Army warns Hate-Speakers, Don't push it

[maximuswarrior]

Likes of Hussain Haqqani are not libtards.A liberal mindset is also patriotic.God forbid, I am afraid to accuse anyone but mindsets who work against the state, faith and particularly armed sectors are traitors.Their vision is poor and they only seek temporary benefit.A liberal and religious mindset has full right to speak if they both have love for the country and faith and who speak for us: They are amongst us; let them be!

regards

They pretend to be liberals. At least that is what they sell to their masters. You are absolutely right. These creatures can only be identified as backstabbing savages. The truth is that they don't fit any category. They morph into any kind of system that is beneficial to them. There is no such thing as loyalty.

Being optimistic is one thing but ignoring is another. Same thing happened with TTP in the past and it came to the point that TTP killed more than 100,000 death including children and women and by then, the damage were done and the choice was made for them.

And judging by people reaction, the history is being repeated despite failure to heed the signs.



So you are gonna pretend Imran Khan never supported Indian-funded Afghan-based Terrorist-outfit aka TTP in the past and not even called for political offices for them either? Dare I say, denial is indeed very strong in this one.

LOL Man, you just keep believing in your conspiracy theories.

 

[Finer]

So what mqm did in Karachi was done by extremist ……….. lol MQM is extremist party …… even ANP will be according to him...
lmao
Edit: And where the hell you saw infrastructure of Pakistan burning every where ….. LMAO... which channel ?? let us all know Indian bg.

PMLN/MQM is the product of the main establishment that supported the legislation of blasphemy laws so you can imagine the mindset judging by the trend back then.

 

[HAIDER]

Saw ISPR press briefing. It is hidden warning to Molvies , that someone from security agencies will visit them later. When .... date will announce later after visitation .

 

[razgriz19]

This os what happens when you base a country on religious believes and expect the law system to work!
Religious leaders will always remain in power as long as there are enough uneducated religious people in the country. Pakistan should be a secular state. Practice your religion in peace within the confine of a masjid or fours walls of your dwelling

 

[YeBeWarned]

Just a Passing by Comment

 

[war&peace]

You need medical treatment ..... Wtf you on about? Waste of oxygen.

The passions are so high on PDF that if you guys met physically, you won't be any different than TLP goons.. Why can't we express our opinions in a peaceful way?

 

[valkyr_96]

This os what happens when you base a country on religious believes and expect the law system to work!
Religious leaders will always remain in power as long as there are enough uneducated religious people in the country. Pakistan should be a secular state. Practice your religion in peace within the confine of a masjid or fours walls of your dwelling

This is unhelpful......there is noting wrong with our religion and its practices both inside and outside the house and its foundation in our state. If you would have read through the countless threads over the past three days you have seen that the people claiming to be guardians of faith have ascribed many things contrary to Islam. Animal behavior exists every where, in fact, it a part of behavioral economics usually reflected by mass panic/hysteria leading to sell-off in the market. Lets not forget the riots in England. The only problem here is that people are too uneducated to understand the verdict and the government is incapable of establishing its writ through crowd control measures. Key people should be arrested and should face the law regarding the statements they have made. They can be made to digest the verdict....lets put them in front of the camera and see how they rationalize it (shaming and shunning them publicly or jailing them is the best way to deal with them). As for the remaining rioters, catch them cable tie them, light beating and fasting will break their fever.

 

[MBT 3000]

desi liberal hypocrites are wanting another laal masjid, after action they would start crying

 

[El Sidd]

@Retired Troll sir kahan han?

I was banned

 

[Reichsmarschall]

I was banned

Welcome back

 

[Agito]

Guys the million rupee question is very simple -

We are all Muslims. But who has the right to arrogate sovereignty of Allah on earth? Who is the final arbiter in Islam. In cricket we have umpires. Who is the definitive umpire/s in Islam?

• Mullahs
• Judges
• PM
• Parliament
• Generals
• Politico-religious groups
• hereditey Kings
• each of us [limited to our private space]
• Non of us mortals but left to hereafter
• other

This is the million rupee question, which if not resolved will keep coming back to bite us again, again, again and again. We are going to continously get TTPs, Mullah Radio, Lal Masjids, Rizvi's etc

@KediKesenFare @padamchen @OsmanAli98 etc Thoughts please?

