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Army warns Hate-Speakers, Don't push it

At the end of the day the sanity has prevailed!!! The folks are off the street!!!! If it's due to "don't push" statement it's even better!!! Why? It means "somebody" is in control!!! It further shows that a "two weeks" notice may not be readily bring in results in Pak the way it worked out for the Last Shah of Iran, or is working on MBS/MBZ even after paying 100s of billion $s of blood money!!! As an outsider, Pak always enthralls me....

*In the Islamic principles, a bad government/state is better than no government/state
 
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Islam emphasizes intellectual pursuits and the use of reason in all dealings and debates. The State should invite these anti-Islam and anti-State barbarians (Rizvi & Co) to explain themselves on television, including a live debate on exactly which rules of Islam the verdict broke (none) and also which rules of Islam allow the destruction of private property, disruption to public life, murder, hate speech, etc (also none.) Expose these savages.
He is not the guy who listens to reasons he will quote some hadees with his own interpretations and will start abusing everyone live on tv. Danda language is what barbarians like him understand
 
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Earlier I asked who is the umpire in Islam.

“When there comes to them some matter touching (public) safety or fear, they make it known (among the people); if only they had referred it to the Messenger or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have understood it from them (directly). Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allaah upon you, you would have followed Shaytaan (Satan), save a few of you” [al-Nisaa’ :83]

It's the elected Prime Minister, President, their cabinet and institutions working under them. They are the ones charged with authority here in Pakistan.
 
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desi liberal hypocrites are wanting another laal masjid, after action they would start crying

That's a confused liberal for you. They seek destruction at the beginning. After the destruction the Pak army is always the culprit.

Liberals make PTM look like angels and that takes some doing.
 
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Firstly, Arsalan, do you deny that the law is (ab)used to take advantage of people? To settle scores?

Secondly, the accusers should provide credible evidence and Asia shall be in the gallows tomorrow at dawn. The burden of providing credible proof lies upon the shoulders of the accusers, not on the judges, who have acquitted Asia on the basis of a LACK of evidence, you bloody numpty.

Thirdly, it is not "us versus them". That is the main problem here. Pakistan needs to be homogenous and inclusive. This idea that christians are working round the clock to somehow undermine Islam and Pakistan is complete nonsense. Christians are not somehow "supported by clandestine sources from abroad". Otherwise, they wouldn't be employed cleaning your toilets, unless, of course, you wish to imply that cleaning your toilets is "luxury", in which case, I simply can't say much.

Furthermore, do you want to know the biggest problem here? TLP are using you for their own political point scoring. I bet that they wish Asia really had insulted the Prophet (SAW) - and do you want to know why? Because it provides legitimacy to everything they're doing. Because it gives them votes.

They are doing everything that is unislamic - murder, arson, damage to public and private property, obstructing the lives of the people, killing the livelihoods of people who are currently sitting in fear at home not knowing if they'll live to see their next meals - and for what? To bring a woman to death despite insufficient evidence against her. Despite the fact that she's suffered more than you ever will.

I can not claim to be the most knowledgeable man in the room, Arsalan, but I know one thing - this is pure evil.

i understand your point.i don't care about tlp or ttp whatever.how can you make a decision when the case is 10 years old and after 10 years, you find out that there are different accounts in witness stories.that's ridiculous.a woman served in jail for 9 years for a reason.christian supports them because she is christian.it's not like pakistani people.we have sell our religion and we call ourselves muslims.you can read the Holy book.the book has warned muslims about such people.

1. Have you read the verdict? It contains the answers to your questions in detail. It is 56 pages long, it is available in English and Urdu, if you want, i can provide you a link.

2. "christians support their men and their religion" - if this is true, then why are the Christians in Pakistan working as chooray cleaning up your sh1t? Why don't the goray send them money, or in fact just take them all to Europe so they can live like kings?

they care about their religion unlike us.it's useless conversation.you will never understand my point.

Earlier I asked who is the umpire in Islam. This punk answered. The Mullahs. There you have it. Ger rid of the Supreme Court. Just appoint Rizvi as the umpire. everything sorted.

you called me punk? and you are pdf think tank consultant? i saw the photo.looks like drunk run away afghan refugee.
 
