Can I intervene in the discussion despite my lack of knowledge ?
Everyone is talking about Police, SSG, Army, and who should do what to fight terrorists.
My humble point of view is :
1) Police, or any civilian forces couldn’t have taken on terrorists like Army did in the western parts of the country. This a fact nobody can deny if I’m not mistaken in my analysis.
One question comes to my mind ? Why only Army would have been (and it is without doubt) the only organisation which could have done it ?
I don’t have definitive answers but maybe because the nature of the grounds and the ressources required against such large groups if terrorists?
Knowing capabilities of our Polices Forces (I mean civilians Forces), we can say safely or presume it that they weren’t able to do the job. But I’m sure that in any other country no civilians forces could have successfully do the job. Military ressources were truly needed.
They weren’t facing few dakkoos or mafia styles organisations.
They were facing militants who where trained since years if not decades in guérilla tactics.
It was a a true war like situation.
Therefore Army and SSG were correctly tasked no doubt.
And if we remember, it was very sad but the losses were very high in the beginning. But then with the capabilities of learning and developing new tactics they reduced losses and became more efficient.
2) Now coming to the civilian forces :
Nobody can deny that we need to reform these forces. But when specifically speaking about terrorism, nowhere in the world « normal » police could take on them. I never say any normal policemen taking on them. Perhaps few heroic actions here and there. But nothing more from « normal » Police forces. And I hope that nobody here is asking « normal » policemen to take on the terrorists.
But who could take on the terrorists ?
As some few people have already said, this task is of very specialised « Police » Forces. A kind of supermen. Yes I said supermen ! And I’m not jocking.
I will talk about France as an example because I know how they work here. And they are known to be one if the best in the world if not The Best.
We had several different groups of those specialised policemen until 3-4 years ago. They had their own way of training, etc but now they are coordinating and maybe harmonising it.
I think they all are not more than few hundreds. But they have centres situated in one hour of reach from any big cities.
Yes I agree that geography of France help a lot here.
How they work ? Each time there is a call from « normal » police because situation is not normal, the nearest team take off immediately (they have all the time team on standby) and reach the spot as quickly possible. Then they took over the operation.
Who are those guys ? How they train ?
Those guys are all volunteers but they go trough a strict and very selective recruiting process. Everything is checked : mentally, physically, maturity etc
And when selected, they have a very severe training but still they can be eliminated. Their training could be as the one special forces. That’s why SSG were and are successful in Pakistan. But the difference is that in France those special polices forces are not reporting to the defence minister but to the interior minister.
I heard each group fire over million real bulles each year. During training. They have training centre where they have reproduced most of the civilian environment they could have to go if I’m not mistaken ( train, airplane, store, house, building etc. And I think that could be what is doing the SSG Moussa company if my memory doesn’t fail me.
What is better between having civilian specialised police force and a military special force who could help civilians when needed ?
I would say that having a civilian specialised police force is better. Because it will be able to tackle terrorism situation but also hostage situation where husband go mad and take here wife as hostage and could kill here etc. It works perfectly in France. So if tomorrow someone kidnap me, these men will intervene and save me, but these men also neutralised terrorists who attacked France few years ago.
But is Pakistan same as France ? The answer is obviously NO.
In Pakistan police is politicised, full of jahils fat corrupt people ( yes I’m over generalising) but you won’t deny it that this is sad state of our police.
So who and how will those supermen will be selected, trained etc ? Wouldn’t they turn out to be pawn in the corrupt system we have ?
So knowing the DNA, or the mindset of our police, it is better to keep SSG doing the job until our Society in general grow up in honesty and maturity. Because those supermen could become more dangerous than terrorists themselves if they turn wrong.
I understand very well
@Zarvan position and I hope we could implement what he said but we cannot for the moment unfortunately.