There is no exact answer for that question because Islam, unlike Christianity for example, has no administrative system. Islam has no system of clergy and the concept of "church". Which is both a blessing and a curse. That means Islam is decentralized but is heavily dependent on dialogue and consensus. In times of troubles like today, Muslims (even the common street trash) love to pretend that they're the sole arbiters of Islam. You can't have a religion of 1.4 or 1..6 billion sole arbiters. Now, I'm not advocating for centralization, actually I'm against it. It's a fail safe mechanism in Islam. I encourage dialogue and consensus, but most major religious forces in Islam today are borderline retarded. Most will fail, thankfully. Regardless of the outcome, Islam will always be decentralized, it's in its DNA.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Islam will always be decentralized, it's in its DNA.

Yes, I am acutely aware of that. Which is precisely why I think faith should not directly have role in public life. I think the best way forward is to leave Islam in hearts of each individual and let each person be arbiter unto themselves - strictly nothing beyond that. Of course there will be indirect feed into law and the public realm. For instance most would vote for a prohibition on alcohol for a better society and secure the family life. Meaning the culture nourished by the individuals would reflect a broad consensus of Islamic values and mullah power would be negated.

 

[Agito]

Yes, I am acutely aware of that. Which is precisely why I think faith should not directly have role in public life. I think the best way forward is to leave Islam in hearts of each individual and let each person be arbiter unto themselves - strictly nothing beyond that. Of course there will be indirect feed into law and the public realm. For instance most would vote for a prohibition on alcohol for a better society and secure the family life. Meaning the culture nourished by the individuals would reflect a broad consensus of Islamic values and mullah power would be negated.

Very well said. I agree with you.

 

[Verve]

Yes, I am acutely aware of that. Which is precisely why I think faith should not directly have role in public life. I think the best way forward is to leave Islam in hearts of each individual and let each person be arbiter unto themselves - strictly nothing beyond that. Of course there will be indirect feed into law and the public realm. For instance most would vote for a prohibition on alcohol for a better society and secure the family life. Meaning the culture nourished by the individuals would reflect a broad consensus of Islamic values and mullah power would be negated.

IK shouldn't be your choice then ... You think he would make Pakistan a secular nation if he had 2/3 majority? Given the opportunity, he would change the economy to an interest free one. A secular leader and nation would never do that.

 

[R Wing]

Firstly, Arsalan, do you deny that the law is (ab)used to take advantage of people? To settle scores?

Secondly, the accusers should provide credible evidence and Asia shall be in the gallows tomorrow at dawn. The burden of providing credible proof lies upon the shoulders of the accusers, not on the judges, who have acquitted Asia on the basis of a LACK of evidence, you bloody numpty.

Thirdly, it is not "us versus them". That is the main problem here. Pakistan needs to be homogenous and inclusive. This idea that christians are working round the clock to somehow undermine Islam and Pakistan is complete nonsense. Christians are not somehow "supported by clandestine sources from abroad". Otherwise, they wouldn't be employed cleaning your toilets, unless, of course, you wish to imply that cleaning your toilets is "luxury", in which case, I simply can't say much.

Furthermore, do you want to know the biggest problem here? TLP are using you for their own political point scoring. I bet that they wish Asia really had insulted the Prophet (SAW) - and do you want to know why? Because it provides legitimacy to everything they're doing. Because it gives them votes.

They are doing everything that is unislamic - murder, arson, damage to public and private property, obstructing the lives of the people, killing the livelihoods of people who are currently sitting in fear at home not knowing if they'll live to see their next meals - and for what? To bring a woman to death despite insufficient evidence against her. Despite the fact that she's suffered more than you ever will.

I can not claim to be the most knowledgeable man in the room, Arsalan, but I know one thing - this is pure evil.

There is no exact answer for that question because Islam, unlike Christianity for example, has no administrative system. Islam has no system of clergy and the concept of "church". Which is both a blessing and a curse. That means Islam is decentralized but is heavily dependent on dialogue and consensus. In times of troubles like today, Muslims (even the common street trash) love to pretend that they're the sole arbiters of Islam. You can't have a religion of 1.4 or 1..6 billion sole arbiters. Now, I'm not advocating for centralization, actually I'm against it. It's a fail safe mechanism in Islam. I encourage dialogue and consensus, but most major religious forces in Islam today are borderline retarded. Most will fail, thankfully. Regardless of the outcome, Islam will always be decentralized, it's in its DNA.

Welcome to the forum, sane voices.

Islam emphasizes intellectual pursuits and the use of reason in all dealings and debates. The State should invite these anti-Islam and anti-State barbarians (Rizvi & Co) to explain themselves on television, including a live debate on exactly which rules of Islam the verdict broke (none) and also which rules of Islam allow the destruction of private property, disruption to public life, murder, hate speech, etc (also none.) Expose these savages.