10 Turkish Military Projects that Turkiye will join to Elite Club ( 2023-2028 )

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All based on imported technologies. If ahead = more imports in your universe, then you're right.

Your lies and butthurt feeling wont change the reality

Turkiye becomes global defense industry and İran only can dream about it
go and dream with fake propaganda QAHER-313

 

[Philosopher]

keep crying jealous Iranians

Jealous about what exactly? That you're admitting to be assembling another nations' hardware and claiming you made it?

Your lies and butthurt feeling wont change the reality

I am posting sources to back all my claims. What about you? your only attempts at a counterargument is calling others jealous and other forms of juvenile name calling.

Turkiye becomes global defense industry

Perhaps in some realm of fantasy, but in the real world.

and İran only can dream about it

Iran is busy exporting hardware to the likes of Russia whilst you're busy importing Canadian tech.

 

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Where does it claim until 2021?

In 2021 Canada used embargo on Turkiye
and since 2021 Canada doesnt sell WESCAM to BAYKAR

BAYKAR buying CATS E/O System from Turkish company ASELSAN
All Turkish users knows about it

 

[Philosopher]

In 2021 Canada used embargo on Turkiye
and since 2021 Canada doesnt sell WESCAM to BAYKAR

Once again, you think people cannot do their own research?

How Turkey Bypasses Western Arms Embargoes​

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: US and Canadian embargoes are threatening Turkey’s attack helicopter and drone sales to third-party countries. Ankara has come up with a corporate legal solution to this problem, but it might fail to overcome the political impetus behind the export restrictions.
All of this is bad for Turkey’s defense industry, which is struggling for both self-sufficiency and sustainable exports. But the industry’s Achilles heel is its drone systems—particularly the TB-2 Bayraktar, the armed, combat-proven system so trendy among drone buyers around the globe. Baykar Makina, the TB-2’s manufacturer, has sold the system to Ukraine, Qatar, and Azerbaijan so far. In December, TAI won an $80 million contract to sell its Anka drone system to Tunisia.

Next in line is Morocco, which wants to buy 13 TB-2 systems. But on April 12, Canada announced the cancellation of 29 military export permits to Turkey. This includes Wescam electro-optical sensor cameras, which are manufactured by L3Harris and used in TB-2 drones—they are, in fact, the heart of the whole drone system. Canadian FM Marc Garneau said, “Following a review of evidence that Canadian technology exported to Turkey is being used in Nagorno-Karabakh, I am announcing the cancellation of suspended permits [from] the fall of 2020.”

In their initial reactions, Turkish officials downplayed the Canadian embargo for domestic propaganda purposes. Chief defense procurement official Demir said the TB-2s, equipped with locally made CATS electro-optical cameras, had already been delivered to Turkish security forces. CATS was developed by military electronics specialist Aselsan, Turkey’s biggest defense company. Aselsan tweeted that “CATS is ready to serve our nation.” “Canada produces no UAV, so what technology have they embargoed?” quipped Selçuk Bayraktar, Baykar’s technical manager (and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s son-in-law).

Propaganda aside, insiders know that CATS is not a combat-proven E/O system, and that potential buyers of the TB-2 want the system “as is”—i.e., with Canadian sensors, which is no longer a possibility. It may take years for Aselsan to mature the CATS to optimally fit into the TB-2, if it can do it at all.

What to do?

In one proposed solution, Morocco can purchase the TB-2 from Turkey without an E/O pod, then buy the Wescam system from Canada separately and combine the two systems. Or the Canadian E/O system could be delivered to Bayrak for installation but on condition that the entire system then moves to Morocco. After all, Canada has embargoed Turkey, not Morocco or the TB-2’s other future buyers.

There is some corporate legal logic to this idea, but its realism is doubtful. It is true that weapons systems embargoes are imposed on the end-user country, not the producing country. In other words, if the US sees no harm in Pakistan (or the Philippines) operating Turkish-made T129 helicopters, it can issue export licenses for the LHTEC T800-4A engine for the Turkish-Pakistani (or Turkish-Philippines) contracts. Similarly, if the Canadian government has no political reason to object to Morocco‘s using the TB-2 equipped with Wescam sensors, it can vet the deal.

How Turkey Bypasses Western Arms Embargoes

US and Canadian embargoes are threatening Turkey’s attack helicopter and drone sales to third-party countries. Ankara has come up with a corporate legal solution to this problem, but it might fail t

besacenter.org

BAYKAR buying CATS E/O System from Turkish company ASELSAN
All Turkish users knows about it

Fake news, see above.

 

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Jealous about what exactly? That you're admitting to be assembling another nations' hardware and claiming you made it?

You are so pathetic

Western Countries also dreaming about KIZILELMA and AKINCI

except USA , No country in the West could match with Turkish UCAV technology

 

[Philosopher]

You are so pathetic

Western Countries also dreaming about KIZILELMA and AKINCI

except USA , No country in the West could match with Turkish UCAV technology

Those UAVs are based on foreign technologies, such as engines. But even then Turkish UAVs are actually very crude.

Bayraktars Are Falling! Turkey’s ‘Much-Hyped’ TB2 Drones Are Losing Steam Against Russian Missiles As Ukraine Limits Their Usage

There are signs that the hype around Turkish TB-2 Bayraktar drones’ lethality is being busted. Cracks have emerged in the Ukrainian military over continuing their use after improved Russian air defenses shot down scores of Bayraktar drones.

Bayraktars Are Falling! Turkey's 'Much-Hyped' TB2 Drones Are Losing Steam Against Russian Missiles As Ukraine Limits Their Usage

The Bayraktar TB2 drone had been effective against Russian armored and logistics columns in the initial days of the Ukraine war.

eurasiantimes.com

 

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Once again, you think people cannot do their own research?

