??? The muslim spain of Al Andalus initiated a golden age of learning, and tolerance in the Iberian Peninsula, a glorious synthesis of east and west. You obviously have no idea, what science, art, music, philosophy was produced and disseminated during that time, which directly led to the renaissance of Europe. You obviously have no idea, do you? And cannot carry out any conversation or objective reasoning outside the lets hate Pakistan and Muslims paradigm.
Lets stick to why Spain was invaded and occupied here.
If Spain regarded its occupation so highly why did they get rid of every last trace of that occupation? You only seem to believe in the version of the occupier! Even the British and others talked of the "white man's burden". You are no better in your arguments.
And don't assume whether I have any idea or not. I may have more "idea" than you for all that matters. Lets move on beyond tried and tested rhetoric.
What are you on about? Don't go round playing the guessing game. You're juxtaposing views on us, that none of us hold, and then refuting them. Why don't you take over my Avatar and write my posts for me too? That should make it much easier for you.
Since when has the jirga system been called Islamic? Would the excesses of a local village panchayat be attributed to HInduism? Would you, for example, condemn Hinduism when a child is forced to marry a dog and copulate, ostensibly to ward off some perceived evil to the village? Why does every conversation of yours have to end in dengrating Islam or Muslims to some degree? Is this what your Bharatiya secular education has taught you?
How does it matter if it is Islamic or not? That is the reality in Pakistan. A thousand years of Islam did not change it.
So while ignoring the rubbish in this post about the dog and other BS, if women are being raped it entitles Pakistan to be enslaved as per your logic. That is all I said.
Who enslaved whom? No muslim certainly did not enslave any Indian. Maybe the Europeans should have arrived and taken over a little earlier. Lets say the Spanish/Portuge(and not just in the vicinity of Goa). Then you would know what slavery is. I'm sure people like Raja Man singh would not have agreed with you.
You cannot use today's geopolitcal considerations and attitudes to pass judgement on what happened 1200 years ago. You have to look at the local dynamics of the time, and the pattern of settlement and invasion that characterised human flows. The muslims were not the first, nor the last to come to India. We had a perfect example in the Aryans before us, whoc certainly did enslave the local population by making them into Shudras and Dalits.
Deliberate lies here! Don't you know of the slave traffic conducted by the Arabs? The millions of slaves that were taken to Afghanistan? From your own country.
It is not about today's geopolitical situation at all. It is about those actions were fair and whether you would like the same to be done unto you.
Show me the undeniable proof of AIT, then we can discuss your Aryan hypothesis. It is just a conjecture by some European historians. It is discredited now AFAIK.
I did not trash anyone for being a Shia, or Bohra. You must get yourself checked, you are spending too much time on this forum, and have started hallucinating.
How ironic. Getting lectured by Vindo sahb, on the subject of tolerance. That'd be like George Bush professing on becoming peacniks.
Let me remind you:
Thanks for finding articles from such obscure people. Acknowledged authoroty on islam? acknowledged by whom?
Why don't you also mention, he is the leader of a minor religious sect, the Progressive Dawoodi Bohra movement.
If you are peddling such voices on this forum, you should be honest enough to give the contextual background of the writer.
So, the views of a person are to be contextualized by his sect as per you!
You need to remember your words about the other sects. I don't need to dig them for you. You can do that yourself. I have not seen anyone here peddling the sectarian differences so openly as you.
It is indeed ironic to get lectures on secularism and tolerance from Mr. DarkStar. The same person who wishes the destruction and breakdown of another country.
