16th December 1971: From East Pakistan to Bangladesh

[Syed Naved]

There are clear convention in UN, categorized a legitimate freedom movement and separtist movement under armed struggle. If for any reason, the state fails to honor the democratic right of some part of the territory, that part have a legitimate right for asking for a separate homeland. In 1971, it was a freedom movement as East Pakistan never enjoyed the same parity and same status as the West Pakistan. It was not only democracy and martial law, but segregation in all aspect of state affairs.

And the war was not started by the East Pakistanis, despite there were riots and street protests. War started by West Pakistanis, why not you go and ask them why the hell they started it? They attacked us, we defended ourselves and finally defeated them and have our own country. Whats wrong with that?

Think about BD army. Will it possible for anybody to order them to attack and start killing the civilians in this country? They will just decline the order. Same things happaend in 1971. The Bengali army did not follow the order and did not go and kill civilians as it was their own countryment. But non Bengali army did follow it as it was their enemy terrritory.

Regarding, Chakmas, they had some genuine grievences. Their armed struggle did put us off guard, but BD army despite some excesses, did not go after civilians and randomly killing them. They always tried to make connection with them and finally came to a settlement with them. You cant compare Chakma struggle and 1971 with the same magnitude.

un convention? are you talking about that un which is a buffer organization of america and israel ? or it is some other kind of un?

 

[patna_ke_presley]

it's the barking of some dogs.some may barks like these editic fool,but all the bangladeshi don't.
maine kab kaha bangal ko purvi pakistan hona chahiye.jo maine bola hi naheen aap uspar hi amaal kar dia. marvelous.
aur ek baat,pakistan is pakistan.no matter how hard you some kind of fools try to break it,allah will protect pakistan.
aur bangladesh mein mere liye kuch bacha ya nahi uski chinta ap na kare to bhtar.kyonki jise aap bakwas bol rahe hain ,vohi sach hain.aur ek baat pakistan k khilaf aap log sirf bakwas hi kar sakte ho,uski alava aur kuch nahi.toh kripya pakistan aur muslim k khilaf bakas karne ki bajaye aap thoda history se knowladge gain kare

Bhai maine to Muslims ka naam hi nahi liya aur aap zabardasti usse topic mein laane ko bekaraar ho. Kuch Bangaldeshi nahi, mujhe to bas kuch pseduo-Bangladeshi dikh rahe hain jo apne hi logon ko billi kehte hain.

Waise aapki Hindi aur English dono kafi khatarnak hai...

 

[StandForInsaf]

Bhai maine to Muslims ka naam hi nahi liya aur aap zabardasti usse topic mein laane ko bekaraar ho. Kuch Bangaldeshi nahi, mujhe to bas kuch pseduo-Bangladeshi dikh rahe hain to apne ho logon ko billi kehte hain.

Waise aapki Hindi aur English dono kafi khatarnak hai...

please stay on topic no personal attacks.

thanks

 

[InFn-0]

I would request a ban on this Syed Naved guy as this guy is here only to flame people.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

please stay on topic no personal attacks.

thanks

This Syed Naved is using very offensive words in Bengali, hope you could have understood little Bengali. He is being tolerated otherwise he deserved to be banned from this forum.

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I would request a ban on this Syed Naved guy as this guy is here only to flame people.

I understand little Bengali, this guy is spitting too much.

 

[Syed Naved]

This Syed Naved is using very offensive words in Bengali, hope you could have understood little Bengali. He is being tolerated otherwise he deserved to be banned from this forum.

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I understand little Bengali, this guy is spitting too much.

O.M.G what a invention ,scared ... but my dear friend can i have a list of them ( those offensive words that i even not use ) ,what a lie !!
this topic is about 71,so talk about it

 

[Syed Naved]

I would request a ban on this Syed Naved guy as this guy is here only to flame people.

u guys use abusive words against me,and now saying i just here to flame people !! o man !! i never see such peoples like you,it would be better that we debate about 16th decmber ,71 . but u guys are doing personal attack,showing my personal information from fb ,which is a clear ciber crime.
lets talk about the topic ,debate and clear each ones confusion.but you guys doing just opposite .

