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19 PAF Aircraft to participate in exercise with PLAAF

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Bro, in PAF an average squadron has between 12 to 16 aircraft on strength so that's a squadron and half participating, however last time three different types of aircraft participated in the exercise, i assume same would be this time as well.
Since j-7p are on the way out ,i hope PAF will be pitching mirages against Sukhoi and it's Chinese derivatives in the joint exercises.
 
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Since j-7p are on the way out ,i hope PAF will be pitching mirages against Sukhoi and it's Chinese derivatives in the joint exercises.
F7PG was a wonderful plane is close combat. JF17 will prove even better
 
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Since j-7p are on the way out ,i hope PAF will be pitching mirages against Sukhoi and it's Chinese derivatives in the joint exercises.
Last time PAF sent three different types, JF-17s, Mirages and F-7Ps.....and it's no secret that the JF-17s spoilt the day for the big twin engine Jets.

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Last time PAF sent three different types, JF-17s, Mirages and F-7Ps.....and it's no secret that the JF-17s spoilt the day for the big twin engine Jets.

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If you could use your connections to get us a video of a SU-30 vs Thunder dogfight or a picture of Thunder getting a lock on SU-30 I would be infinitely grateful.
 
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If you could use your connections to get us a video of a SU-30 vs Thunder dogfight or a picture of Thunder getting a lock on SU-30 I would be infinitely grateful.

These exercises are normally conducted under controlled environment and chinese sukhois are very different from indian one's. I will bet on pakistani f-16 blk 52 against any chinese aircraft.
 
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Not allowed, without US permission simply.
US isnt going to sell us F-16s anyway nor any other offensive defense equipment, why should we bother what US will allow and what not. Time to end this disenchanted relationship.
 
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BEIJING, Aug 1 (APP): Pakistan will dispatch 19 fighter aircraft to
China to participate in the 6th edition of a joint air force exercise between the two brotherly countries to be held by the end of this year, a senior military official said here on Tuesday.
“There will be the 6th edition of joint air force exercise and Pakistan
will send its 19 aircraft to take part in this bilateral exercise. This will be the highest number of aircrafts sending by Pakistan to any country for bilateral exercises,” Pakistan Defense Attaché to China, Brigadier Ahmed Bilal stated while speaking at a program of China Global Television Network (CGTN) telecast in connection of 90th anniversary of People’s Liberation Army (PLA).
He informed that at the end of year, the two countries will again hold
joint navy exercise, joint army training for counter terrorism and a joint exercise.
“Hundreds of soldiers will be take part in these exercises and interact
with each others. The joint training of the both the armies will continue nearly 10 weeks,” he added.
While commenting on China-India border standoff and present situation on the Line of Control (LOC), he said, both Pakistan and China will stand together to maintain regional stability threatened by India’s dangerous and negative trends.
He opined the outlook of border disputes between China and India and
Pakistan and India are different but conflict dynamics are same.
India actually feels emboldened and it believes to have some support of
world powers and consequently they can put the regional stability at the stake. That is why they are more aggressive in recent past and it is a dangerous and negative trend, he added.
He said both China and Pakistan have disputes on borders with India but the recent border standoff between China and India at Donglang has changed the security situation in the region.
In case of Pakistan, as the freedom struggle gains fillip in Indian held
Kashmir, India has again reactivated the LOC to divert attention of the international community from the ongoing freedom struggle, he added.
There is really a difference between the natures of border disputes
between China and India and Pakistan and India but there are similarities also. The outlook is different but the conflict dynamics are same, he added.
While elaborating the dangerous and negative trends coming from Indian side, he said firstly, India always acts aggressively out of its domestic compulsions.
Secondly, they (Indians) have given the task of fighting war to media
and the thirdly, they like to exploit multilateral forums to further or to promote their narrative in their bilateral disputes, he added.
Brigadier Bilal said all these trends are negative trends and they are
going to affect the regional stability, adding, “But I am sure, in the case of current standoff, with Chinese prudence and patience, this is going to induce some sense on India side”.
The mistake they have committed by violating the Convention of 1890 and crossing the border, they have actually endangered the safety of their own troops, he added.
He expressed the confidence that Indian troops will have to go back to
their original position, adding, “There is no way out, the regional stability has to be maintained and Pakistan and china will stand together on this issue.”
While commenting further on Pak-China defense cooperation, he said the relationship between the two countries is quite unique. It is not usual relationship between two states but it is actually a relationship between two people based on mutual trust, respect and love for each others.
The Defense Attaché said only in last month, both the countries had 12th round of the defense and security talks during which they took a review of all kinds of defense and security cooperation between the two militaries.
Besides this cooperation, the two countries have lot of mechanisms which regulate the defense cooperation including joint staff talks, service level staff talks and joint working groups on several issues which also include intelligence cooperation and security of the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), he added.
He said the CPEC and broad based defense cooperation are manifestation of unique relations between two countries.
Under the defense cooperation and exchange of personnel, the soldiers of the two armies interact with each others, he added.
Brigadier Bilal said joint training and joint exercises is the best
forum as both the countries have yearly joint exercises and training of army, navy and air force.
Regarding defense production, he said the Al-Khalid tank and JF-17
thunder multirole aircraft speak of the level of joint production and joint ventures between the defense production industries of both the countries.
He said several officers have exchange visits between China and Pakistan on yearly basis and they attend various courses, adding, “We organize young officers seminar here for sharing of experiences especially the Pakistan side has counter terrorism hand on experience to share it with Chinese brothers while small and large scale activities continue throughout the year.”
He termed it as wonderful cooperation between the two friendly countries which sets an example for the world.
Terming the friendship as very prospective, he said, the leadership of
both the countries has very good understanding of each others, adding, “We have very good understanding of common threats and common opportunities which we can capitalize on and we will continue to expand and deepen the existing cooperation.”
Brigadier Bilal said both the countries certainly will make good use of
new forum available under the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) that will also be a very good opportunity to interact with each other.
He also mentioned the quadrilateral mechanism of cooperation which
initiated by China and Pakistan, Afghanistan and Tajikistan are the other three members.
“This takes care of the emerging challenge and threats. This is going to
be an excellent cooperation and it is going to be very effective,” he added.
Refreshing News ..
 
