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16th December 1971: From East Pakistan to Bangladesh

@Farhan, try not to sweat it for a Hilariously stupid kid .
 
Yes, let us ignore him here, the way he abused you he should be banned from this forum. He also abused me with his broken Hindi, the guy really seems nuts.
i'm not only his friend but classmate.tumi jodi udayan er e hou toh amake na chenar kotha na. anyway tomar all confusion ek kothai ami bhangtisi.
ami bd ba bangalir against e bolini.ami bolte cheyechi jei bhabe bd amader desh bole amra bd er birodhita korte parina,temoni pakistan period eo pakistan er birodhita amader uchit hoini.ami martial law,genocide,yahya er biruddhe jate pari ,but why against my country ? aro simple kore dei. somotol er amra theke suru kore chittagong er chakma amra sobai bangladeshi,tai bd er sadhinota rokkha amader noitik daitto.kintu chakmara ki korlo,ora amader bangladeshider marlo,santi-bahini kore juddho ghosona korlo which means bd er against e gelo .jeta sompurno deshdrohita,bd er ek jon citizen hisebe ami,tui,keu e eta korte parina.thik eki bepar pakistan period eo khate.
ar khela ba sports sompurno alada bisoi,karo sathe karo somporko nei(politic,sports).khelate ami je kono dol support kori ,ja khusi boli,that is sport spirit. but ota oi pontoi.
tai bole tumi jodi amar oi comments ke politics er moddhe felo eta nehayet murkhota.tahole bolbo,rajniti somporkei tui poripokko na.pakistan support korlei keu,deshdrohi hoina.
so age valo kore,poro,bojho,then bolo.
 
about dr.fazle rabbi. uni pakistan army na, razakar ar al-badr er kase mara jan.secondly,muktijoddhara silo indian agent,jodi mukti joddhara desh biridhi andolon na kore yahya,bhutto birodhi andolon korto ,tobe toh kothai silo na.kintu tara desh er biruddhe andolon kore,ar sotru desh er sohaita neoate tarao sotru bolei gonno hoben by law.dr.fazle rabbi onek mohan personality holeo uni nijer pesa chikitsa sebar sathe beimani koren ni.sotru-mitro sokol kei medical treatment diechen.specialy muktider,so he was killed.
ekhon jemon,chakma-bangali juddho holo.kono ek chakma pondit onek boro maper lok,kintu uni bd er biruddhe bollen ba jara bd er biruddhe bole tader sohaita dilen,to ki hobe then? takeo sahadat boron korte hobe.
ar sudhu pakistan army keno,world er sob army'r er one theme ," do duty by any means ". orthat ja tomake order deoa holo,ta bhul hok,suddho hok tomake kortei hobe.nahole tomakeo mere fela hobe.ekhane tumi robot ,tomar kono kotha nei,tomake sudhu adesh palon korte hobe.pakistan army o tai koreche.
during Iraq war,many american,british,french soldier Iraq e ei onnai juddher biruddhe silo.tara keu e sekhane jate chaini,marte chaini nirdosh iraqider.kintu as they are army personal,so kathputlir moto tader adesh mante hoeche.
during 1/11 e dhori.fakruddin er hate ki khomota silo,silo na.se sudhu tai koreche ja take moin u bolse korte.ar moin u ahmd o tai korse ,ja take america korte bolse,england,india korte bolse.
onek kisui politician,army personel ra korte chaina ,kintu tader korte hoi baddho hoye.eta tader dosh na,kortobber karone ,ar hat badha thakar karonei ta hoi.
tui amake bolli pakistanider hotta.kintu asolei ki tai.matajihat,nougaon te oder camp e silo.mata jee hath high school e silo oder camp,pasei silo amar nana bari.amar mama toh freedom fighter silo.protidin basai muktijoddhara ase kheye jeto,thakto.kintu pakistan bahini sudhu amar nana ar amar ma er nana er jonno muktijoddhader kisu boleni.even serokom juddhou na.mataji hat e tokhon baloch regiment ase,oder captain silo ,capt.liaqat ali khan.
uni mukti der anagona dekheo na dekhar bhan korten,uni onar battelion asar agei jokhon first ekhane pouchan juddher hath theke matajir lokder bachate tader ke mata ji theke doorer grame pathai den amar ammar nana muslim league er president toyob hazi ke bole.ar uni giei ei order diye den,"none will fire upon bengali or mukti".sei jonnoi pakistan army asar por o nirapode bohulok india te jete pare.
jodio oi somoi gota nouga ar mataji hat e pak army'r camp.kintu only because of balooch regiment bangalira nirapode paliye jate sokkhom hoi.
so dhalaobhabe kisu na jene bola thik na.
 
