Arab - India Relations

[lem34]

Akkkh I hate being an Arab sometime..............

Why is that Mossa?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Past Relations:

 

[somebozo]

India has never been our enemy and will never be. You are our dear friends, and we have many things in common. I hope to see India a superpower. Beautiful country with great present and history.

thats some art of copying the pic from Battle of Iojama...


By the way you missed an important detail.

India–Palestine relations

Indo-Palestinian relations have been largely influenced by the independence struggle against British colonialism. After India achieved its independence in 1947, the country has moved to support Palestinian self-determination following the partition of British India. In the light of a religious partition between India and Pakistan, the impetus to boost ties with Muslim states around the world was a further tie to India's support for the Palestinian cause. Though it started to waver in the late 1980s and 1990s as the recognition of Israel led to diplomatic exchanges, the ultimate support for the Palestinian cause was still an underlying concern. Beyond the recognition for Palestinian self-determination ties have been largely dependent upon socio-cultural bonds, while economic relations were neither cold nor warm.
However, since the establishment of diplomatic relations between India and Israel, there has been increased cooperation in military and intelligence ventures. The fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of Islamist anti-state activities in both countries paved the way for a strategic alliance. Since then, Indian support for Palestine has been lukewarm although India still recognises the legitimate aspirations of Palestine.[1]
India recognised Palestine's statehood following its own declaration in 1988;[2] although relations were first established in 1974.[3]


Background

India was the first non-Arab country to contemporaneously recognize the Palestine Liberation Organization's authority as "the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people." A PLO office was set up in the Indian capital in 1975, with full diplomatic relations established in March 1980. In return, India opened a Representative Office in Gaza on June 25, 1996. Indian support was said to extend to "consistent and unwavering support" on the Palestinian issue, where it shared the perception that the question of Palestine is at the core of the Arab-Israeli conflict. India has thus consistently supported the legitimate right of the Palestinian people to a State and the consequent imperative need for a just, comprehensive and lasting peace in the region based on United Nations Security Council resolution 242, 338 and 425, as well as the principle of "Land for Peace." India has also supported the Madrid Conference of October, 1991.[4]
According to an opinion survey conducted in 2009 on behalf of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, India is the most pro-Israel country in the world, followed by US.[5]

Continued support

Following the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 2006, India came out, surprisingly, saying Israeli use of force was "disproportionate and excessive."[6]
India participated in the 2007 Annapolis Conference and the consequent donors conference. India's government noted the direct relevance for India on the issue and favoured the creation of "sovereign, independent, united states of Palestine" asserting that its support for the cause remains unwavered. External Affairs Minister, Pranab Mukherjee, briefed the Consultative Committee in his ministry saying, "India's support to the Palestinian cause has not wavered."[7] Practically a year later, as a gesture of solidarity with the Palestinian cause, India gifted a piece of prized real estate in the Indian capital’s elite diplomatic enclave for the building of an embassy of the Palestinian National Authority's President (PAP) Mahmoud Abbas. Abbas will lay the foundation stone of the chancery-cum-residence complex of the embassy of Palestine, where the PAP Abbas would formally dedicate the building to the people of Palestine from the people of India. The gift underscored India’s "unwavering solidarity and commitment to an independent Palestine" and was seen by some to balance its growing relations with Israel.[8] On his visit, the PAP said that India had played a great role in West Asia peace process. After the ceremonial reception and a guard of honour at the forecourt of Rashtrapati Bhawan, Abbas said relations between India and Palestine had always been good and that the two countries were making efforts to improve such relations. "You know how good relations we have, between India and Palestine since [the] great Indira Gandhi and [the] great Yasir Arafat. And everyday, it’s improving. We are very glad with the help and the support of the Indian people to the Palestine."[9] The next day the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said, "India believes that the solution should be based on the relevant U.N. Resolutions, the Arab Peace Plan and the Quartet road map resulting in a sovereign, independent, viable and united State of Palestine living within secure and recognised borders, side by side at peace with Israel."[10] A joint statement also added that "India also called for an end to the expansion of Israeli settlements in occupied Palestine and for an early and significant easing of restrictions on the free movement of persons and goods within Palestine."

