Anza Draws First Blood In Kargil

[Gandalf]

Even Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail(rtd.) who was the Director of Operations of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) during the Kargil conflict. accepted that MIG-27 crashed due to engine problems:

After two IAF fighters and a helicopter were lost – a MiG-21 and a Mi-17 to Pak Army surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), while a MiG-27 went down due to engine trouble caused by gun gas ingestion during high altitude strafing. (Incidentally, the pilot of the MiG-27 Flt Lt Nachiketa, who ejected and was apprehended, had a tête-à-tête with this author during an interesting ‘interrogation’ session.)

Aeronaut: Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force

 

[Slayer786]

Even Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail(rtd.) who was the Director of Operations of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) during the Kargil conflict. accepted that MIG-27 crashed due to engine problems:

But our Anza hit the mark on your Mig-21 and the helicopter. That is enough for now.

 

[xyxmt]

But failed to score hits on aircrafts with some sort of ECMs, like Mirage 2000s or Mig-29s.

that was 14 years ago, who knows about next time

 

[Windjammer]

that was 14 years ago, who knows about next time

Now that you have revamped the four year old thread, here's the story of the Anza hit on the Indian AN-32 transport aircraft which strayed into Pakistan air space,



The AN-32 Incident of air violation.

New Delhi, 22 March 2002

On 19th February an AN 32 flown by Air Marshal Vinod K Bhatia, to inaugurate the extended Kargil airfield, crossed the LOC for some 11 minutes and was hit by an ANZA missile fired by the Pakistanis. The aircraft lost one engine but successfully landed at Leh airfield on the other engine.
Air Marshal M S Sekhon (who has since resigned) carried out a Board of Inquiry into this incident and media reports say that both former Air Chiefs S K Kaul and Sareen have dubbed it a minor incident. On the other hand IDC believes that an aircraft flying 12 Km away from its path, that too over enemy territory, when both sides are in a mobilised state cannot be brushed off as a minor matter.
Air Marshal V K Bhatia reportedly said that he was only the co-pilot and put the blame squarely on the Navigator and the Pilot a Wing Commander.
The sacking of Sekhon has had a fallout on the court of inquiry that he had been asked to conduct by Krishnaswamy before the Badal letter was made public. Sekhon was probing a February 19 incident in which an AN-32 transporter plane piloted by Bhatia had crossed the loc after being hit by a Pakistani missile while trying to land in Kargil. While Bhatia was piloting the aircraft, Flt-Lieutenant V. Awasthy was navigating it. Wing Commander S.C. Chafekar was the co-pilot. It seems that while making a landing approach towards Kargil airport Bhatia flew too close to the loc and was hit by a Pakistani missile. In order to steady the aircraft and gain height, Bhatia went across the loc over the Batalik sector. He was subsequently able to land at Leh airport. With both India and Pakistan involved in a military stand-off, the consequences would have been disastrous had the plane got downed in "enemy territory".

In the inquiry report submitted to Air Headquarters on March 8, Sekhon has confirmed that Bhatia had indeed crossed the loc and been hit by a Pakistani missile. In his defence, Bhatia has raised objections on the inquiry being conducted by an air officer junior to him in service. Bhatia has also pointed out that it was the duty of Awasthy and Chafekar to inform him that he was not going in the direction of the Kargil airport but the loc. Army chief General S. Padmanabhan personally checked the facts at Kargil later. The army confirmed that the aircraft was hit by an enemy missile and not by "friendly fire."

 

[Gregor Clegane]

Indian authorities will go to any length to discredit Pakistani achievements.....according to the same sources, the IAF never crossed the border but here bursts the bubble where two aircraft are shot down over Pakistan territory and one pilot who managed to eject ends up captured by the PA.
Another fact people are ignoring is that Anza is meant for low flying aircraft, where as the likes of Mirage-2000 adopted to high level attacks which according to some reports weren't as successful as it's portrayed mainly due to the terrain and the low cloud cover often experienced in this area. !!

Your own Director of Ops during Kargil said that MiG-27 crashed due to Engine trouble:

while a MiG-27 went down due to engine trouble caused by gun gas ingestion during high altitude strafing.

 

[Windjammer]

Your own Director of Ops during Kargil said that MiG-27 crashed due to Engine trouble:

That was the claim made by the Indian pilot, It doesn't take a genius to work out where the guns are located on MiG-27.
No where near the intake.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

That was the claim made by the Indian pilot, It doesn't take a genius to work out where the guns are located on MiG-27.
No where near the intake.

He never mentioned it as the Indian claim or anything. Anyways a statement by your Director has far more value than a fanboy like you.
Not really, gun gas is a major problem for Single engine fighters at high altitude especially for Gsh-30 series which produces a lot of exhaust.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

that was 14 years ago, who knows about next time

Next time came pretty quickly.

The Inter-Service Public Relations chief said that Indian planes had carried out four to five sorties to bomb Pakistani positions at an altitude of 16,900 feet.

http://www.dawn.com/news/54032/indian-land-air-attack-repulsed-pakistan-terms-act-highly-escalatory

 

[Windjammer]

He never mentioned it as the Indian claim or anything. Anyways a statement by your Director has far more value than a fanboy like you.
Not really, gun gas is a major problem for Single engine fighters at high altitude especially for Gsh-30 series which produces a lot of exhaust.

Yea when it saves some Indians neck, Pakistani source suddenly becomes credible for a loser like you.
When your enemy is firing at you, you don't exactly stand observing the effects, this was the claim made by the victim pilot, just as reported by Kaiser Tufail.

Wings Of Shame
The controversy surrounding the air force brass is affecting India's readiness against Pakistan

By Shishir Gupta
http://archives.digitaltoday.in/indiatoday/20020401/defence.html

 

[xyxmt]

Next time came pretty quickly.


http://www.dawn.com/news/54032/indian-land-air-attack-repulsed-pakistan-terms-act-highly-escalatory

thats 2002 idiot, 14 years ago.
i dont know why were you laughing, at your stupidity maybe

I love the fact how Indian claims IAF ruled the Skies in Kargil war, and I find it a responsibility of every intelligent person to point out that every Air Force rules in their own skies.

 

[Windjammer]

thats 2002 idiot, 14 years ago.
i dont know why were you laughing, at your stupidity maybe

May be because they lost over a dozen soldiers without causing a single casualty.

 

[xyxmt]

May be because they lost over a dozen soldiers without causing a single casualty.

not to mention a fighter plane and a heli....yet they rules the skies

 

[danger007]

Wah opened 4yrs old thread just to troll.. Idiots..

 

[Windjammer]

@xyxmt , no matter how many you squash, there's always more crawling on PDF.

 

[xyxmt]

@xyxmt , no matter how many you squash, there's always more crawling on PDF.

LOL at your signature