There are clear convention in UN, categorized a legitimate freedom movement and separtist movement under armed struggle. If for any reason, the state fails to honor the democratic right of some part of the territory, that part have a legitimate right for asking for a separate homeland. In 1971, it was a freedom movement as East Pakistan never enjoyed the same parity and same status as the West Pakistan. It was not only democracy and martial law, but segregation in all aspect of state affairs.

And the war was not started by the East Pakistanis, despite there were riots and street protests. War started by West Pakistanis, why not you go and ask them why the hell they started it? They attacked us, we defended ourselves and finally defeated them and have our own country. Whats wrong with that?

Think about BD army. Will it possible for anybody to order them to attack and start killing the civilians in this country? They will just decline the order. Same things happaend in 1971. The Bengali army did not follow the order and did not go and kill civilians as it was their own countryment. But non Bengali army did follow it as it was their enemy terrritory.

Regarding, Chakmas, they had some genuine grievences. Their armed struggle did put us off guard, but BD army despite some excesses, did not go after civilians and randomly killing them. They always tried to make connection with them and finally came to a settlement with them. You cant compare Chakma struggle and 1971 with the same magnitude.
 
@ Naved, Please write in English with separate paragraphs so that those could be readable.

We cant read, neither your Bengali, Nor your Urdu nor English.
 
What's cricket got to do anything with Islam. I think Pakistan team is just better for many reason. And, some feel connected with them due to our past history.

Kidding aside. But to be honest. Can we produce one Afridi? Ever. I don't think so.

hmm.. ICC all rounder rankings Shakib Al Hasan no.1 and Shahid Afridi no.4. Anyway, i know you will say rankings dont mean much, so lets just forget it.
 
i'm not only his friend but classmate.tumi jodi udayan er e hou toh amake na chenar kotha na. anyway tomar all confusion ek kothai ami bhangtisi.
ami bd ba bangalir against e bolini.ami bolte cheyechi jei bhabe bd amader desh bole amra bd er birodhita korte parina,temoni pakistan period eo pakistan er birodhita amader uchit hoini.ami martial law,genocide,yahya er biruddhe jate pari ,but why against my country ? aro simple kore dei. somotol er amra theke suru kore chittagong er chakma amra sobai bangladeshi,tai bd er sadhinota rokkha amader noitik daitto.kintu chakmara ki korlo,ora amader bangladeshider marlo,santi-bahini kore juddho ghosona korlo which means bd er against e gelo .jeta sompurno deshdrohita,bd er ek jon citizen hisebe ami,tui,keu e eta korte parina.thik eki bepar pakistan period eo khate.
ar khela ba sports sompurno alada bisoi,karo sathe karo somporko nei(politic,sports).khelate ami je kono dol support kori ,ja khusi boli,that is sport spirit. but ota oi pontoi.
tai bole tumi jodi amar oi comments ke politics er moddhe felo eta nehayet murkhota.tahole bolbo,rajniti somporkei tui poripokko na.pakistan support korlei keu,deshdrohi hoina.
so age valo kore,poro,bojho,then bolo.

Mera aapke jaise mahamurkh se nivedan hai ki kripya aap apni vaarta Hindi ya Angrezi bhasha mein likhe kyonki mujh saral manush ko Bangla bhasha samajh mein nahi aati. Aap 1971 ko leke jo kahein par aapke desh mein chahe koi Bharat se kitna bhi Yuddha karna chahe par koi bhi fir se Purvi Pakistan banne ki manokaamna nahi rakhta. Aap kripya yahan bakwas karne ki bajaye Pakistani Uchcha Aayog se guhar lagaye ki aapko wo Pakistan prasthan karne ki vyavastha kar de taki aap apni matribhumi ki taraf prasthan kar sakein. Kyonki Bangladesh mein aapke liye kuch bhi nahi bacha aur har koi gaaliyan de raha hai.
 
hmm.. ICC all rounder rankings Shakib Al Hasan no.1 and Shahid Afridi no.4. Anyway, i know you will say rankings dont mean much, so lets just forget it.
ofcourse ,it's a wrong ranking.there is no comparison with afridi,sakib is just like a child to him
 
There are clear convention in UN, categorized a legitimate freedom movement and separtist movement under armed struggle. If for any reason, the state fails to honor the democratic right of some part of the territory, that part have a legitimate right for asking for a separate homeland. In 1971, it was a freedom movement as East Pakistan never enjoyed the same parity and same status as the West Pakistan. It was not only democracy and martial law, but segregation in all aspect of state affairs.

