So, the count did have a personal tragedy and turned a traitor that invited foreigners to occupy his country. And that is a sufficient excuse to enslave a country for 800 years! Solid logic, man.
??? The muslim spain of Al Andalus initiated a golden age of learning, and tolerance in the Iberian Peninsula, a glorious synthesis of east and west. You obviously have no idea, what science, art, music, philosophy was produced and disseminated during that time, which directly led to the renaissance of Europe. You obviously have no idea, do you? And cannot carry out any conversation or objective reasoning outside the lets hate Pakistan and Muslims paradigm.
There are leaders in Pakistan and almost every Islamic country who look up to USA. You call them traitors, I guess. Is the presence of a small number of such traitors sufficient for a country to be occupied and enslaved for hundreds of years?
What are you on about? Don't go round playing the guessing game. You're juxtaposing views on us, that none of us hold, and then refuting them. Why don't you take over my Avatar and write my posts for me too? That should make it much easier for you.
Don't rapes (sanctioned by your Jirgas) occur regularly in Pakistan and the victims never get justice? A prime case for occupation, I guess. By Islamic sanction, no less.
Since when has the jirga system been called Islamic? Would the excesses of a local village panchayat be attributed to HInduism? Would you, for example, condemn Hinduism when a child is forced to marry a dog and copulate, ostensibly to ward off some perceived evil to the village? Why does every conversation of yours have to end in dengrating Islam or Muslims to some degree? Is this what your Bharatiya secular education has taught you?
So the Somali pirates are sufficient cause for Somalia to be occupied and enslaved for 700 years? Same for the countries bordering the Malacca straits?
Who enslaved whom? No muslim certainly did not enslave any Indian. Maybe the Europeans should have arrived and taken over a little earlier. Lets say the Spanish/Portuge(and not just in the vicinity of Goa). Then you would know what slavery is. I'm sure people like Raja Man singh would not have agreed with you.
Denmark would be justified in occupying Pakistan after their embassy bombing? USA can occupy Saudi Arabia because their people were attacked there?
You cannot use today's geopolitcal considerations and attitudes to pass judgement on what happened 1200 years ago. You have to look at the local dynamics of the time, and the pattern of settlement and invasion that characterised human flows. The muslims were not the first, nor the last to come to India. We had a perfect example in the Aryans before us, whoc certainly did enslave the local population by making them into Shudras and Dalits.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...aring-itself-apart-post208401.html#post208401
Never heard back!
That post was a small and minor list of your 'moderation' and 'tolerance'.
You may have "read" history, you have shown no stomach for truth. I have seen repeated instances of that.
I have seen other instances where people's viewed have been trashed by you because they belonged to ''Dawoodi bohra" or "Ahmedi" or "Shia" sects of Islam, in other words to one of the more than 100 other sects than your own.
I did not trash anyone for being a Shia, or Bohra. You must get yourself checked, you are spending too much time on this forum, and have started hallucinating.
Those comments themselves reeked of the 'tolerance' that you propound here!
How ironic. Getting lectured by Vindo sahb, on the subject of tolerance. That'd be like George Bush professing on becoming peacniks.
