‘Afraid of US’: Turkey slams ‘weak’ response of some Arab countries to Trump’s Jerusalem move

[mike2000 is back]

nothing has two faces!!!!!!!!! Everything has a face and a back....

The different between Nazis and Muslims is that NAZI clearly claimed what they want to do(everyone who read Mein Kampf befor ww2 did exactly know what Hitler wants) ... and asked no one for understanding or acceptance or tollerance...

The big different is in the name of Muslim religion you ask the world for tollerance and understanding... and you give zerro to other religions...

There is not a single christian country in the world were it is forbidden to own a coran... in Saudi Arabis it is forbidden... lets talk about tollerance...

In Muslim dominated country all around the world other religion are under extrem pressure... such behaivor you dont find in nations against muslims with a muslim minority.


BTW because exactly of our HISTORY the behaivor of muslims in Germany calling for intifada bruning national symbols and try to attack synagog is NOT ACCEPTABLE ...



The problem is .... they are lot more than "some idiots"... pretty normal that you find in every society around the world the same ammount of bad people/idots... what is shocking is the number and that all over europe not only in Germany...as we have learned the same happend in Sweden...

During the last pro palestina demonstration in Munic, the muslim organisator decited to stop the demonstration because the largest part of the young muslims completely went out of controll... he finished the demonstration with the word "you act like animals"....that to his own muslim brothers...

During the demonstration they tryed to attack a small group of pro israel demonstrators (three people with a falg and a banner) and that with police nearby (they even ignored the german police as they told them to stay away from the three and directly attacked the three pro israel protester under the eyes of the police...as the police grabbed the attacker and pushed them unfriendly to the side they screamed like litte babys because of the unfair police brutality...

there are to often and to many "some idiots" ... not acceptable

http://www.huffingtonpost.de/2017/12/09/demonstraton-muenchen-israel_n_18769626.html

Well, it depends. Most Muslims countries in the middle east, North Africa and South Asia to a lesser extent have laws that limits or prohibits other religions like Christianity, Buddhists etc from publicly/openly preaching their religion or converting Muslims. This kind of law is not that prevalent in Christian countries in Europe, America, Australia etc simply because of history and religion. Many developed Christian countries are less religious nowadays and they are less inclined to formulate laws that limits the preaching /conversion of other religions other than Christianity. So they have outgrown that era and thinking. Even if you tried to passed such a law in any European, American country it won't even been considered for debate in Parliament. Since it will be a non issue(nobody will support it)

So I don't think we can blame Muslim countries for being more religious and less tolerant of other religions to preach to (and convert) their people. It's their country and religion, so they are free to do as they please. They have a different way of seeing things, different culture, values, religion and way of life. So we can't expect them to be like us or adopt our laws in regards to religion. So the fact that Christian countries in the west don't have such restrictive laws doesn't means Muslim countries should follow their lead. Every country is different.

 

[royalharris]

The strong tough guy should fight a war Israel to get back Jerusalem for your Muslim brother

 

[YeBeWarned]

Well, it depends. Most Muslims countries in the middle east, North Africa and South Asia to a lesser extent have laws that limits or prohibits other religions like Christianity, Buddhists etc from publicly/openly preaching their religion or converting Muslims. This kind of law is not that prevalent in Christian countries in Europe, America, Australia etc simply because of history and religion. Many developed Christian countries are less religious nowadays and they are else's inclined to formulate laws that limits the preaching /conversion of other religions other than Christianity. So they have outgrown that era and thinking. Eve if you tried to passed such a law in any European, American country it won't even been considered for debate in Parliament. Since it will be a non issue.

So I don't think we can blame Muslim countries for being more religious and less intolerant of other religions to preach and convert their people. It's their country and religion, so they are free to do as they please. They have a different way of seeing things, different culture, values, religion and way of life. So we can't expect them to be like is or adopt our laws in regards to religion. . So the fact that Christian countries in the west don't have such restrictive laws doesn't means Muslim countries should follow their lead. Every country is different.

Very nicely explained .. Kudos bro
But I'd like to add few things here as well the transformation of western societies from a religious dominant to more liberal one takes a very bloody road , millions died in that process but they make it ,as for Islam let me tell you brother that Islam does call for tolerance but to some extent , in fact at the times of prophet Christian and Jews were considered part of the collective ummah ( or at least that's what he intended ) so these two religions were free to practice their faith and build their places of worship madina and later taking Jerusalem by umar bin khatab was prime example for that , as for today the in almost all so called Islamic countries the laws are corrupted by national interests , prime example for this is Saudis not liking Iranians presences in mecca and madina and some times even banning them to perform hajj.