 

[Syed Naved]

Bhai maine to Muslims ka naam hi nahi liya aur aap zabardasti usse topic mein laane ko bekaraar ho. Kuch Bangaldeshi nahi, mujhe to bas kuch pseduo-Bangladeshi dikh rahe hain jo apne hi logon ko billi kehte hain.

Waise aapki Hindi aur English dono kafi khatarnak hai...

just give me a simple advice? what will i call those people who hack others personal info aur uski bad uska kuch aur hi matlab nikal late hain.
maine toh kuch aur soch k likha,apne uski koi aur hi matlab nikala. that was a simple sporty status but you bring a political meaning of it !! very strange,maine itna silly person kabhi nai dekha
Sport is Sport ,Politics another thing. Dont mix these two,otherwise u'll be confused .

 

[patna_ke_presley]

O.M.G what a invention ,scared ... but my dear friend can i have a list of them ( those offensive words that i even not use ) ,what a lie !!
this topic is about 71,so talk about it

The words you used against Faarhan is enough to get you banned. Just revisit them once.

 

[Syed Naved]

The words you used against Faarhan is enough to get you banned. Just revisit them once.

u again wrong , farhan did but i do not.he even threat me i did not.he stole my personal information.dont you think these are enough to ban farhan.dont say so much lie.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

u again wrong , farhan did but i do not.he even threat me i did not.he stole my personal information.dont you think these are enough to ban farhan.dont say so much lie.

He just took your real name and it was not difficult to find you on facebook. On this forum, you should not suppose to abuse other particularly the extreme words against him but personal information is not the issue.

 

[kobiraaz]

ok on topic............

jodi mukti joddhara desh biridhi andolon na kore yahya,bhutto birodhi andolon korto ,tobe toh kothai silo na

It was political turmoil first, Mujib was launching his movements ( strike) against Yahya... But operation search light changed all equation..... It was do or die situation for People like Zia Ur Rahman and they started to fight against "The Country Pakistan" ... Now as i know you are a supporter of Zia, explain yourself..... logic behind Operation searchlight and Zia's role....

.kintu tara desh er biruddhe andolon kore,ar sotru desh er sohaita neoate tarao sotru bolei gonno hoben by law.

everything is fair in war, we used India. India used us. Symbiotic. Zia also went to India from Kalurghat for military support....

 

[TopCat]

ar bipoder dine pakistan,iran,iraq,saudi e bd ke help korbe as all of us muslim and brother not india.
jara nijeder ke indian dalal banate pare tara sobi korte pare,tate aschorjo hobar o kisu nei.setai sabhabik

Allah help those who could help thyself. You are always in a mindset that we need some X Y Z to help us. I seen the same mindset from most of Pakistani members as well. Look, not too many Bengalis really care about anybody's help. We are doing great.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

just give me a simple advice? what will i call those people who hack others personal info aur uski bad uska kuch aur hi matlab nikal late hain.
maine toh kuch aur soch k likha,apne uski koi aur hi matlab nikala. that was a simple sporty status but you bring a political meaning of it !! very strange,maine itna silly person kabhi nai dekha
Sport is Sport ,Politics another thing. Dont mix these two,otherwise u'll be confused .

You asked me a question and I am replying. I only know one thing,"Jahan ka namak khao usse wafadaari rakho." chahe aapke ancestor Iraq se aaye ho ya Timbaktu se. Bangladesh team kaisi bhi ho usse apne logon ka support chaiye hota hai, Pakistan team ko aap admire karte ho ghalat nahi hai par Bangladesh ke khilaf 100% ghalat hai.

Ab aage aapki marzi, main koi advice nahi dene wala.