Domestic Palenstinian controversy arose, however, as Abbas received some flak for his intransigence. On the visit to India he stated that the country's "growing relationship with Israel is not a matter of concern for [the] Palestinians" as New Delhi's support for Palestinian independence remained clear. He was condemned for making an "utterly irresponsible, gratuitous statement" as "shameful" as it was "politically futile" and stood no chance to win the PA anything in return. Without an apparatus of Palestinian democratic accountability by the representatives of the people the flood of official Palestinian concessions was "guaranteed to continue unabated" as it would cause further damage to the struggle for "inalienable rights." While talking about India's growing engagement with Israel, particularly in the field of defence, Abbas said, "India's relations with Israel is its sovereign decision. We are not going to interfere. We know very well that India is supportive of the Palestinian struggle for achieving its own independence."[12] His controversial comments were in stark contrast to report than India became Israel's second largest trading partner, while India became Israel's largest arm's market and the latter became the former's largest arms supplier.[13] However, it was also said that the Palestinian economy has "incredible potential" which could be unleashed if the Israeli restrictions on Palestinian movement were lifted, this was accorded by the regional World Bank chief just after a high-level World Bank delegation inaugurated a sewage storage facility on a rare trip to the Hamas-ruled Gaza.

While Indian support has often relied on the age-old, and often qualifiable propaganda basis, certain points did bound the pre-partition states of Ireland, India, and Palestine.[15] On this front, where Israel "unabashedly defends the rights of Jews over all others, India (as a state) has never claimed religious exclusivism for it's [sic] Hindu citizens,"[16] this gave credence to a legitimate support for the Palestinian cause. It was also showed, through academic analysis, that "economic factors can have a profound impact efforts to resolve conflict peaceably."[17] With this aforementions disclaimer, India could, theoretically, be an important ally to improve tensions.[18] Studies of such parallels have also shown that economic factors do now draw positive yields.[17]

Indian aid to Palestine

India continued moral, material and technical support to Palestine and the Palestinian people. At the Washington Donors Conference in October, 1995, India pledged, and met, US$1 million for assistance to the Palestinian people. At the subsequent pledging conference in Paris in January, 1996, India pledged another US$1 million in assistance to the Palestinians, which was utilised for construction of a Library-cum-Activity Centre at the Palestinian Technical College in Deir-El-Balah and another Library at the Al-Azhar University in Gaza. At yet another International Donors Conference in Washington DC on 30 November 1998, India pledged another US$1 million as assistance to Palestine. Out of the latter, a sum of US$ 300,000/- had been disbursed to Al-Azhar University in Gaza for the construction of two additional floors to its library. The remaining amount was utilised for a Human Resource Development Programme.

Following a visit of a security delegation to India in March, 1997, led by the Head of the Palestinian Security Forces, Maj. Gen. Nasser Yussef, India offered 51 specialised security training slots to Palestinians in various disciplines during the year 1997-98, which accounted for an estimated expenditure of Rs. 55 lakhs. India also continued to offer 8 scholarships under ICCR Schemes to Palestinian students for higher studies in India, while also offering several slots for training courses under the ITEC Programme.

India added more than 50 training slots, at a cost of Rs. 40.63 lakhs, to Palestinian personnel for specialised training courses during the financial year 1998-99, where 58 Palestinian officers completed their training. During the financial year 1999-2000, 38 more Palestinian officers utilised the facilities for training.[4] In October 2008 PAP President Abbas visited New Delhi where he met with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh who announced an assistance of US$20 million to the Palestinian Authority and promised to do all New Delhi can to help it in the PNA's endeavours.[19]

 

[Backbencher]

I as a teenager always had a positive view for the arab countries .
Let me tell u blackeagle my best friend faraz talha hails from Riyadh however he had his education in India with me . I've heard a lot of stories about arab , it culture its people from faraz which is one of the reason i have great respest for u guys .
At the end all i can say is may this fraandship of our carries on untill the last of generation .

