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[karan.1970]

Make it count, stop wasting the thread.

I'm done if you are....

 

[notsuperstitious]

Put it this way, the comments in the first post of this thread, warranted it getting the severe beating up/down/left/right that it has gotten.

As I said, whenever superioriority complexed people talk this way the only recourse is to bring them down to their actual level. Their aukaad.

Thank you admin bhai for showing us our aukaad. That is always welcome. I try doing that to religious supremacists here all the time. bharaas nikal jaati hain

But i was complaining about the off topic manner, the offensive manner of calling people munafiq and all, the manner of debate typically discouraged / punished on this site of showing people aukaad. Hey, but its your website mate

Them damn munafiqin posting such articles here i hope their hindu masters are pleased now

I learned a new word today, munafiqin, i'm gonna have a field day.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Except for the article posted, no Indian has actually cared to meddle in Pakistani affairs.....

But please follow the posts and see that it is the Pakistani Posters and members here who feel they are the saviors of Indian Muslims and somehow feel they should intervene for Gujrat Massacre, Babri Masjid....etc etc...

Talking about meddling in others affairs are we....?
Practice what you preach sir....

Nearly every other Indian member on this forum, interferes in Pakistan's affairs. Some posts comments and some post articles of sources trying to interfere in our business.

So get the image of Indians correct. The like to poke their noses in nearly every thread related to Pakistan, especially in a thread which has something good related to Pakistan.

Try to surf more and see how Indians poke their noses in everything related to Pakistan. Or see the threads started with things related to Pakistan.

 

[Peshwa]

Nearly every other Indian member on this forum, interferes in Pakistan's affairs. Some posts comments and some post articles of sources trying to interfere in our business.

So get the image of Indians correct. The like to poke their noses in nearly every thread related to Pakistan, especially in a thread which has something good related to Pakistan.

Try to surf more and see how Indians poke their noses in everything related to Pakistan. Or see the threads started with things related to Pakistan.

Isnt that the point of this forum?...To comment and debate on International and military affairs?....
Or am I missing something?

How would you have it otherwise.......

 

[TaimiKhan]

Isnt that the point of this forum?...To comment and debate on International and military affairs?....
Or am I missing something?

How would you have it otherwise.......

Commenting and debating is something else. And the Indian members who comment and debate are rare, majority are here for the anti-pakistan, troll party.

They poke their noses more in our affairs, compared to debating and commenting.

But if they wish to poke their noses, then should be prepared for others poking too.

 

[Nemesis]

Nearly every other Indian member on this forum, interferes in Pakistan's affairs. Some posts comments and some post articles of sources trying to interfere in our business.

Eh? As Asim has been constantly pointing out, this is a forum dealing with Pakistani affairs. If there are Indian members allowed on the forum, obviously they would be "poking their noses" in Pakistani affairs.

However this still does not answer why some Pakistani members think they have the god given right to voice the concerns of Indian muslims, or for that matter care about Indian muslims in the first place.

They poke their noses more in our affairs, compared to debating and commenting.

But if they wish to poke their noses, then should be prepared for others poking too.

One wrong justifies another? Is that the logic you're using?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Eh? As Asim has been constantly pointing out, this is a forum dealing with Pakistani affairs. If there are Indian members allowed on the forum, obviously they would be "poking their noses" in Pakistani affairs.

However this still does not answer why some Pakistani members think they have the god given right to voice the concerns of Indian muslims, or for that matter care about Indian muslims in the first place.



One wrong justifies another? Is that the logic you're using?

Whatever makes you and other happy, think that way.

 

[Peshwa]

Commenting and debating is something else. And the Indian members who comment and debate are rare, majority are here for the anti-pakistan, troll party.

They poke their noses more in our affairs, compared to debating and commenting.

But if they wish to poke their noses, then should be prepared for others poking too.

Completely agreed with you here....

But do read my response....It was referring to the fact that no Indian has ever taken up the cause for Sikhs or Hindus of Pakistani origin....
Lets take for example the news piece about the Sikhs of NWFP being harassed by Talibs...(Dont remember the title verbatim)....

Did any Indian ever say or act like they were morally responsible or accountable for these people??.....
As opposed to Indian Muslims being called puppets, Munafiqs, tax payers to the evil Hindu dominated India....to the extent that some comments go as far as "freeing" these folks from this tyranny....

My objection is to the fact that Muslims of India are Indians first....Muslims later.....But comments from some senior members here speak otherwise.....

Dont you think being called puppets and munafiqs is disrespectful and an attack on the free thinking of Indian Muslims such as Ejaz and Abdul....especially when Pakistani's on this forum are so gung-ho about "self-determination"...?

 

[Windjammer]

Just because Indian Muslims dont tug your line of thinking....so they become "Indian puppets"....

Since they are content on living as second class citizen, there is no skin off my back.


Is it really that hard to bare that muslims in the subcontinent can actually live peacefully in a secular democracy side by side with the Hindus....or is it that after choosing your own fate based on religion, your country is still in shambles?[/QUOTE]
The peace and harmony is overwhelming, i guess all the mishaps mentioned earlier are parts of the healthy democracy, what you as an Indian term as shambles, others with knowledge of ground realities regard it as resilience and steadfast of a nation that very few posses.
The draw back is our lack luster media has failed to produce any drama queens to counter yours.



^^^^(Highlighted) We would be equally concerned if the Taj Mahal, Lal Qilla, or ruins at Mohenjodaro were destroyed......All part of our history Hindu, Muslim,Sikh, Buddhist, Jain...we consider them all our own...

But seems that others choose history selectively based on religion....hence one only PMS's for the Babri Masjid on your side....[/QUOTE]
After trampling Golden Temple, destroying Babri Mosque and burning down churches, the rest remains to be seen, however i am not holding my breath.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Completely agreed with you here....

But do read my response....It was referring to the fact that no Indian has ever taken up the cause for Sikhs or Hindus of Pakistani origin....
Lets take for example the news piece about the Sikhs of NWFP being harassed by Talibs...(Dont remember the title verbatim)....

Did any Indian ever say or act like they were morally responsible or accountable for these people??.....
As opposed to Indian Muslims being called puppets, Munafiqs, tax payers to the evil Hindu dominated India....to the extent that some comments go as far as "freeing" these folks from this tyranny....

My objection is to the fact that Muslims of India are Indians first....Muslims later.....But comments from some senior members here speak otherwise.....

Dont you think being called puppets and munafiqs is disrespectful and an attack on the free thinking of Indian Muslims such as Ejaz and Abdul....especially when Pakistani's on this forum are so gung-ho about "self-determination"...?

In future i will make sure to let you know the posts of Indian members poking their noses in any affairs of Pakistan.

And yeah i do remember well what were the comments of Indians on that Taliban Sikh issue.

I am a moderator and I see many things from Indians in which they have to come and troll.

See the Indian & US SF plans for securing Pakistan's nukes thread and see what Indians had to say.

So now finish this angel thing talks, we are not angels on this forum and Indians too are definitely not angels from any angle.

 

[karan.1970]

Since they are content on living as second class citizen, there is no skin off my back.

The peace and harmony is overwhelming, i guess all the mishaps mentioned earlier are parts of the healthy democracy, what you as an Indian term as shambles, others with knowledge of ground realities regard it as resilience and steadfast of a nation that very few posses.
The draw back is our lack luster media has failed to produce any drama queens to counter yours.
^^^^(Highlighted) We would be equally concerned if the Taj Mahal, Lal Qilla, or ruins at Mohenjodaro were destroyed......All part of our history Hindu, Muslim,Sikh, Buddhist, Jain...we consider them all our own...

After trampling Golden Temple, destroying Babri Mosque and burning down churches, the rest remains to be seen, however i am not holding my breath.

Hey Friend.. You are back.. So once again
Not your Golden Temple
Not your Mosque
Not your churches..

C'mon dude.. Isnt it better that each of us bother more about our own side of the fence (or LOC). Each of us enough problems of our own to go trying to find solutions for others..

PS: India selected its president 3 times from the same group of people you call second class citizens.

 

[Peshwa]

Since they are content on living as second class citizen, there is no skin off my back.

Im sure that Pakistani passport comes in real handy when getting clearance at Heathrow....LOL!!!

But hey....King of your castle is all that matters right....or is that frog in the well?....You decide....

The peace and harmony is overwhelming, i guess all the mishaps mentioned earlier are parts of the healthy democracy, what you as an Indian term as shambles, others with knowledge of ground realities regard it as resilience and steadfast of a nation that very few posses.
The draw back is our lack luster media has failed to produce any drama queens to counter yours.

Fair enough.....Everyone loves their own country....and "ground realites" are known by only those who live in the said place...correct?

Then why so quick to jump the gun to call Indian Muslims "Second class citizens" without knowing the "ground realities" and even after getting input from actual Indian Muslims who would tell you otherwise????

You are right about the highlighted part....India is in no way a perfect democracy....in fact far from it....
But we are a multi-cultural.....Multi-religious....Multi-ethnic society....There is bound to be strife and its a disease we need to cure with education...but we hope to be in order one day....(Sooner than later I hope).....

Even developed countries with 100% literacy and thriving economies have such internal problems (Take France and Britain for example).....we are only a third world developing nation striving for more....

But what's Pakistan's reason for being in shambles??....Dont you have everything that your forefathers aspired for?...A seperate nation for the Muslims of the subcontinent etc.....Why the mess?.....

No matter what you say...at this point in time....there is more peace in India than Pakistan....(we must be doing something right?...or maybe somebody is not doing enough to disturb our peace....however u look at it)

After trampling Golden Temple, destroying Babri Mosque and burning down churches, the rest remains to be seen, however i am not holding my breath.

Yep and Indians are equally sad and angry about those events/destruction......
Hence you see Indira Gandhi no more and the Lieberhan commission for investigation.....
What more are you looking for.....mind control for our population?....Sorry but we arent as technologically advanced as your Chinese allies.....

 

[Windjammer]

Hey Friend.. You are back.. So once again
Not your Golden Temple
Not your Mosque
Not your churches..

C'mon dude.. Isnt it better that each of us bother more about our own side of the fence (or LOC). Each of us enough problems of our own to go trying to find solutions for others..

PS: India selected its president 3 times from the same group of people you call second class citizens.

Now where have i heard all that, empty pots make more noise hence, since the subjects are quoted, replying in kind is paramount.

 

[karan.1970]

Now where have i heard all that, empty pots make more noise hence, since the subjects are quoted, replying in kind is paramount.

When the baseless comments are repeated, so are responses. Do you have anything of substance to add to the 2nd class citizens' comment of yours??

 

[Windjammer]

Im sure that Pakistani passport comes in real handy when getting clearance at Heathrow....LOL!!!

But hey....King of your castle is all that matters right....or is that frog in the well?....You decide....




Fair enough.....Everyone loves their own country....and "ground realites" are known by only those who live in the said place...correct?

Then why so quick to jump the gun to call Indian Muslims "Second class citizens" without knowing the "ground realities" and even after getting input from actual Indian Muslims who would tell you otherwise????

You are right about the highlighted part....India is in no way a perfect democracy....in fact far from it....
But we are a multi-cultural.....Multi-religious....Multi-ethnic society....There is bound to be strife and its a disease we need to cure with education...but we hope to be in order one day....(Sooner than later I hope).....

Even developed countries with 100% literacy and thriving economies have such internal problems (Take France and Britain for example).....we are only a third world developing nation striving for more....

But what's Pakistan's reason for being in shambles??....Dont you have everything that your forefathers aspired for?...A seperate nation for the Muslims of the subcontinent etc.....Why the mess?.....

No matter what you say...at this point in time....there is more peace in India than Pakistan....(we must be doing something right?...or maybe somebody is not doing enough to disturb our peace....however u look at it)



Yep and Indians are equally sad and angry about those events/destruction......
Hence you see Indira Gandhi no more and the Lieberhan commission for investigation.....
What more are you looking for.....mind control for our population?....Sorry but we arent as technologically advanced as your Chinese allies.....

And i wouldn't fancy holding an Indian Passport while entering Australia, amongst others, it's called pot calling the kettle black.
And as for Indian Muslims, it's not my judgement and unless you suspect British media is pro Pakistan, there is plenty material to serve to your heart's content.
Talking of ground realities, who is floating their boat by keep concluding as Pakistan being in shambles. I suppose it's difficult to resist to have a swipe.
Some country's utilize technology to their benefit while others resort to sheer manpowers and what better example than Shiv sena and RSS, who of the late seem to control your sporting events.
Old habits die hard.