Afghanis are....

[Thorough Pro]

The real " Namak Harams" were Americans who killed LAK, Afghanis were just a cheap sell out tool...............the irony is despite knowing that too well our leadership is still sucking up to the same Killers.

According to the CIA disclassified State Dept documents, the CIA began to search for an assassin to kill Pakistan first PM Liaquat Khan. They could not find a suitable shooter in Pakistan and then turned to Afghanistan for this purpose.

The Afghan government of King Mohammed Zahir Shah had finally found a man, named Syed Akbar, to take the task and also made arrangements for him to be killed.

According to the report, Khan called on Washington to vacate air bases in Pakistan which the United States was using against the Soviet Union, upon which then-US President Harry S. Truman threatened the PM with dire consequences.

Afghani Namak haram thay aur raheengay... kick these a******** from Pakistan.... this is 70 years old Story about Liaquat Ali Khan and a Afghani Killer.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Pure speculation and village mentality..

village people are also human but bozos like you are not

 

[Rajput Kshatriya]

they are Muslims as well. its not good to label your own people like this.

 

[khansaheeb]

How come Pakistani history books fail to mention that it was an Afghan who assassinated one of our founding fathers?

The surviving families of PM Liaquat Khan should sue the CIA for $billions.

 

[HamWatan]

Blame Pakistan's retarded idea of expressing religious solidarity to every aera ghaira even those who don't deserve it.

 

[krash]

Pakistani pushtoon tribals destroyed kashmir cause they only looted locals. Its abt time that gets discussed instead of continuous lies peddling abt tribals winning over gb and ajk.
I have relatives from occupied kashmir who later abandoned kashmir and left for abroad for good and these are the stories they share abt happenings of 48 kashmir war.

Mal-e-ghaneemant is what they said.

ps: The tribals never entered GB. It was the then Gilgit scouts, now amalgamated into the famous NLI, which liberated GB and then handed it over to Pakistan.

You are utterly wrong here my friend.
Pakistani tribals fought in kashmir not afghans.
Afghans didnt stop ussr, they didnt have the capacity to do so, the govt in kabul was the one who welcomed the red army in afghanistan, we stopped the ussr to protect ourselves because they wanted acess to warm waters through balochistan, it was isi and countless ssg and army perosnel that went to afghanistan to create the group called taliban, we lead that group to victory using local manpower, we stopped the ussr, afghans didnt.
The afghans we hate are the segment of their society wholich brands itself as the northern alliance, the pashtuns are mostly pro pakistan via taliban whom we controlled and lead again to trap usa in afghanistan, they didnt have the capacity themselves, again isi and ssg operatives took the helm there.

1) We never created the Taliban. They were formed organically after the soviets had left, read up on it. We accepted them out of necessity after they were all that Afghanistan had on offer. We didn't even create the Mujahideen, we merely supported them during the war.

2) "The NA hates us but pushtoon Afghans love us" is another lie being spread in our people. Try talking to an Afghan pushtoon some time.

 

[Sine Nomine]

There were no Taliban at USSRs times. There were groups like Hizb e Islami , Jamiat e Islami and Jumbish e milli etc.
There are two segments of Afghan society. One is political, other is no political.
Non-political people are with Pakistan(mostly). Political people and the people close to them are not. That's the point, basically. All I write here, is for better and stronger Pakistan. Think about that. I see Afghanistan as an extension of Pakistan. I may be wrong, may be I am, but what to do when some don't let sleep.

Over 99.99% folks can't understand what you want to say.
That is behind all doubt an extension of Pakistan,with almost same casts,customs,religion and culture.People's in kabul in there best interest desire a divide to continue there rule,in which we have idiots who are heling them.

 

[Ocean]

Mal-e-ghaneemant is what they said.

ps: The tribals never entered GB. It was the then Gilgit scouts, now amalgamated into the famous NLI, which liberated GB and then handed it over to Pakistan.



1) We never created the Taliban. They were formed organically after the soviets had left, read up on it. We accepted them out of necessity after they were all that Afghanistan had on offer. We didn't even create the Mujahideen, we merely supported them during the war.

2) "The NA hates us but pushtoon Afghans love us" is another lie being spread in our people. Try talking to an Afghan pushtoon some time.

Yup and funny thing is muslim tribals were taking those Muslims kashmiris belongings as maal e ganimat who had to be helped by them against hindus. What bayghairat ppl who engaged in that. No wonder their offsprings produced worst terrorists in pakistans history.

 

[Asian.Century]

Only solution to Afghanis are bully them as much as possible cuz they are....!

 

[Kambojaric]

Wrong.
You cannot put blame on entire nation for one person.
We had a polish individual who took out Chris Hani, does it mean we demonish all Poles?