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Indeed. America is loosing its charm and popularity day by day. It is signified by idiots like Trump.
US isnt going to sell us F-16s anyway nor any other offensive defense equipment, why should we bother what US will allow and what not. Time to end this disenchanted relationship.
 
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These exercises are normally conducted under controlled environment and chinese sukhois are very different from indian one's. I will bet on pakistani f-16 blk 52 against any chinese aircraft.
You need to look closer to home during recent hostilities on LOC to understand the outcome for the SU-30MKI. !! :)
 
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You need to look closer to home during recent hostilities on LOC to understand the outcome for the SU-30MKI. !! :)
Our planes haven't engaged the Indian planes along the LOC recently, have they?

EDIT: ...or just rudely ignore me as if to let me know you're just making stuff up.
 
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PAF made the right choice to send only JF-17s because may be F-7s are alright for us but internationally their era has long gone, under predefined rules in mock-up combats F-7 could kill a modern fighter but in real combat it has no chance to stand against SUs or F-16s therefore lets be realistic
 
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PAF made the right choice to send only JF-17s because may be F-7s are alright for us but internationally their era has long gone, under predefined rules in mock-up combats F-7 could kill a modern fighter but in real combat it has no chance to stand against SUs or F-16s therefore lets be realistic
lol where did you get this stuff from. modern cost of a fighter is 70 percent avionics and 30 percent airframe. F7 in close combat within visual range is a match for anyone because we train extensively in drawing the enemy into a close air combat within visual range. now F7 with guns and missile as good as any will match anyone. its not about a shiny toy
 
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These exercises are normally conducted under controlled environment and chinese sukhois are very different from indian one's. I will bet on pakistani f-16 blk 52 against any chinese aircraft.

what are the main differences between Chinese and Indian sikohois.
 
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