What a troll .. your source is from 2021

source from 2022
ASELSAN CATS integration has been completed for Bayraktar TB2 and ANKA-S SİHAs

Bayraktar TB2 ve ANKA-S SİHA'lara ASELSAN CATS entegrasyonu tamamlandı

ASELSAN faaliyet raporunda, CATS EO Sensör Sisteminin TB-2 ve ANKA-S SİHA'lara entegrasyonları tamamlandığı açıklandı.

www.defenceturk.net

 

[Philosopher]

What a troll .. your source is from 2021 idiot

source from 2022
ASELSAN CATS integration has been completed for Bayraktar TB2 and ANKA-S SİHAs

Bayraktar TB2 ve ANKA-S SİHA'lara ASELSAN CATS entegrasyonu tamamlandı

ASELSAN faaliyet raporunda, CATS EO Sensör Sisteminin TB-2 ve ANKA-S SİHA'lara entegrasyonları tamamlandığı açıklandı.

www.defenceturk.net

There is no independent sources showing that Turkey is no longer relying on western E/O systems. Turkish sources are propaganda in this regard.

The article I posted above nicely shows you the reality.

 

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Those UAVs are based on foreign technologies, such as engines. But even then Turkish UAVs are actually very crude.

Israeli and Iranian Drones also uses foreign engine .. so what ?


TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR UCAVs are 100% indigenous including TEI PD-170 Engine

 

[Philosopher]

Israeli and Iranian Drones also uses foreign engine .. so what ?


TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR UCAVs are 100% indigenous including TEI PD-170 Engine
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The point is, as I demonstrated, your UAVs are relying on imported technology across the board from everything from engine to the electronics.

None of those engines, E/O which you claimed are Turkish (in reality are not) are being used in these UAVs. The evidence shows your UAVs are made up of foreign technologies. I have posted probably like a dozen independent sources already. I have seen nothing independent from you. Nothing but hot air and claims.

 

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There is no independent sources showing that Turkey is no longer relying on western E/O systems. Turkish sources are propaganda in this regard.

The article I posted above nicely shows you the reality.

Stop trolling and read international sources

Turkish made Bayraktar TB2 UCAV successfully performed first test shot using CATS Electro-Optical system

Baykar Defense announced that Bayraktar TB2 successfully carried out its first test shot using the electro-optical reconnaissance, surveillance and targeting system CATS developed by ASELSAN. Baykar Defense made the following statement made on its Twitter account: “Bayraktar TB2 successfully...

www.defensehere.com

Turkey's Baykar Inks Deal to Replace Embargoed Drone Electro-Optic Systems

Turkish defense giant Aselsan and drone magnate Baykar signed a new contract worth $17.6 million, both companies announced Wednesday. Aselsan made a...

www.defense-aerospace.com

Turkish Bayratkar Attack Drone Gets Deadlier with New Targeting System

Turkish Bayratkar Attack Drone Gets Deadlier with New Targeting System

www.defensemirror.com

The point is, as I demonstrated, your UAVs are relying on imported technology across the board from everything from engine to the electronics.

TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR UCAVs are 100% indigenous including TEI PD-170 Engine and Aselsan CATS E/O System

go and cry more and more
I will report you for trolling ... Topic is over

 

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I thought the Greeks were jealous, but I apologize to the Greeks. Iranians are much more jealous.

Again, I thought the Greeks were talking nonsense, but the Iranians are bullshit much more.

They do not believe in Turkey's defense industry, which sells drones to 30 countries in the world. In 10 years, we will be able to sell Kaan, Hürjet, helicopters, tanks, ships and air defense systems. We will be one of the top 5 countries with the highest military exports in the world. In 10 years, Iranians will be rolling in a deeper shit hole.

Greeks, I love you more now. you are much smarter.

 

[Philosopher]

Stop trolling and read international sources

Turkish made Bayraktar TB2 UCAV successfully performed first test shot using CATS Electro-Optical system

Baykar Defense announced that Bayraktar TB2 successfully carried out its first test shot using the electro-optical reconnaissance, surveillance and targeting system CATS developed by ASELSAN. Baykar Defense made the following statement made on its Twitter account: “Bayraktar TB2 successfully...

www.defensehere.com

Turkey's Baykar Inks Deal to Replace Embargoed Drone Electro-Optic Systems

Turkish defense giant Aselsan and drone magnate Baykar signed a new contract worth $17.6 million, both companies announced Wednesday. Aselsan made a...

www.defense-aerospace.com

International sources posting Turkish claims. There is no evidence that any of these systems used in Turkish UAVs are no longer relying on foreign technologies. As the article I posted above showed Turkey is trying to get around sanctions.

Here is a news from this year:

How South Africa’s Hensoldt supplied gimbals to Bayraktar TB2 drone users​

South Africa’s defence company Hensoldt has been selling it’s gimbal products to countries buying the Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones, albeit discreetly.

Military Africa has tracked at least three users of Hensoldt’s ARGOS-II HDT EO/FLIR Airborne Observation System, instead of the usual Canadian L3 WESCAM MX-15D, or Turkish Aselsan CATS gimbal on their Bayraktar TB2s.

How South Africa’s Hensoldt supplied gimbals to Bayraktar TB2 drone users

South Africa's defence company Hensoldt has been selling it's gimbal products to countries buying the Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones, albeit

www.military.africa

Your attempts at spreading propaganda are failing miserably here.

 

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MALI TB2 with CATS

kırgız tb2 with cats

 

[Foinikas]

My suggestion is. You use Greek industrial products to confront him. Instead of calling for help from others.

He mentioned Iran himself.

last time armenians were moaning "those are imported parts"

Yes and they were. They were eventually replaced.