1,200 Sikhs take refuge in Punja Sahib

[paritosh]

It seems somebodies *** is on fire. Anyways for the last line i would recommend you Indians the same " rather then worring about the rights of minorities in Pakistan, take a look in the mirror first and worry about that instead.

nobody's star star star is on fire...it's a forum...you cant answer direct questions being asked to you....i understand...dont fret about it...nobody's judging you..

as far as the latter part of your post...ditto for you mister!

 

[IceCold]

That was an opinion based and nothing related to reality. Most of what you have written was nothing more then a mere rant. I hope you understand that this isn't BR where anything written on Pakistan from an Indian POV is always considered true. You were asked to present a neutral link and nothing but more rant came out of you.
Anyways Pakistani sikhs are going nowhere so hold your horses. Pretty soon they will be reestablished along with other thousand Pakistanis. You don't need to worry about that.GodSpeed.

 

[paritosh]

i would find it better not to worry about their case..for they are Pakistanis and not Indians...but what i expect is for the Pakistanis of atleast this forum is to have a similar outlook for the muslims of india and not make issues out of what happens to the Indians whether they be hindus or muslims...we clear about it?

 

[IceCold]

The only time some one from Pakistani side would cry out about a muslim abuse would be one in Kashmir as the territory is disputed, the rest only is a mud slinging context from both sides.

 

[ajpirzada]

you are right...and the preferential treatment of the sikhs that is being discussed is understandable....
you are right again in saying that the displacement of millions is a backdrop of the topic of thread asit is a war going on....
but when the war was not going on....sikhs were being singled out by the taliban in having to pay that draconian protection money...and as they failed to pay'p...their ancient homes were destroyed...
my point being...that your govt has to do more than that...handling of minorities is difficult...indeed.
i am of the opinion that rehabilitating the sikhs in some urban city where people are more moderate and adjusting in their outlook like in karachi would be the best option...then would come the option of their being sent to India...cus when you compare the plight of the sikhs and other non-muslim minorities in pakistan...moving base would be more difficult....so the govt has to single out these handful sikh families and do extra for them...for they are your minorities...failing to do so..would result in a major diplomatic loss for you'd loose the edge while speaking for the muslims of India...dont you agree?

atleast u accept that gov is treatin them better than the other IDPs though there is a need to do more... its not easy to move 300 families to any big city and then arrange a source of income for them. these ppl had their own businesses and it will be much better to move them back to their area once this fightin is over and help them rebuild their destroyed properties. and if it takes too long then obviously there is will be no other option but to move them else where

 

[Zob]

paritosh you are shying away from my answer...its OK you can keep arguing around about nothing!!!
i think i answered what you asked ICE COLD!!!

 

[Zob]

There are not 300 families, but 20,000 sikhs in pakistan

Pakistan

Secondly, don't be so defensive about it, people change countries all the time. Did you know recently many pakistani hindus moved to India?

fateh when you want to raise a point i think it would be better if you read my whole reply not just the point that you thought u wanted to answer.....!!

 

[Zob]

and fateh can you give me a link to where it says that PAKISTANI hindus left to go to INDIA....this one just for my knowledge bro....

 

[notsuperstitious]

and fateh can you give me a link to where it says that PAKISTANI hindus left to go to INDIA....this one just for my knowledge bro....

rediff.com: No more safe at home, Pak Hindus flee

There's threads on the forum too. Again, I don't think its a big deal if people want to change their country, but don't discount the news just because its in indian sources.

 

[paritosh]

The only time some one from Pakistani side would cry out about a muslim abuse would be one in Kashmir as the territory is disputed, the rest only is a mud slinging context from both sides.

dude...it's funny...the plight of the kashmiri pandits went unnoticed...the were driven out of their lands by the militants that garner support from your quarters....they had to be rehabilitated...and the GoI did that...why do you make religion the basis for everything?
on a side note...lets avoid talking about kashmir here....

 

[Zob]

very intresting now the indians want us to comment on this thread...even better extradite them to india so that they can be slaughtered just the way they were in 1984....and JAGDISH TYTLER is set free....DIGITLITER if you might wish to comment i recommend you go read another thread with sikhs of orakzai before you make audacious statements against pakistanis....these sikhs are PAKISTANIS infact maybe a better pakistani then i am...and if they wished to come to YOUR INDIA....they could have left ages ago but they didn't....because they are happy in pakistan...because it is THEIR PAKISTAN

no one in INDIA even knew we had sikhs in these areas until the god cursed taliban came along and started killing PAKISTANIS(note to me their religion caste,creed doesn't matter)!!!


our NWFP information minister even went their to see them and distribute aid....i don't recall him going to other areas to see displaced SWAT people....sorry my INDIAN FRIENDS....your argument...infact you don't even have an argument!!

i am quoting myself again so maybe fateh you might be able to read what i wrote..... i also wrote in reply to PARITOSH who asked me 1 only one sikh is in the pakistan army when "sikhs are KNOWN to be warriors"....well i answered that not all INDIAN SIKHS are in the army either....

 

[Zob]

as for your post on pakistani hindus well...firstly ONLY an indian source is not right just like ONLY a pakistani source is deemed incorrect by alot of you when it is convinent to do so...but however,for the sake of the argument....well if they left i wish them luck and god speed....

but the issue is sikhs currently...sikhs who have not left pakistan in over 60 years....sikhs who have never been hurt in ahyway...sikhs who coexsist in our society and might even be more patriotic then i am....

 

[paritosh]

as for SIKHS being proven warrior...well in 300 families i am sorry we can't form a regiment i don't know how it is done in india....1 in 300 i think the ratio is still better than in india....as for proven warriors are all indian SIKHs warriors...is everyone in india who is a sikh is in the army??? if you really think that these indians if they wanted to migrate anything can stop them i am sure INDIAN GOVERNMENT will have a ball just imagining the propaganda they can create with them migrating to the INDIA....so i don't think anything is stopping these sikhs from leaving....except maybe their PATRIOTISM!!

there are an estimated 50,000 sikhs in pakistan...and yet i have heard of only three sardars making it big in pakistan...!
the Indian parsi community is even smaller...yet we've had many army generals and officers of parsi origin...many industrialists are of parsi origin...
and as far as their leaving paksitan is concerned...you surely havne't heard of the horrors of partition from your grand-parents now have you?

 

[IceCold]

dude...it's funny...the plight of the kashmiri pandits went unnoticed...the were driven out of their lands by the militants that garner support from your quarters....they had to be rehabilitated...and the GoI did that...why do you make religion the basis for everything?
on a side note...lets avoid talking about kashmir here....

Havent you raised your point on the bases of religion in your post number 18 saying pakistanis at this forum should have a similar out look for muslims in India and should avoid making a issue out of it be it muslims. i responded to the same saying we will only make a noise when something happens in kashmir because its a disputed territory and all the rest is just mud slinging.
Anyways lets drop the issue altogether.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Havent you raised your point on the bases of religion in your post number 18 saying pakistanis at this forum should have a similar out look for muslims in India and should avoid making a issue out of it be it muslims. i responded to the same saying we will only make a noise when something happens in kashmir because its a disputed territory and all the rest is just mud slinging.
Anyways lets drop the issue altogether.

There's sticky on Babri and one on 'Hindu sites only for Hinduism'.

I agree, good to drop these altogether.