Aleppo Clashes Threaten to Spill into Turkish Territory

[F117]

@F117 might have an answer

Firstly, do not refer to them as ISIS. Their name is: ad-Dawla al-Islāmiyya fi al-'Iraq wa-sh-Sham. Practice this a few times, if you can't remember it.

Second, they do not need worldly or material pleasures, like friends and alliances. They are highly motivated warriors who practice Jihad in the name of Allah alone, against the secular thugs and spreaders of immorality (Nusra/FSA). This allows them to fight on multiple fronts simultaneously.

Insha'Allah, they will defeat the foreign mercenaries (Nusra/FSA) and then bring True Islam to the places it is badly needed: Saudi Arabia, and Jordan. Turkey will certainly not be spared.

Allah knows best.

 

[LegionnairE]

The problem with this situation is that no matter what you do you are doomed. If you let them capture the tomb and dont react we have 25 sehit and look like push overs. If you react and reinforce or secure the area around the tomb they will do car bombs in turkey and we will have to fight assad (openly) because he will attacj our airforce. Maybe we can make an agreement with assad to let us reinforce the tomb but why would he let us do that? At this point something bad is bound to happen.

We should've invaded Syria 3 years ago, better yet, we should've invaded Syria in 1990s when they sheltered PKK terrorists. Every day we don't invade Syria is a day wasted Some pacifist hippies will always argue with me but what do they know?

ISIL,ISIS, IŞID, whatever the **** they are we should send in maroon berets and hunt them down like dogs

 

[Hakan]

We should've invaded Syria 3 years ago, better yet, we should've invaded Syria in 1990s when they sheltered PKK terrorists. Every day we don't invade Syria is a day wasted Some pacifist hippies will always argue with me but what do they know?

ISIL,ISIS, IŞID, whatever the **** they are we should send in maroon berets and hunt them down like dogs

We should have dealt with this situation when it first started. Now look at the mess we have to deal with. Refugees, PKK, ISHIT.

 

[LegionnairE]

We should have dealt with this situation when it first started. Now look at the mess we have to deal with. Refugees, PKK, ISHIT.

Hopefully after the elections we'll have a government change and there's no way CHP will communicate with al-nusra or whatever thugs AKP hired in Syria. We'll do what we always did before AKP came, rely on our military to take care of shit.

 

[Hakan]

Hopefully after the elections we'll have a government change and there's no way CHP will communicate with al-nusra or whatever thugs AKP hired in Syria. We'll do what we always did before AKP came, rely on our military to take care of shit.

A smart fish doesn't take the bait.

 

[Full Moon]

Something is interesting about ISIL.they have no allies and everyone is their enemy.Forget about conspiracy theories. They are against Assad, rebels,Kurds, west and now Turks. But they have remained strong till now and have owned other rebels groups in many battles. Makes me wonder why they are so good at fighting. Is it because they are nutjobs who have no fear of death or because they have better experience from fighting in Iraq?

Turkey should weigh its decisions, because it doesn't like their name to be changed to ISILT.If you want to strike them, do it in a way that they can't get on their feet again. Also Turkey should stop supporting only one side in this conflict because it has done more harm than good to its interests.

Yeah, a perfectly legitimate dilemma. Let me solve your complicated “puzzle”. They are pro Asad, but their real loyalty will be reveled in the right time (when they get the order to do so).

Nice attempt buddy.

 

[Serpentine]

Yeah, a perfectly legitimate dilemma. Let me solve your complicated “puzzle”. They are pro Asad, but their real loyalty will be reveled in the right time (when they get the order to do so).

Nice attempt buddy.

Yes they are pro Assad, while a great deal of their members are Saudis.
Assad bombs and kills their members and they go suicide bombing against SAA targets and the same time, they are allies.
They murder Allawites, Shias, Christians and they are 'pro Assad' too.

Lies like this don't work anymore, nice try.

 

[Full Moon]

Yes they are pro Assad, while a great deal of their members are Saudis.
Assad bombs and kills their members and they go suicide bombing against SAA targets and the same time, they are allies.
They murder Allawites, Shias, Christians and they are 'pro Assad' too.

Lies like this don't work anymore, nice try.

The plan won’t work if they don't intentionally make it confusing. There would have to be some serious (and perhaps devoted) extremists among them. Killing Allawites for the sake of superficial legitimacy is one of their “must do” things. This is an old strategy of Al Asad family’s regime which they immensely and repeatedly did it for the entire 16 years of the Lebanese Civil War.

 

[Serpentine]

The plan won’t work if they don't intentionally make it confusing. There would have to be some serious (and perhaps devoted) extremists among them. Killing Allawites for the sake of superficial legitimacy is one of their “must do” things. This is an old strategy of Al Assad family’s regime which they immensely and repeatedly did it for the entire 16 years of the Lebanese Civil War.

Tell that to your fellow Saudi Arabians who call the same ISIL in Iraq as 'Brave people of Al Anbar' and see them in Syria as eternal enemies, only because they have kicked rebels' arses there.
These ridiculous conspiracy theories and hypocrisy only work in Gulf countries.
@doritos

 

[Full Moon]

Tell that to your fellow Saudi Arabians who call the same ISIL in Iraq as 'Brave people of Al Anbar' and see them in Syria as eternal enemies, only because they have kicked rebels' arses there.
These ridiculous conspiracy theories and hypocrisy only work in Gulf countries.
@doritos

I don’t care what others may say, or think about this. Let alone those who go and join them. Anybody can be misled here, it is a dirty war after all. Even those who run it on daily basis don’t know all of its details.

 

[Serpentine]

I don’t care what others may say, or think about this. Let alone those who go and join them. Anybody can be misled here, it is a dirty war after all. Even those who run it on daily basis don’t know all of its details.

The only thing I agree with you is that, it's a dirty way indeed.

 

[F117]

@Serpentine it's indeed good if our enemies believe ISIS is an Iranian creation. We should help advance this myth. It will encourage more suspicion and infighting.

 

[Hakan]

New Developments​

• Turkish Maroon Berets are ready for an operation to protect the tomb.
• Jets are on high alert. (Able to take off in 5 minutes).
• Armored units have been moved to the border.
• SAM's have been moved towards the border.
• Artillery has been deployed .

Asker operasyona hazır - Milliyet Haber
Turkey Vows Action to Defend Tomb in Syria From Al-Qaeda - Bloomberg
Süleyman Şah Türbesi'ne IŞİD tehdidi, Suriye sınırında yoğun önlem-HABERTÜRK


(I hope I translated correctly)

 

[Hakan]

ISIL Divided over attack on Tomb​

Speaking to Al Jazeera Turk, the leader of the Turkmen Kerama Brigade in the nearby town of Karakozak, Zekeriya Karsli, said that the ISIL are planning an attack on the tomb but are divided by differing opinions within their group.

According to Karsli, some ISIL rebels have deemed an attack on the tomb as unnecessary and too risky, and have therefore decided to withdraw from the Karakozak village. However, the ISIL maintain a presence in the region, where they are constantly clashing with other opposition groups, in which their commander Abu Hashim Al-Suudi is believed to have been injured.

ISIL deadline for Turkish pull-out from Suleiman Shah tomb expires | General | Worldbulletin News

 

[Shah9]

ISIS emerges as threat to Turkey - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East