27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Oruc]

Yes he is right, this is exactly what happened, unfortunately.

The Mig21 bison (pilot missing) shot the f16. Then it got so lonely, it shot itself and landed in Asad Kashmir so Pakistani could take Selfies with it.

The Mirage 2000 (pilot missing), seeing the big sacrifice by its grandfather Mig-21 also shot itself, and landed in a place where the pieces could be wrapped up overnight.

The Su-30 (pilot Abhi nandan released, weapons officer missing) , seeing what his fellow "laraku viman" had achieved, just put its head down in such embarrassment, did not realize that he was forward throttle at 270 knots, hit the ground in a kamikaze fashion, or was it a technical glitch? No way, No Su30 were flying that day. They dont fly during the day time because its too hot for them.

The helicopter, well, that is whole another story.

Thats all folks.

Epic.

while all this was going on Tejas sat in his hole singing "ay khuda mery abbu salamat rahen"

 

[Mrc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110053548111351810

It seems they did receive some whopping from PAF. Could it be they lost more than one MKI give they admit 4 Aim120c were fired and also given PAF pilot saying we are only hearing about 30% damage.

This is taccid admission that su 30 and mirage was handed their arse in a tattered lungi on 27th and this can b repeated at will....

So all hopes now on rafael

 

[F86 Saber]

I have a question, why did SU-30 and Mirage 2000 fail against PAF? Apparently it was just because of the planning and execution of PAF that IAF was taken by surprise and could not respond.............. or is it????

If it was just because of tactics then what upgrade will Rafael give the IAF on their existing fleet? None i believe.
The only explanation of their demoralized demeanor and their desperate cry for Rafael can be that their prized Israeli and Russian EW pods and targeting tech failed against our missiles and our EW equipment.

 

[untitled]

So all hopes now on rafael

If it was just because of tactics then what upgrade will Rafael

Rafael already did provide the Spice weapons to India among others
I think what you guys meant was the Rafale fighter.
Yes many people make this mistake

 

[F86 Saber]

Rafael already did provide the Spice weapons among others to India
I think what you guys meant was the Rafale fighter.
Yes many people make this mistake

No i meant the Rafale fighter jet

 

[Riz]

Who was flying the MiG-21 then?

Shahzaz Hussain...

 

[Maarkhoor]

Who was flying the MiG-21 then?

The one who died in CMH.

 

[Bratva]

The one who died in CMH.

Naa Inni Lambi chaddo hun. Lets stick to the facts. Abhinandan was flying MIG-21

 

[Maarkhoor]

Naa Inni Lambi chaddo hun. Lets stick to the facts. Abhinandan was flying MIG-21

I am stating the truth man

 

[Bratva]

I am stating the truth man

Just like indians stating truth and facts at bharat rakshak ? They claiming with absolute certainty, they killed 12 of our soldiers last week and A jf-17 was shot down by our own SAM which crash landed at Multan airport yesterday hence the emergency closure of multan airport.

Point being. Let's stick to what is verifiable fact.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Just like indians stating truth and facts at bharat rakshak ? They claiming with absolute certainty, they killed 12 of our soldiers last week and A jf-17 was shot down by our own SAM which crash landed at Multan airport yesterday hence the emergency closure of multan airport.

Point being. Let's stick to what is verifiable fact.

 

[Arsalan 345]

i read tom cooper comment from f-16.net on this 27 feb situation.actually he isn't a fan of paf pilots but he made an interesting point about awacs.....

"There was no 'dogfight' on 27 February.
The PAF was 'orbiting' on one side of the LOC, the IAF on the other. Then the PAF found an opportune moment: Su-30MKIs were heading in opposite direction (one can't orbit in direction of the opponent all the time), and it appeared to the Pakistanis that nobody is airborne over Srinagar. So, they sent 4 F-16s 'in'.

As these 4 F-16s moved in, the Su-30MKIs turned to intercept, in turn prompting the other 4 F-16s to engage them. That's how it happened few AIM-120C-5s 'migrated to India'. But, since AMRAAMs were fired from 30km+ away, all missed.

Furthermore, the problem is there's a mountain chain with 4,000m (that's about 13,000ft) high peaks in between the LOC and Srinagar. Thus, the PAF AWACS missed the IAF scrambling several MiG-21s from Awantipora FOB and Srinagar AB in response to ingressing F-16s. Yes, ladies and gentlemen: contrary to video games, in reality radars can't see through mountains. First surprise here, I guess.

So, when the MiGs climbed over that mountain chain... 'surprise, surprise': they found themselves at 15,000ft+ - high above F-16s that were ingressing at about 7,000ft. The lead MiG dove, ignoring the fact he's crossing the LOC while doing so, one of F-16s came up towards the MiG. What happened next is unclear.

...that is: until the moments captured on several cell-phones, showing that MiG going down in flames".

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

i read tom cooper comment from f-16.net on this 27 feb situation.actually he isn't a fan of paf pilots but he made an interesting point about awacs.....

"There was no 'dogfight' on 27 February.
The PAF was 'orbiting' on one side of the LOC, the IAF on the other. Then the PAF found an opportune moment: Su-30MKIs were heading in opposite direction (one can't orbit in direction of the opponent all the time), and it appeared to the Pakistanis that nobody is airborne over Srinagar. So, they sent 4 F-16s 'in'.

As these 4 F-16s moved in, the Su-30MKIs turned to intercept, in turn prompting the other 4 F-16s to engage them. That's how it happened few AIM-120C-5s 'migrated to India'. But, since AMRAAMs were fired from 30km+ away, all missed.

Furthermore, the problem is there's a mountain chain with 4,000m (that's about 13,000ft) high peaks in between the LOC and Srinagar. Thus, the PAF AWACS missed the IAF scrambling several MiG-21s from Awantipora FOB and Srinagar AB in response to ingressing F-16s. Yes, ladies and gentlemen: contrary to video games, in reality radars can't see through mountains. First surprise here, I guess.

So, when the MiGs climbed over that mountain chain... 'surprise, surprise': they found themselves at 15,000ft+ - high above F-16s that were ingressing at about 7,000ft. The lead MiG dove, ignoring the fact he's crossing the LOC while doing so, one of F-16s came up towards the MiG. What happened next is unclear.

...that is: until the moments captured on several cell-phones, showing that MiG going down in flames".

1st no F-16 were used.
Secondly if PAF saw an opportunity and attacked then they wouldn't have sent in so many jets. 24 as Indian claim.
Third. AMRAAM is bvr. Why would it miss after 30km?

Its just another story from another person onntge globe.

 

[Slides]

1st no F-16 were used.
Secondly if PAF saw an opportunity and attacked then they wouldn't have sent in so many jets. 24 as Indian claim.
Third. AMRAAM is bvr. Why would it miss after 30km?

Its just another story from another person onntge globe.

No F-16 was used in the cross border strike but they were used as backup for A2A combat on our side of LoC.

 

[Mugwop]

This was dray / Rain Man reaction when abhinandan was captured