A religious question

[LaBong]

well there has always been need for humans to fly.....
in pre history humans could better save thrmselves from being eaten by chasing lions and tigers if they could fly.....same for gathering food and hunting....A flying man could see larger area...and reach.food quicker than a walking man.
and the need to travel......

so yes there has always been a need to fly for us humans....but darwenian evution did not give us wings...while it happily gave wings to the dinosaurs...and they are now called parrot..and pigeon instead of tyranosaurus rex .

Here are some keywords for you to Google - Missing Links, Species, Sub-Species, Genus, Class, Taxonomy.

 

[Mech]

"human beings, the epitome of his creation?"

The concept that human beings are the epitome of God's creation has been proved incorrect repeatedly and conclusively over and over again during the brief history of mankind. The last of the great physicists/mathematicians/astronomers to have proved that Earth was not the center of the Universe but rather, an insignificant little planet orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant corner of an insignificant galaxy which itself is in an insignificant corner of the Universe was none other than Galileo Gelilei.
Charles Darwin a naturalist proved that human beings, the most numerous inhabitant of planet Earth are in no way highly significant themselves but are rather, descendants of lesser creatures and the end product a long evolutionary process involving numerous other animal species and that humans would eventually be superseded by other species to which humans would eventually evolve.

These concepts of "So God created man in his own image.......(Genesis 1:27)" and ".........the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. (Psalm 93:1, King James)" are biblical statements which are echoed in all Abrahamic religions and which have no scientific basis whatsoever.

Man is unique, that is all. He is not the greatest as Man will evolve into other species better adapted to living on Earth (perhaps a species more tolerant to high levels of CO2 and higher temperature). We will eventually get their if we give ourselves enough time and not blow each other up before that happens. The probability of other life forms far more intelligent and capable than us is very much a reality and drives scientific endeavors further deeper into space.

The Hindu belief is that the only constant in all creation is change itself. All things change. Life and death are an unending cycle. All species existing today will die out to be replaced by others just as others have died out to make way for those existing today.

The question you have posed exists only in the realm of misplaced and misinformed antiquated spirituality.

Regards.

You say "proved". What Darwin did was "theorize". There is a great difference between a scientifically proven statement and an ambiguous theory.

 

[Safriz]

(keeping this thing away that either its full true or not)

according to scientists a smaller step in scientific evolution in species is of 10000 years , its not just like that you u want to fly and you start flying ,
its natural genes CGS*:*Genetic Selection
if your species have the required genes and it gets mutated in 10000 years it will be one step and after several steps ur species might change or might not.
and there are other scientific theories also alternative to evolution theory.
moderns human history is 5000 bc aprox
prehistoric human records 15000 to 10000 are aprox..

so by that calculation...isnt it impossible for baboons to turn into you and me in such a small amount of time.?

 

[LaBong]

Also Fossils, should be a good read at understanding evolution.

 

[gubbi]

Evolution like any other theory...is exactly what it is. A THEORY. To date there has been no scientific data backing Evolution. What scientists do , is they "assume" evolution as a fact and then proceed to explain various biological phenomenon on the basis of that assumption.

Is that the best defense you've got?
Ok, agreed that its a theory. But then you forget that this theory has been supported by scientific evidence and all evidence till date points to the fact that this theory is indeed true. Oh, btw, when you swear by "theory of relativity' or the 'theory of electrodynamics" or the 'Peizoelectric theory' - all their real world practical applications included, you do remember that those are theories, right?
Now, compare and contrast scientific theories to fairy tales.

 

[StandForInsaf]

you have few option for that.

1- wait several thousand year and let the evolution decide that you realy need that thing and plus you have the specific gene.
2- pray to God may be he give wings to you and your needs could be fulfilled.
3- go to bazaar buy fake wings and satisfy ur ego.
4- use scientifically made aeroplanes to fullfill your needs.

choice is urs

dude i already answered that question

 

[LaBong]

so by that calculation...isnt it impossible for baboons to turn into you and me in such a small amount of time.?

That's quite baboonish actually, food for thought - Theory of Evolution doesn't say Baboons and Gorillas have turned into Humans, it says all apes have common ancestor(s) from which several species have separated just as brunches of a tree do. Modern Human is one of those species.

 

[Mech]

Is that the best defense you've got?
Ok, agreed that its a theory. But then you forget that this theory has been supported by scientific evidence and all evidence till date points to the fact that this theory is indeed true. Oh, btw, when you swear by "theory of relativity' or the 'theory of electrodynamics" or the 'Peizoelectric theory' - all their real world practical applications included, you do remember that those are theories, right?
Now, compare and contrast scientific theories to fairy tales.

Now, you just proved that you are a man of faith than a man of science.

 

[StandForInsaf]

so by that calculation...isnt it impossible for baboons to turn into you and me in such a small amount of time.?

yap , a theory suggests we evolved from common ancestor(not baboon its homo-erects i think ) some 70000 to 50000 year before
not sure about fully

 

[Mech]

Adolph Hitler said, “If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, and often enough, the people will believe it.” He also said, “People are more likely to believe a big lie than a small one. If you’re going to tell lie, tell a big one. People will believe that.” This is the scenario today. Replace Hitler with the promoters of evolution.

 

[gubbi]

Now, you just proved that you are a man of faith than a man of science.

And how, respected sir, did you arrive at that conclusion?
Believing in fairy tales, for real, clouds your judgement.

 

[LaBong]

Adolph Hitler said, “If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, and often enough, the people will believe it.” He also said, “People are more likely to believe a big lie than a small one. If you’re going to tell lie, tell a big one. People will believe that.” This is the scenario today. Replace Hitler with the promoters of evolution.

Are you for real? There are thousands of proofs which supports theory of evolution, it's a product of hundreds of years of research, not fairy tale which you religious people forced down the throat!

 

[Mech]

From what i understand there are two kinds of evolution..."micro evolution" and "macro evolution". Micro evolution is scientific. It is observable, it is testable. What evolutionists do though, is they show this word “evolve” and make you think that the examples of micro evolution which they are able to give, is somehow magically evidence for macro evolution which is the other meaning of the word. Macro evolution would say the dog and the rose had a common ancestor and the common ancestor was a rock. You wait long enough, the rock will turn into a dog and a rose.

 

[Mech]

If the big bang theory is to be believed...then we are all a product of "nothing".

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The theory of both the creationists and the evolutionists are "religious". There is no point saying otherwise because it simply isn't true.

 

[gubbi]

Seriously, why dont you "believers" simply stick to your beliefs or faith or whatever you want to call and leave the science to real professionals?
When you can question evolution in face of such irrefutable facts which even you - believers - can analyze, then show evidence for the existence of God. Irrefutable evidence. Go ahead, prove evolution is a bag of horse manure. I would like to see your facts - not fairy tales.