19 PAF Aircraft to participate in exercise with PLAAF

[CriticalThought]

Just check the record of how many of these birds are crashed due to structural faults appearing in the air frame along with the precious pilots. More than 10 of these Mirages are being crashed in last few years. Should be replaced immediately.

Compare here:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92679&page=1

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Bro that also happened to PAF F7s recently.

Compare here:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92679&page=1

 

[CriticalThought]

Bro that also happened to PAF F7s recently.

And so the takeaway is that you don't replace your entire fleet if these types of events happen.

 

[khanasifm]

There are many secrets which civilians dont know...thats a known fact.

Turkish AF KC135 at Minahs AB,Kamra
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There is no need for civilian to know they have other things to worry about some one has to actually earn and not just spend

Civilian economy generate revenue which then supports military. A country with vibrant economy is more powerful then just having a large army the fall of ussr proved it

Anyway thanks for sharing

Anyway its re engined kc135 r with new engines not original 707 engines

 

[Talon]

There is no need for civilian to know they have other things to worry about some one has to actually earn and not just spend

Civilian economy generate revenue which then supports military. A country with vibrant economy is more powerful then just having a large army the fall of ussr proved it

Anyway thanks for sharing

Anyway its re engined kc135 r with new engines not original 707 engines

Thats what I always say and have been saying "its not civilians job to interfere with military issues" but a few weeks ago when F7 crashed at sgd a few folks here argued with me that civilians have the right to know whats going on blah blah..

Yes thats why i didnt mention 707.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Civies have the right to know.
Here in USA all defence proceedings are made public.

Other than Secret Ops offcourse.

Thats what I always say and have been saying "its not civilians job to interfere with military issues" but a few weeks ago when F7 crashed at sgd a few folks here argued with me that civilians have the right to know whats going on blah blah..

Yes thats why i didnt mention 707.

 

[khanasifm]

Civies have the right to know.
Here in USA all defence proceedings are made public.

Other than Secret Ops offcourse.

Yes I agree in this respect but pak is not USA so ...

 

[Code_Geass]

Yes I agree in this respect but pak is not USA so ...

in Pakistan most of such information will be used against forces or hype the nationalism to earn money, our media does not know how to feed/deliver such info to public without making a big deal out of it.

 

[aliaselin]

9月20日12时许，中国空军驻疆某机场升起一颗绿色信号弹，中国空军两架“飞豹”战机挂载实弹腾空而起，巴基斯坦空军两架“枭龙”战机紧随其后直刺苍穹。双方围绕攻防“地面重要目标”，在方圆数百公里的广袤区域展开激烈对抗……中巴空军“雄鹰-Ⅵ”多兵（机）种联合训练进攻性空对地作战课目就此展开。

　　从联合训练中方指挥中心可以看到，中方“飞豹”战机在预警机的空中指挥和歼-11Ｂ战机的伴飞掩护下直扑目标，担负防守任务的巴方“枭龙”战机拉开架势做好迎战准备，配属的地面防空导弹部队、雷达机动部队、电子对抗部队则紧急反应、快速展开，双方斗智斗勇、打得难解难分。

　　据中方指挥部人员介绍，这次进攻性空对地作战训练带有战术背景，导演部仅提供攻防目标，攻防双方“背靠背”，在真打实抗中检验各自的战术战法。

　　从指挥中心的大屏幕看到航空炸弹精准命中目标，中巴双方指挥人员共同鼓起掌来。中方参训分队指挥员王燕崎少将表示，双方参训人员在联合训练中无障碍交流、无保留沟通，在一次次协同、一次次对抗中，相互学习借鉴，双方在实战化训练方面都有不小的收获。巴方参训分队指挥员伊姆兰准将表示，从2011年中巴空军开展联合训练以来，中巴两国空军实战能力越来越突出，成为维护地区安全稳定的重要力量。

　　中巴空军联合训练于9月7日开始，双方出动近40架多型战机，中国空军出动歼-11、飞豹、空警-200等战机，巴基斯坦空军出动“枭龙”、“幻影”等战机，进行进攻性空对空作战、近距空中支援作战、进攻性空对地作战、“红蓝”体系对抗演练等课题。

http://mil.firefox.sina.com/17/0921/08/L3FZSBTQXMCH9542.html
In Sep 20th exercise, J11B and JH-7A attack while JF-17 and SAM defend, attacker side win.

 

[CriticalThought]

http://mil.firefox.sina.com/17/0921/08/L3FZSBTQXMCH9542.html
In Sep 20th exercise, J11B and JH-7A attack while JF-17 and SAM defend, attacker side win.

Hahaha my Chinese friend says it's a draw

难解难分

It also says that JF-17 and another plane he can't translate are difficult for the radar to detect.

The scenario was that J-11 were attacking in air-to-ground mode and JF-17 was defending.

