27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Oruc]

Nose looks clearly curved downwards.

 

[Mrc]

view this link and pause at 9

Repost video please not working

Its this aircraft which has such a nose curve in relation to body

Body and wings are in fire probably partly broken .. U cannot say any thing apart from nose making an angled curve with body

 

[Comet]

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is this a still or is it taken from some video. if it's from video, can you post a link to that video?

 

[surge]

What is the source of this image?

There is a screenshot from a viral video.

It is definitely SU-30.

The delta wing design illusion in the picture is caused because of fire smoke and stalled airflow.
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Cant see video, please reupload

 

[Windjammer]

The nose looks too narrow for a Mirage-2000, the SU-30 stabilisers seems to be missing.
If anything, the image resembles the Israeli Kfir Fighter jet .

 

[CriticalThought]

Or just debris. Not sure how in such a pixelated section of the image you made out trailing edge angles.. biased speculation galore

Aaloo ka paratha logic galore in this thread

 

[Slides]

Here is a digitally enhanced version ... apparently its a mirrage ... cant be mig for sure however if we consider the size of the plane and assume that due to missile hit and fire vertical and horizental stabilizer were damaged than its su 30 ... considering the inclination in nose its more likely a su30 with damaged stabilizers ... in any case its not f16 coz f16 do not have curved nose

It's piece of the Mig-21 wing. At least that's what I see.

 

[Oruc]

The nose looks too narrow for a Mirage-2000, the SU-30 stabilisers seems to be missing.
If anything, the image resembles the Israeli Kfir Fighter jet .

I think stablizer on the right is visible while left one is in flames or shred away. If we take it for mirage then nose is very long as compared to the body and wings apart from crookedness.

 

[Windjammer]

Guys you have overlooked another possibility. What you seeing is not the nose but wing with aircraft's nose on fire and it's like pulling up.

 

[usman012]

Guys you have overlooked another possibility. What you seeing is not the nose but wing with aircraft's nose on fire and it's like pulling up.


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It clearly a Su-30Mki .Not a mirage 2000 or any other aircraft .Mirage 2000 does not have such large cone in the front .

 

[aliyusuf]

Guys you have overlooked another possibility. What you seeing is not the nose but wing with aircraft's nose on fire and it's like pulling up.


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To me the only thing that might point it towards making it an Su-30, is the proportion of the frame silhouette i.e. the length of the nose section and the apparent wing-span … although not too clear but the closest match is the Su-30 in my humble opinion.

 

[graphican]

Guys you have overlooked another possibility. What you seeing is not the nose but wing with aircraft's nose on fire and it's like pulling up.


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Vertical direction of flames indicate aircraft if falling down almsot horizontally. Su-30 can stabilise itself horizontally.

 

[araz]

Agreed but F16s were present at that day , they were not involved in bombing or escort mission but was on backup plan deep inside our air space to support if things get hot which eventually went ... Remember it was PAF planned mission and PAF was dictating the rules of engagement ...

When DG ISPR stated that F16s not involved in today's assault he was right as F16s were not part of strike package but they can be on air defence operations ...

Agreed in totality.
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[Windjammer]

I think this is the video of the aircraft in the image.

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[CriticalThought]

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Right, time to use logic people. The image is too blurry to reveal the shape of the object. So let us think what happens when a fighter jet is hit by a missile. We have pictorial examples of MIG-21.

Next, let's look at the type of fire raging on the object. This is a constantly fed flame, where fuel is constantly burning because heat and oxygen are available. If this had been a direct missile strike, then given the size of the flame, this craft would have exploded into bits. This shows that either a proximity fuse caused limited damage, or an engine failure, or the remotest possibility that this was a gun kill, but please don't quite me on the last one. Most probably, this was a heat seeker that exploded in the proximity of the engine, causing limited puncturing, leading to fuel leaking out from high pressure consistently, thus creating the flame.

The picture easily fits a Mg-21 hit from the side, aft of the wings, with the front section detaching from the rest. The angle is consistent with a craft whose pieces we expect to fall in a forward motion, leaving behind a track, just like the Mig-21.

Of course I could be very wrong in all of this so I encourage refutations based on solid logic and evidences.