As a person who married a non Muslim girl I can tell you that Islam stands for tolerance when I was getting married the cleric who get us married ask my wife separately in the presence of police and judge if she is forced by anyone and if she taking the oath willingy , the cleric also told my wife she can keep her faith as she is consider people of the book and even offer her to pray in the mosque of court if she wants .

As for that German guy and his argument I agree partially and disagree as well violent protests happen every where all the time recent examples are France and USA where protests turned into violence .but I also agree that under any circumstance one should not hurt others in protest or break any laws .. In fact Islam forbid destroying non military targets during the war time let alone it will allow in protests .

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Again, you are stereotyping the Muslims...Rather, let the culprit be accountable for their crime or whatever may be. If he is a German citizen, let him identify as your citizen who did it. Did you ever name any Christian German people as Christian when they commit crime? So why to single out Muslims in particular?

Big surprise, when the identity of two of the arsonists attacking Synagogues were revealed.
One Palestinian, and one Syrian...

 

[Trango Towers]

Erdogan had very strong response: he said 1000 times strong response. Soon he will say 2000 times strong response. Probably even 3000 times.

Ergodan is the beginning of your end. soon no Zionist will be safe

 

[ValerioAurelius]

This entire topic is laughable. Of course Jerusalem is capital of Israel. All head of states go there at state visits, so this is a no brainer.

I hate diplomatic fictions where all ignore the obvious.

 

[BHarwana]

This entire topic is laughable. Of course Jerusalem is capital of Israel. All head of states go there at state visits, so this is a no brainer.

I hate diplomatic fictions where all ignore the obvious.

https://twitter.com/x/status/941022138441576448

 

[ValerioAurelius]

https://twitter.com/x/status/941022138441576448

That event was labelled as hot air event in european media.

The world actually is tired of this shit.

In the end its an easy question, i, as a christian can move freely in Jerusalem under Israel. I could not under Palestine. Case closed.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Georg everything as "two faces". Some more than others. You as a German should be more aware than most. Your grand-parents set a world record in how many Jews you could toast in the minimum time. Today you guy's actively go out of your way to be apologetic to the grand-children of those who you toasted on epic scale.

Now what was that you said about "two faced"?

Or the raping of russians or killing of not just jews but also gypsies.

Yet today they talk about human rights this and human rights that. LOL

They behaved civilized for only 50 years and this makes them more civilized than others somehow?

I think the racism and hate is still there deep inside, "I am white so I am better, I am not 2 faced, I know more about human rights blablabla".

White privilege...

 

[BHarwana]

That event was labelled as hot air event in european media.

The world actually is tired of this shit.

In the end its an easy question, i, as a christian can move freely in Jerusalem under Israel. I could not under Palestine. Case closed.

Well as a christian you have lost today because of Trump because the tomb of Christ is in east Jerusalem and it is the capital of Palestine. This hot air had more impact than the one from Trump.

 

[cabatli_53]

No comment... Just Watch !

 

[Solomon2]

...but I also agree that under any circumstance one should not hurt others in protest or break any laws .. In fact Islam forbid destroying non military targets during the war time let alone it will allow in protests .

And therefore it's O.K. for Israeli Jewish soldiers to kill murder-mongering Muslims in a necessary act of self-defense and by extension defend their lawful homes and property with deadly force.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Well as a christian you have lost today because of Trump because the tomb of Christ is in east Jerusalem and it is the capital of Palestine. This hot air had more impact than the one from Trump.

There is no palestine. Since EU and USA both dont accept palestine i lost nothing. Reality is that entire jeruswlem is under israel control

 

[YeBeWarned]

And therefore it's O.K. for Israeli Jewish soldiers to kill murder-mongering Muslims in a necessary act of self-defense and by extension defend their lawful homes and property with deadly force.

No, An Occupier can justify murdering someone in the name of self Defense , and if that so than the Muslims Fighting in ME from US and Israelie Occupation is also justified , if they are Terrorist so does the Israel and US.

 

[925boy]

Bro I have lived most of my life with Arabs and they hate their leaders. If you don't agree that's fine. In Saudi Arabia the powder keg is lit. Just a matter of time

But when the arab spring came we thought they wanted to actually get rid of these "leaders they hate"(according to you) but instead what they mostly did was just take out their frustration on other people/groups. lol