Correction: It is saying the combination of JF-17 and Huanying (can't translate properly, it is some AWACS) makes it difficult to detect JF-17 Yayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

 

[khanasifm]

Pakistan military exercises fighter 11B cover Flying Leopard to attack the Pakistani iron out of the Fierce Dragon intercept

September 21, 2017, Xinhua News Agency
Xinhua News Agency, Urumqi, September 20 (Huang Shubo, Li Kaiqiang) September 20 12 am, the Chinese Air Force in Xinjiang, an airport raised a green signal bombs, the Chinese Air Force two "Flying Leopard" fighters mounted live bullets, Pakistan Air Force two "Fierce Dragon" fighter followed by piercing the sky. The two sides around the offensive and defensive "ground important goal", in a radius of hundreds of kilometers of the vast area of fierce confrontation ... ... CMB Air Force "Eagle-VI" more soldiers (joint) training offensive offensive air to ground to start this project.

Reporters in the joint training of the Chinese command center to see the Chinese "Flying Leopard" fighters in the early warning aircraft in the air command and J-11B fighters with the cover under the cover of the target, the defensive task of the Palestinian "Fierce Dragon" Good against the preparation, the subordinate surface air defense missile forces, radar mobile forces, electronic warfare forces are emergency response, fast start, both sides wits, hard to understand difficult to play.

According to the Chinese headquarters staff, the offensive air-to-ground combat training with tactical background, the director only to provide offensive and defensive goals, offensive and defensive sides "back to back", in real combat real test their tactical tactics.

From the command center of the big screen to see the air bomb precision hit the target, the two sides command the common commander together. Chinese side training unit commander Major General Wang Yansha told reporters that the two sides in the joint training in the joint training without barriers to communication, no reservations communication, in a second collaboration, time and time again, learn from each other, both sides in the actual training have No small harvest. Pakistani brigade commander Yiman Brigadier General said that since the joint training of the Pakistan Air Force in 2011, the air force between China and Pakistan has become more and more prominent, as an important force to maintain regional security and stability.

China and the Air Force dispatched J-11, air police and other fighters, the Pakistan Air Force dispatched "Fierce Dragon" "Mirage" and other fighters, to attack Air-to-air combat, close air support operations, offensive air-to-ground combat, "red and blue" system against the exercise and other topics.

 

[CriticalThought]

Pakistan military exercises fighter 11B cover Flying Leopard to attack the Pakistani iron out of the Fierce Dragon intercept

September 21, 2017, Xinhua News Agency
Xinhua News Agency, Urumqi, September 20 (Huang Shubo, Li Kaiqiang) September 20 12 am, the Chinese Air Force in Xinjiang, an airport raised a green signal bombs, the Chinese Air Force two "Flying Leopard" fighters mounted live bullets, Pakistan Air Force two "Fierce Dragon" fighter followed by piercing the sky. The two sides around the offensive and defensive "ground important goal", in a radius of hundreds of kilometers of the vast area of fierce confrontation ... ... CMB Air Force "Eagle-VI" more soldiers (joint) training offensive offensive air to ground to start this project.

Reporters in the joint training of the Chinese command center to see the Chinese "Flying Leopard" fighters in the early warning aircraft in the air command and J-11B fighters with the cover under the cover of the target, the defensive task of the Palestinian "Fierce Dragon" Good against the preparation, the subordinate surface air defense missile forces, radar mobile forces, electronic warfare forces are emergency response, fast start, both sides wits, hard to understand difficult to play.

According to the Chinese headquarters staff, the offensive air-to-ground combat training with tactical background, the director only to provide offensive and defensive goals, offensive and defensive sides "back to back", in real combat real test their tactical tactics.

From the command center of the big screen to see the air bomb precision hit the target, the two sides command the common commander together. Chinese side training unit commander Major General Wang Yansha told reporters that the two sides in the joint training in the joint training without barriers to communication, no reservations communication, in a second collaboration, time and time again, learn from each other, both sides in the actual training have No small harvest. Pakistani brigade commander Yiman Brigadier General said that since the joint training of the Pakistan Air Force in 2011, the air force between China and Pakistan has become more and more prominent, as an important force to maintain regional security and stability.

China and the Air Force dispatched J-11, air police and other fighters, the Pakistan Air Force dispatched "Fierce Dragon" "Mirage" and other fighters, to attack Air-to-air combat, close air support operations, offensive air-to-ground combat, "red and blue" system against the exercise and other topics.

Forget it, google translate won't make any sense.

 

[Zarvan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/910743245612650496

 

[Falcon26]

https://twitter.com/x/status/910743245612650496

Imagine PAF leasing 4-10 of these birds at CCS for DACT. Will proof valuable for JF-17 pilots in developing tactics against the SU-30s of IAF

 

[aliaselin]

Hahaha my Chinese friend says it's a draw



It also says that JF-17 and another plane he can't translate are difficult for the radar to detect.

The scenario was that J-11 were attacking in air-to-ground mode and JF-17 was defending.

Correction: It is saying the combination of JF-17 and Huanying (can't translate properly, it is some AWACS) makes it difficult to detect JF-17 Yayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

难分难解means the fighting is quite fierce，but at the end, it reports that the fighter accurately bombed the targets on the ground, it means the attacker has won.