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i understand your point.i don't care about tlp or ttp whatever.how can you make a decision when the case is 10 years old and after 10 years, you find out that there are different accounts in witness stories.that's ridiculous.a woman served in jail for 9 years for a reason.christian supports them because she is christian.it's not like pakistani people.we have sell our religion and we call ourselves muslims.you can read the Holy book.the book has warned muslims about such people.



they care about their religion unlike us.it's useless conversation.you will never understand my point.



you called me punk? and you are pdf think tank consultant? i saw the photo.looks like drunk run away afghan refugee.

If you didn't send her to jail for 9 years you wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

Is there any evidence of her blaspheming? Is there a recording? Or is it just hearsay?

Your justice system is a load of shit and she should never have been sentenced. This shit show is your own doing. Killing her will only make things worse.
 
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How can they control them without incidents like the red mosque? They can try damaging credibility of Khadim Rizvi so that peoolp don't follow him but he openly abuses and has weird suggestions for solving pakistan debt crisis but still people follow him.


Stunted growth syndrome.

With over 60% of the population with a pea sized brain due to poor nutrition and development. These folks are prime targets for the Jaahil mullahs to prey upon.

Grow a brain; defeat mullahism.
 
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I want Pakistan to be free of extremism but i near equally Hate liberals in Pakistan also.
Liberals and extremism are not mutually exclusive.

It's far more complex then that. The army among others have nurtured the problem for short time gain but the army also is the solution. The journey to where we are today began when turned religion into a commodity to be used. From that point everybody has realized that in Pakistan religion is great commodity to be used for political goals. This began the vicious cycle of everybody trying to peddle more religion then the bext guy. Today you can have a discussion without at some point Islam being used to club you - this is even apparent on PDF.

  • 1947 - ML used Islam for political cause to establish Pakistan
  • 1949 - ML used Islam via Objective Resolution to give them political credibility when they had non
  • 1950s - Mullahs realized if others could use Islam to gain power they were missing out on their own franchise.
  • 1960s - Mullahs built up their own franchise to gain politcal influence but struggled against British era officials
  • 1970s - with rise of Arab oil and workers in Gulf Mullahs starte to gain strength as Bhutto gave in to pressure and declared Ahmedi's non Muslims. This was first instance of Mullah power scoring a political victory.
  • 1980s - Gen Zia lacking any political mandate instead harvested mullah power to sustain his power
  • 1990s - Mullah power was absolute. No government dare take them on. Thus began the appeasement that we see all the way to the present.
As you can see it was a step by step process. In a country where everybody uses religion for power/profit and where the sovereignty is declared to be enshrined in the almighty is it a wonder the Mullahs will remain potent? Think about this. If sovereignty is with Allah who on earth thinks they are viceregents of the almighty? Certainly not me, you, the chief justice, COAS or the PM. Islam is the bread and butter of Mullahs so they feel they are the viceregents of the almighty on earth. I heard Rizvi saying this.

He said something along the lines of what do those who do doctorates in western law [cheif justice] know about Islam? What do those who spent their lives playing with bats know [Pm IK] know about Islam? What do those who study at military academies [COAS] know about Islam? It is we who study Islam and pray fastiodously everyday who know and represent what islam is. And frankly according to the narrative the Pakistani state has built up over 70 years this is 100% right.

Question: In a Islamic republic who should lead it? Men of Islamic learning [mullahs] or people holding secular credentials like politicians, generals, judges etc? Please go to 4:30.



I have alteady said that Pakistan is on the brink. One wrong move and we might end up with civil war.
And that is what they seek....civil war....don’t be like Libya or Syria....
 
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When you start questioning accepted norms things reveal their true nature

So what I should probably have asked was, what caused the first question.

That's the inflection point ...

Cheers, Doc
 
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He is not the guy who listens to reasons he will quote some hadees with his own interpretations and will start abusing everyone live on tv. Danda language is what barbarians like him understand

The "reason" angle is only to expose him --- to justify the danda language ;)
 
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