 

[Sheikh Shakib Ahmed]

about dr.fazle rabbi. uni pakistan army na, razakar ar al-badr er kase mara jan.secondly,muktijoddhara silo indian agent,jodi mukti joddhara desh biridhi andolon na kore yahya,bhutto birodhi andolon korto ,tobe toh kothai silo na.kintu tara desh er biruddhe andolon kore,ar sotru desh er sohaita neoate tarao sotru bolei gonno hoben by law.dr.fazle rabbi onek mohan personality holeo uni nijer pesa chikitsa sebar sathe beimani koren ni.sotru-mitro sokol kei medical treatment diechen.specialy muktider,so he was killed.
ekhon jemon,chakma-bangali juddho holo.kono ek chakma pondit onek boro maper lok,kintu uni bd er biruddhe bollen ba jara bd er biruddhe bole tader sohaita dilen,to ki hobe then? takeo sahadat boron korte hobe.
ar sudhu pakistan army keno,world er sob army'r er one theme ," do duty by any means ". orthat ja tomake order deoa holo,ta bhul hok,suddho hok tomake kortei hobe.nahole tomakeo mere fela hobe.ekhane tumi robot ,tomar kono kotha nei,tomake sudhu adesh palon korte hobe.pakistan army o tai koreche.
during Iraq war,many american,british,french soldier Iraq e ei onnai juddher biruddhe silo.tara keu e sekhane jate chaini,marte chaini nirdosh iraqider.kintu as they are army personal,so kathputlir moto tader adesh mante hoeche.
during 1/11 e dhori.fakruddin er hate ki khomota silo,silo na.se sudhu tai koreche ja take moin u bolse korte.ar moin u ahmd o tai korse ,ja take america korte bolse,england,india korte bolse.
onek kisui politician,army personel ra korte chaina ,kintu tader korte hoi baddho hoye.eta tader dosh na,kortobber karone ,ar hat badha thakar karonei ta hoi.
tui amake bolli pakistanider hotta.kintu asolei ki tai.matajihat,nougaon te oder camp e silo.mata jee hath high school e silo oder camp,pasei silo amar nana bari.amar mama toh freedom fighter silo.protidin basai muktijoddhara ase kheye jeto,thakto.kintu pakistan bahini sudhu amar nana ar amar ma er nana er jonno muktijoddhader kisu boleni.even serokom juddhou na.mataji hat e tokhon baloch regiment ase,oder captain silo ,capt.liaqat ali khan.
uni mukti der anagona dekheo na dekhar bhan korten,uni onar battelion asar agei jokhon first ekhane pouchan juddher hath theke matajir lokder bachate tader ke mata ji theke doorer grame pathai den amar ammar nana muslim league er president toyob hazi ke bole.ar uni giei ei order diye den,"none will fire upon bengali or mukti".sei jonnoi pakistan army asar por o nirapode bohulok india te jete pare.
jodio oi somoi gota nouga ar mataji hat e pak army'r camp.kintu only because of balooch regiment bangalira nirapode paliye jate sokkhom hoi.
so dhalaobhabe kisu na jene bola thik na.

I want to ask you, What is the reason of the declaration of independence By the great son of our soil Major Ziaur Rahman ( I, Major Ziaur Rahman to be hear declared the independence of Bangladesh.)

He was not the betrayer to Pakistan in 1965 during Kashmir War with the rival India. He was the well-known War hero of Kashmir War for Pakistan to destroy aggressor enemies.

What was the reason? Which did turn him to take the steps for the survival of the great Bangladeshi Nation?

There is no negotiation with the betrayers and killers(Punjabi cluster). We know our history well. Our leaders , Our army personnel were in their right way for the safe guard of the Nation.

Never try to play with the flag of Bangladeshi Nation by retaining the Bangladeshi flag in your profile.

We are well defined, determined to defend our great Nation.