Xi's China rising, Trump's America waning

[F-22Raptor]

Same is true for every country.

Again, none of you can actually state what is declining. These threads would have been far more relevant a decade ago when our economy was collapsing. Not now, when our economy is on a roll.

 

[gambit]

Same is true for every country.

The difference -- and problem for other countries -- is that we have institutional mechanisms that give the people the authority, and if necessary the power, to remove a fool. With other countries, while they may have in theory such mechanisms, those methods are inherently weak that those in power can ignore the laws and the people to remain in office for as long as they feel like it.

You guys often criticize US for being slow to action on something like fixing our infrastructures. But you missed the larger point completely. That a government that is quick to do good is also quick to do evil.

 

[beijingwalker]

Again, none of you can actually state what is declining. These threads would have been far more relevant a decade ago when our economy was collapsing. Not now, when our economy is on a roll.

If you compare where US was when comparing to other countries 20 years ago and look at its position now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it is declining.

The difference -- and problem for other countries -- is that we have institutional mechanisms that give the people the authority, and if necessary the power, to remove a fool. With other countries, while they may have in theory such mechanisms, those methods are inherently weak that those in power can ignore the laws and the people to remain in office for as long as they feel like it.

You guys often criticize US for being slow to action on something like fixing our infrastructures. But you missed the larger point completely. That a government that is quick to do good is also quick to do evil.

Then be quick to do good.

 

[truthseeker2010]

The difference -- and problem for other countries -- is that we have institutional mechanisms that give the people the authority, and if necessary the power, to remove a fool. With other countries, while they may have in theory such mechanisms, those methods are inherently weak that those in power can ignore the laws and the people to remain in office for as long as they feel like it.

You guys often criticize US for being slow to action on something like fixing our infrastructures. But you missed the larger point completely. That a government that is quick to do good is also quick to do evil.

From this we can also figure out that US is slow on accepting realities

 

[F-22Raptor]

If you compare where US was when comparing to other countries 20 years ago and look at its position now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it is declining.


Then be quick to do good.

Why stop at 20 years? Go back 30-40 years ago to the middle of the Cold War. Even with competition we remained the preeminent power. Competition is not new to US.

 

[gambit]

If you compare where US was when comparing to other countries 20 years ago and look at its position now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it is declining.

A real rocket scientist would not see the US as 'declining'.

Then be quick to do good.

Did you missed what I said: A government that is quick to do good is also quick to do evil ?

The core of the issue is to make the government more deliberative, especially when its powers are vast. To start off, you make the people in government came from the people and the best is thru democratic methods. Of course, you do not believe in democracy any way...

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

What is exactly declining again? Sure, the world hates Trump, but he's temporary. The US can easily regain its influence among its allies under a new presidency. Meanwhile, the US economy is outperforming most of the world, including China. We remain at the forefront of science and technology, and our cultural influence remains unparalleled.

It's become obvious that certain members of this forum use these types of threads to peddle their anti-American hate, envy, and spitefulness.

I have lot of respect for common Americans just like other members of forum have. The problem is whole world is tired of US, now especially of her government....Just go and check comment sections of YouTube. Your allies like UK and her citizens...what they are writing on their news articles is to me beyond shocking.

Never I have seen such hatred for US. But lets assured...People hate US government not people.

 

[beijingwalker]

A real rocket scientist would not see the US as 'declining'.

So let's forget about GDP for a moment, China now thinks less and less of GDP growth, it's just a number and many times not accurate, but let's check about what are happening on the ground zero in every trade and industry, US is losing ground all across board to China and there's no sign of stop. Deny it as you will, but the whole world can see it.

 

[F-22Raptor]

A real rocket scientist would not see the US as 'declining'.


Did you missed what I said: A government that is quick to do good is also quick to do evil ?

The core of the issue is to make the government more deliberative, especially when its powers are vast. To start off, you make the people in government came from the people and the best is thru democratic methods. Of course, you do not believe in democracy any way...

The Chinese PDF brigade is under the assumption that now the US has some competition we're in terminal decline. Apparently, the era from around 1910-1990 have completely slipped their minds.

 

[gambit]

...US is losing ground all across board to China and there's no sign of stop. Deny it as you will, but the whole world can see it.

What 'board' ?

When there is a crisis of any kind anywhere in the world, who calls for China ? Even in your own backyard, the US takes the lead. We call you, not because we need help in the sense that we cannot take on NKR, but because we do believe in cooperation.

 

[beijingwalker]

The Chinese PDF brigade is under the assumption that now the US has some competition we're in terminal decline. Apparently, the era from around 1910-1990 have completely slipped their minds.

The fact that you mentioned 1910-1990 itself shows you are declining now.

What 'board' ?

When there is a crisis of any kind anywhere in the world, who calls for China ? Even in your own backyard, the US takes the lead. We call you, not because we need help in the sense that we cannot take on NKR, but because we do believe in cooperation.

That's what makes you decline, you too much overstretched yourself, in this case Trump is actually right.

 

[gambit]

That's what makes you decline, you too much overstretched yourself, in this case Trump is actually right.

To overstretched ? Perhaps that is true, but the oft cited 'soft power' that we gained is invaluable, something that your China still struggles with.

 

[F-22Raptor]

So let's forget about GDP for a moment, China now thinks less and less of GDP growth, it's just a number and many times not accurate, but let's check about what are happening on the ground zero in every trade and industry, US is losing ground all across board to China and there's no sign of stop. Deny it as you will, but the whole world can see it.

Please, the US remains at the forefront in science and technology. We have world class companies and universities whose influence reach across the globe, while China's is largely contained to the mainland.

The US drives global progress through its technology and culture. China is an outlier.

The fact that you mentioned 1910-1990 itself shows you are declining now.


That's what makes you decline, you too much overstretched yourself, in this case Trump is actually right.

You utterly missed the point. Competition is NOT new to the United States. We've proven we can compete and remain the top dog. How about China?

 

[ARMalik]

That is hilarious considering the biggest shitty reality ( not TV show ) is the adoption of Marxism/communism by the USSR and China.

What a load of BS. You need to wake up to the fact that it is the American people living in the biggest reality show on Earth. Your Jewish controlled Hollywoods, and CNNs, and NBCs and other fake media control your thinking, your perspectives and your lives since the day you arrive on this planet. And here you sit on your arse and lecture others on how free you are and what a wonderful life you have. What you call democracy is what I call a Circus of retards in the US. Democrats and Republicans, two faces of the same coin and you think you live in this great democracy. What a joke. The amount of cyber and conventional monitoring of individuals and corporations in US is unprecedented. Your claim of freedom is laughable at the best.

 

[beijingwalker]

The US drives global progress through its technology and culture. China is an outlier.

But for how much longer. China's already increased R n D investments dramatically and now the country has already achieved great accomplishment in super computers , quantum communications, high speed railways, clean energies ..most of them could never be imagined merely a decade ago. Science, technology, education... everything depends on how much money you put in them, money make things happen, simple as that, that's why China always focuses on the economy.