases should be moved away from being in the middle of a city to somewhere where it is not that populated. The fact that these bases/GHQ are in populated ares is a big security risk as we can see!

 

[roadrunner]

Well, the failure of Pakistan remains not only in tracking these militants. There are too many of them. Even going by Musharraf's '1%' estimate for the entire population--and that was made in the better days.
The failure is because of Pakistan's un-winnable proxy wars against India--and India is backed by America. Pakistan may not really 'like' the Haqqani group etc but will keep them because they may not be as bad as a complete Indian-favoring govt. in Afghanistan. Pakistan may not like Jamaat e Dawa etc but they can tie down Indian troops in Kashmir....
The result of these policies are that the religious zeal to make these 'non-state-actors' work for Pakistan can also make them work against Pakistan. When you can have a suicide bomber--perhaps the most lethal and effective weapon inside any state--for less than $7,000 for hire then others, with deeper pockets, are going to come in and use them as well.
There is no 'victory' for Pakistan. All these BS about Gwadar, China, JF 17, a Taliban led govt. in Afghanistan, bleeding India etc, even in their best projected scenarios, are going to give too little back, if they ever reach their potentials.
Pakistan needs a radical re-alignment and that starts from a radical look at Pakistan's India policy with cold, rationale approach.

[ Mods: My post is relevant to this topic.]

lol, no. India is totally irrelevant in all this.

It is Pakistan's pro-China policies that are problematic for it, not its anti-India ones. Noone cares about Pakistan being anti-India.

 

[VCheng]

Nevermind OBL's choice of accommodation, if warplanes are not safe on the flight apron, then what is??!! :O