 

[Mosamania]

Why is that Mossa?

A bunch of Emotional people is what they are.

 

[ashokdeiva]

Indeed, people are jealous to see a strong and prosperous India. You deserve the best guys. You supported our causes eventhough you aren't Muslims. THANK YOU.

and you have been a good trading partner and a reliable partner in many other fields, THANK YOU for that

A bunch of Emotional people is what they are.

Don't worry about that Most Countris people are so, too much of emotion will ruin one self and too much of inteligence will ruine others. To get to the level of same emotion and inteligent quotion (EQ & IQ) it takes time for every country and its people to reach that level.

I think that the Qubans are good with this EQ, IQ balance

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

One major thing i find common between India and the Arab states is both of them are yet to face an event which threatens their existence or national security, promoting them rise up and become self-sufficient and independent.

Both seem very complacent at the moment.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Akkkh I hate being an Arab sometime..............

Typical discusstion between Mosa and Pak:
Mosa: Oh, I love Pakistan, they are our dearest brothers. We will support them no matter what.
****: Yah, of course you Camel Fuckkers, You keep kissing US feet you lowlife nomadic slave.
Mosa: Why is that? we are all Muslims who shouldn't back stab each others like that. We are not angels and so do you.
****: Oh right, I hope Iran and Israel Nuck you, You are animals who don't deserve life.

 

[Rana4pak]

wish you best of luck BLACKEAGLE . :Let the Beauty of Your Heart Blossom

 

[Kambojaric]

@ Blackeagle: This is a serious question, i am not joking or poking fun or something. I wish to know, how will Arab countries react now that India is growing closer to Israel? India is one of the biggest purchasers (1st or 2nd) of Israeli arms and one of its largest trade partners. Bilateral trade excluding arms is around $5 billion. How do Arab countries react when they see this? As said serious question.

 

[King Solomon]

Typical discusstion between Mosa and Pak:
Mosa: Oh, I love Pakistan, they are our dearest brothers. We will support them no matter what.
****: Yah, of course you Camel Fuckkers, You keep kissing US feet you lowlife nomadic slave.
Mosa: Why is that? we are all Muslims who shouldn't back stab each others like that. We are not angels and so do you.
****: Oh right, I hope Iran and Israel Nuck you, You are animals who don't deserve life.

Is this topic your reaction to the way you have been busted here? http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/179980-battle-yarmouk-3.html

Come on, be a man and learn to tolerate and argue opposing viewpoints. Don't act like a little girl by beating around the bush.

 

[1ndy]

Akkkh I hate being an Arab sometime..............

Are you king of Arab??? NO!
Who cares then?

 

[Kambojaric]

Typical discusstion between Mosa and Pak:
Mosa: Oh, I love Pakistan, they are our dearest brothers. We will support them no matter what.
****: Yah, of course you Camel Fuckkers, You keep kissing US feet you lowlife nomadic slave.
Mosa: Why is that? we are all Muslims who shouldn't back stab each others like that. We are not angels and so do you.
****: Oh right, I hope Iran and Israel Nuck you, You are animals who don't deserve life.

So you will judge a whole nation based on what a few members say on a forum?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

On the lighter side:

Indian borat with his interactions in Arabia.

How to Belly Dance: Wilbur Sargunaraj - YouTube

 

[Mosamania]

Typical discusstion between Mosa and Pak:
Mosa: Oh, I love Pakistan, they are our dearest brothers. We will support them no matter what.
****: Yah, of course you Camel Fuckkers, You keep kissing US feet you lowlife nomadic slave.
Mosa: Why is that? we are all Muslims who shouldn't back stab each others like that. We are not angels and so do you.
****: Oh right, I hope Iran and Israel Nuck you, You are animals who don't deserve life.

That is actually fairly accurate. But if being a doormat as you say is the way for our people to finally meet eye to eye and bridge our gaps then I will happily be a doormat. An Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind.