A brighter future when China and India work hand in hand

[Dr. NooB NinjA]

If you think the Forum Represents the entire population then you should think again. As for the Border incidents they can be solved. if you think Chinese hate Indians then your Mistaken, the Chinese members here got a sort of Anti Indian feel due to the Trolling and flame wars, Honestly we have no problem with Indians. if you visit china the feeling to Indians is neutral.

And the feeling is mutual..!! ..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

but we hate you fugly chinks and plz open your 2mm eyes

Don't you have anything better to do, "Balwinder Singh"?

For a change, why don't you try to argue for India vs. China in a more respectable manner?

 

[Sasquatch]

Don't you have anything better to do, "Balwinder Singh"?

Ignore him quit feeding the troll bro.

 

[hembo]

I don't see that as being realistic.

China's rise alone will be enough to stretch global resources to the breaking point by 2030. And that is only 1.3+ billion people, out of the many more billions that live in the developing world.

For small developing countries, it won't be too difficult to achieve developed status. But for giants like China and India, even double-digit growth for three decades in a row hasn't brought China even close to being a developed country.

I agree that the path forward will not be as easy as lot of people thinks. Specially in view of the massive population in both the countries.

However, I have high hopes in the energy front that, with improvement in research & technology, cost effective & safer Thorium & Uranium based energy is going to be a reality sooner then we had imagined.

Do you have any idea how much Thorium reserve India has? India have many incentive to try solve all disputes with China at the earliest. But one incentive for China to resolve all issues with India could be future sale of Thorium as a source of cheaper energy.

 

[Sasquatch]

For Both India and China I can see us solving our disputes however India should solve it's dispute with Pakistan then the entire South Asia can grow Faster. we will also need to look into alternatives energy and other things.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I agree that the path forward will not be as easy as lot of people thinks. Specially in view of the massive population in both the countries.

However, I have high hopes in the energy front that, with improvement in research & technology, cost effective & safer Thorium & Uranium based energy is going to be a reality sooner then we had imagined.

Do you have any idea how much Thorium reserve India has? India have many incentive to try solve all disputes with China at the earliest. But one incentive for China to resolve all issues with India could be future sale of Thorium as a source of cheaper energy.

There are so many technologies out there that people get excited about. But is it workable and is it cost efficient?

If it is not cost efficient/effective, then what is the point? Give me a call when it is.

China's idea right now, is to build MEGA-dams and huge wind farms. I personally think dams are one of the best methods out there.

But what other country can construct dams at the rate that China is doing? Our political system allows this, but other countries will not. You have to relocate local populations, and bypass the environmental protests, if you want to go for mass-hydropower like China is doing.

And even despite China being the undisputed number one producer of hydroelectric power, China still derives the vast majority of our energy needs from fossil fuels.

 

[hembo]

There are so many technologies out there that people get excited about. But is it workable and is it cost efficient?

If it is not cost efficient/effective, then what is the point? Give me a call when it is.

Safe nuclear does exist, and China is leading the way with thorium - Telegraph

]Thorium catches world's eye post Japanese nuke disaster - CNBC-TV18 -

India plans 'safer' nuclear plant powered by thorium | Environment | guardian.co.uk

The Hindu Business Line : Russia keen to partner India in tapping thorium cycle[/

China's idea right now, is to build MEGA-dams and huge wind farms. I personally think dams are one of the best methods out there.

But what other country can construct dams at the rate that China is doing? Our political system allows this, but other countries will not. You have to relocate local populations, and bypass the environmental protests, if you want to go for mass-hydropower like China is doing.

And even despite China being the undisputed number one producer of hydroelectric power, China still derives the vast majority of our energy needs from fossil fuels.

Agreed. In India's Assam, there has been a ongoing feud between local residents & Govt for construction of a 2000 MW River dam since last one year. We cannot move as quickly as China when it comes to something like this. Heck, even construction of new highways has been facing similar problems.

 

[below_freezing]

Mankind had always been able to figure out alternatives. May be those Nuclear (Thorium, Uranium etc) & Solar based electricity coupled with hydrogen fueled & fuels cell vehicles will be the answer for fossil fuels in the coming decased..

If you meant India by "some countries", I believe, you cannot be any more wrong. I'll not dwell onto why, because it'll derail the current thread of importance of mutual co-operation.

However, I firmly believe that if we (India specifically) have to migrate to the next level of development (we had been somewhat stagnant at 7-9% since last few years), we will have to shed hostility with our neighbors (specifically China). As Mr. Dai Bingguo had rightly pointed out, we have seen in the recent past that, whenever India & China talks in unision, the world listens. That's a good sign & we should look to further our combined influence on the world. Be it environment, economics or geo-politics.

The solution is to reduce the living standards of those who are too high.

Everyone can and should live at about the level of Argentina to Malta (8000-18000 GDP/capita). Anything above is theft from the planet.

This reduction in living standards for the minority who are too rich collectively will occur naturally, as the marginal utility of oil is higher in developing countries. As oil prices rise, everyone gets hurt, but developing countries get hurt relatively less. I read somewhere that China and India can withstand oil up to 140 dollars/barrel without going into recession, but US/Europe go into recession above 110 dollars/barrel.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Dams are probably the most cost-effective type of renewable energy source.

However, mega-dams still take DECADES to recoup the original cost of the project.

Fossil fuels still have the advantage in that they are relatively cheap and accessible. And you don't have to spend years and years building up the dam just to get energy out of it.

 

[Infinity]

Now find me an Indian who believes it.

I am there...............I believe this............Have you ever seen me spitting venom in threads related to China.........There are crores of people like me in India who are ready to forget 1962 and move forward for a strong India China relation.......... Lets do Business and progress together.........In this world we both have space to grow........

 

[rama]

do china have any human rights organisation working to protect natural flora and fauna and ever opposed a construction of dam or a nuclear power plant???

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

do china have any human rights organisation working to protect natural flora and fauna and ever opposed a construction of dam or a nuclear power plant???

There are of course many protests against the Dams.

But I feel that it is necessary to build them, for the long-term good of the country.

 

[below_freezing]

do china have any human rights organisation working to protect natural flora and fauna and ever opposed a construction of dam or a nuclear power plant???

yes, and depending on how many people they get to protest, the plans may or may not be changed. those aren't human rights organizations. flora and fauna aren't humans.

 

[rama]

yes, and depending on how many people they get to protest, the plans may or may not be changed. those aren't human rights organizations. flora and fauna aren't humans.

obviously not humans but our life sumhow depends upon it..
so i hope u get the point..wen chinese gov decide to build a hydro power project they don't give it a second thought for the environmental as well as humanitarian loss(relocation kind of stuff).
but in India reverse is true be it a dam or any nuclear power plant, people oppose such projects which involves relocation, and unfortunately the project has to be abandoned.

 

[below_freezing]

obviously not humans but our life sumhow depends upon it..
so i hope u get the point..wen chinese gov decide to build a hydro power project they don't give it a second thought for the environmental as well as humanitarian loss(relocation kind of stuff).
but in India reverse is true be it a dam or any nuclear power plant, people oppose such projects which involves relocation, and unfortunately the project has to be abandoned.

the environmental studies take a decade to do in many cases. The Three Gorges dam was proposed in the 70's and got started in the 90's. Debate went on throughout the 80's. Once the environmental studies and debates are complete, the case is closed, as it is assumed everyone that has a legitimate viewpoint has already gotten the chance to present them.