On an individual basis it is wrong to generalize. Where there is a pattern however only a fool would convince himself that everything is lovely jubbly. Afghanistan was the only country in the world which tried to bloc Pakistan's entry to the UN (Poland never adopted diplomatic hostility towards SA). Afghanistan claims half of Pakistani territory as theirs/ irredentism (Poland does not claim SA territory). Afghanistan soldiers have crossed into Pakistan territory to claim it and been pushed back by force on numerous occasions through the decades (Poland and SA have never been hostile afaik except during the Nazi occupation).
So yes on an individual level it would be wrong to use one guys actions to generalize another nations attitude towards yours. However where there is a pattern only a fool would close his eyes.

The new Pakistani generation has had enough of Afghanistan and it's irredentist hostility (which bodes very badly for the landlocked country).

 

[TMA]

On an individual basis it is wrong to generalize. Where there is a pattern however only a fool would convince himself that everything is lovely jubbly. Afghanistan was the only country in the world which tried to bloc Pakistan's entry to the UN (Poland never adopted diplomatic hostility towards SA). Afghanistan claims half of Pakistani territory as theirs/ irredentism (Poland does not claim SA territory). Afghanistan soldiers have crossed into Pakistan territory to claim it and been pushed back by force on numerous occasions through the decades (Poland and SA have never been hostile afaik except during the Nazi occupation).
So yes on an individual level it would be wrong to use one guys actions to generalize another nations attitude towards yours. However where there is a pattern only a fool would close his eyes.

The new Pakistani generation has had enough of Afghanistan and it's irredentist hostility (which bodes very badly for the landlocked country).

Bravo! People don't know the difference between generalisations to an individual level and then generalisations to the macro level.

 

[ziaulislam]

I am not well versed with those aspects so i cannot comment; but also if your country had engaged and stablised Afghanistan instead of letting lose jihadi to take control; many would have gone back and entire region would have been better off. Regretfully your govt and agencies used and manipulated the situations.

Here is tee he dilemma...a strong Afghanistan has always been a pain the *** for Pakistan..they have bombed, attacked, supported openly militants throughout history...based upon 100s year old claims all Pakistan and has not officially accepted Pakistan as a country

Normally you would see war and diplomatic hostility but given blood relations with pushtoons a very leinet approach has been taken but the patience of Pakistanis are running out

So if we Afghanistan develops what's the grantee it won't openly be aggresive

If it remains turmoil how are we going to handle 5 million refugees and probably more if things get worse

Pakistan wanted stability so first it supported talks between mujahedeen that failed than it supported whoever was winning by giving diplomatic support and opening up trade hoping that 10 million refugees (size of Austrilia back than) would go back home

What would anyone have done..? Support war lords?

Had Pakistan military supported the Taliban they would have over run all Afghanistan in months rather than failing in years to do so

 

[pzfz]

I am not well versed with those aspects so i cannot comment; but also if your country had engaged and stablised Afghanistan instead of letting lose jihadi to take control; many would have gone back and entire region would have been better off. Regretfully your govt and agencies used and manipulated the situations.

You admit you're not well versed and proceed to proscribe blame? A more apt analogy that you might relate to is if one of the former bush war adversaries and/or angola with the help of the communists first deny your existence, vote against your independence at the UN, sponsor terrorism, invade your territory, assassinate your president, claim half your territory, deny agency to African South Africans, and claim to be the sole representatives of Africans in South Africa...this is all before the Taliban - which are an Afghan, native, indigenous phenomenon - or afghanistani refugees infested the region. Truth be told the Pakistani gov't and agencies have been too soft on Kabul.

 

[TMA]

You admit you're not well versed and proceed to proscribe blame? A more apt analogy that you might relate to is if one of the former bush war adversaries and/or angola with the help of the communists first deny your existence, vote against your independence at the UN, sponsor terrorism, invade your territory, assassinate your president, claim half your territory, deny agency to African South Africans, and claim to be the sole representatives of Africans in South Africa...this is all before the Taliban - which are an Afghan, native, indigenous phenomenon - or afghanistani refugees infested the region. Truth be told the **** gov't and agencies have been too soft on Kabul.

Well said. it is time to get Pakistan's narrative across...

 

[denel]

You admit you're not well versed and proceed to proscribe blame? A more apt analogy that you might relate to is if one of the former bush war adversaries and/or angola with the help of the communists first deny your existence, vote against your independence at the UN, sponsor terrorism, invade your territory, assassinate your president, claim half your territory, deny agency to African South Africans, and claim to be the sole representatives of Africans in South Africa...this is all before the Taliban - which are an Afghan, native, indigenous phenomenon - or afghanistani refugees infested the region. Truth be told the **** gov't and agencies have been too soft on Kabul.

We have gone thru a lot but look at Angola and Mozambique now, complete stablisation. A stable neighbourhood is good. Unfortunately, the truth is Afghanistan is a proxy play ground for all the neighbouring powers and the population of afghanistan is letting them run the show.