And the war was not started by the East Pakistanis, despite there were riots and street protests. War started by West Pakistanis, why not you go and ask them why the hell they started it? They attacked us, we defended ourselves and finally defeated them and have our own country. Whats wrong with that?

Think about BD army. Will it possible for anybody to order them to attack and start killing the civilians in this country? They will just decline the order. Same things happaend in 1971. The Bengali army did not follow the order and did not go and kill civilians as it was their own countryment. But non Bengali army did follow it as it was their enemy terrritory.

Regarding, Chakmas, they had some genuine grievences. Their armed struggle did put us off guard, but BD army despite some excesses, did not go after civilians and randomly killing them. They always tried to make connection with them and finally came to a settlement with them. You cant compare Chakma struggle and 1971 with the same magnitude.
'' Regarding, Chakmas, they had some genuine grievences. Their armed struggle did put us off guard, but BD army despite some excesses, did not go after civilians and randomly killing them. They always tried to make connection with them and finally came to a settlement with them. You cant compare Chakma struggle and 1971 with the same magnitude'' ; ami kokhon ta korlam.kintu ja tumi bolle sompurno bhul.
clear evidence is also there.jokhon pillkhana te B.D.R bidroho holo,army was ready to attack b.d.r and stop genocide.kintu it was seikh hasina,jini ta chan ni.tai army personelder iccha thakar por o tara sei hottakando thamate pareni.ar seikhetre completly sohaita seikh hasina ke india dei.
kajei bd army jodi otoi sadhin hoto,tara sekh hasinar order omanno kore bhitore dhuke killing thekato,pore bole dito,"amra order derite paechi".ki hoto tate?keu morto,keu e morto na.otoeb tomader moto kichu gondo gobet jara indiar dalali koro ,ar oi sob indian babu jai bhabuk ,er jonno sotto kokhono bodlabe na.
India will always harm bangladesh,karon tara bd er bondhu noi.Pakistan e holo amader real frnd ,real brother.ar je ek jon muslim hoye onno muslim desh er nirdosh manush k galagal dei ,tader sathe kotha bolao bokami.otoeb ,tomader ja bhabar bhabo.
ar bipoder dine pakistan,iran,iraq,saudi e bd ke help korbe as all of us muslim and brother not india.
jara nijeder ke indian dalal banate pare tara sobi korte pare,tate aschorjo hobar o kisu nei.setai sabhabik
 
Mera aapke jaise mahamurkh se nivedan hai ki kripya aap apni vaarta Hindi ya Angrezi bhasha mein likhe kyonki mujh saral manush ko Bangla bhasha samajh mein nahi aati. Aap 1971 ko leke jo kahein par aapke desh mein chahe koi Bharat se kitna bhi Yuddha karna chahe par koi bhi fir se Purvi Pakistan banne ki manokaamna nahi rakhta. Aap kripya yahan bakwas karne ki bajaye Pakistani Uchcha Aayog se guhar lagaye ki aapko wo Pakistan prasthan karne ki vyavastha kar de taki aap apni matribhumi ki taraf prasthan kar sakein. Kyonki Bangladesh mein aapke liye kuch bhi nahi bacha aur har koi gaaliyan de raha hai.
it's the barking of some dogs.some may barks like these editic fool,but all the bangladeshi don't.
maine kab kaha bangal ko purvi pakistan hona chahiye.jo maine bola hi naheen aap uspar hi amaal kar dia. marvelous.
aur ek baat,pakistan is pakistan.no matter how hard you some kind of fools try to break it,allah will protect pakistan.
aur bangladesh mein mere liye kuch bacha ya nahi uski chinta ap na kare to bhtar.kyonki jise aap bakwas bol rahe hain ,vohi sach hain.aur ek baat pakistan k khilaf aap log sirf bakwas hi kar sakte ho,uski alava aur kuch nahi.toh kripya pakistan aur muslim k khilaf bakas karne ki bajaye aap thoda history se knowladge gain kare :rofl:
 
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