Xi's China rising, Trump's America waning

[Dil Pakistan]

Oh look, we've got a conspiracy nut folks. How many times do you think I've read this throughout the years? The fact that you believe there is some kind of "deep state", just proves to me that your the mentally deficient one here.

I don't have time for your nonsense kid.

Is that it?
Is that all the argument you can present?
Is this where your knowledge ends? - just few brash statements, and some chest thumping, and you are done.
Is this your exit route?

You proved my point that "history, philosophy and intellect are not your strengths".

 

[F-22Raptor]

Is that it?
Is that all the argument you can present?
Is this where your knowledge ends? - just few brash statements, and some chest thumping, and you are done.
Is this your exit route?

I have no desire to debate over a conspiracy theory of a deep state, when in fact there is none. In fact, modern history has proven that, if true, it's had no effect on US power status considering its a full spectrum superpower.

China’s economy could drop by 25% by 2050 unless population policy is fixed


China must take urgent action on birth controls to cope with the “grim” reality of its rapidly aging society.

The Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said the country must consider either relaxing birth controls further or getting rid of them entirely.

China replaced its decades-old one-child policy two years ago, allowing all couples to have two children. But the report said that even that change was not enough to meet social needs.

China must fully relax birth controls in a timely manner.

China’s working age population – people aged 16 to 59 – shrank for the fifth year in a row last year to 907.47 million, down from 910.96 million a year earlier. That pool is expected to shrink to 700 million by 2050, a “sharp decline” from the estimated 830 million in 2030, according to the Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security.

The authorities projected the number of births would rise to 20 million each year by allowing all couples to have a second child from 2015.

But so far those projections have not been met – last year the total rose to a record 17.86 million births and the academy does not expect even that momentum to be maintained.

Some demographers said it was time to abandon all birth limits and offer support to people wanting to be parents.

Ren Yuan, a demographer from Shanghai’s Fudan University, said China needed to develop social support to help parents care for children up to kindergarten age.

“At the current rate, birth control policies can’t have much effect on promoting births. The focus should shift to social policies such as providing social support that can better smooth the link between birth and work,” Ren said.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/...y-2050-unless-population-policy-is-fixed.html

Rising China eh? Try stagnation here in a few decades.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

I have no desire to debate over a conspiracy theory of a deep state, when in fact there is none. In fact, modern history has proven that, if true, it's had no effect on US power status considering its a full spectrum superpower.

China’s economy could drop by 25% by 2050 unless population policy is fixed


China must take urgent action on birth controls to cope with the “grim” reality of its rapidly aging society.

The Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said the country must consider either relaxing birth controls further or getting rid of them entirely.

China replaced its decades-old one-child policy two years ago, allowing all couples to have two children. But the report said that even that change was not enough to meet social needs.

China must fully relax birth controls in a timely manner.

China’s working age population – people aged 16 to 59 – shrank for the fifth year in a row last year to 907.47 million, down from 910.96 million a year earlier. That pool is expected to shrink to 700 million by 2050, a “sharp decline” from the estimated 830 million in 2030, according to the Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security.

The authorities projected the number of births would rise to 20 million each year by allowing all couples to have a second child from 2015.

But so far those projections have not been met – last year the total rose to a record 17.86 million births and the academy does not expect even that momentum to be maintained.

Some demographers said it was time to abandon all birth limits and offer support to people wanting to be parents.

Ren Yuan, a demographer from Shanghai’s Fudan University, said China needed to develop social support to help parents care for children up to kindergarten age.

“At the current rate, birth control policies can’t have much effect on promoting births. The focus should shift to social policies such as providing social support that can better smooth the link between birth and work,” Ren said.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/...y-2050-unless-population-policy-is-fixed.html

Rising China eh? Try stagnation here in a few decades.

China - China - China ---- this is all your post is about.
Just go back to the previous posts and see the line of arguments; and then try and see if your last post is analogous or not.

So the "Dark State" doesn't exist - Correct?
Let me give you two examples from your country's recent history.

Why do you think Donald Trump gave Pentagon an unprecedented rise in defence budget of $54-B ?
Why do you think Donald Trump (only partially) released the JFK assassination files recently?

What does these two events point to?
What is the power struggle going on behind the scenes?
can you think?

So! the "Dark State" doesn't exist; or you don't want to see it?

......and you still haven't answered my question: what is the deficit of America in total at the moment? How many trillions?

 

[F-22Raptor]

China - China - China ---- this is all your post is about.
Just go back to the previous posts and see the line of arguments; and then try and see how your last post is analogous or not.

So the "Dark State" doesn't exist - Correct?
Let me give you two examples from your country's recent history.

Why do you think Donald Trump gave Pentagon an unprecedented rise in defence budget of $54-B ?
Why do you think Donald Trump (only partially) released the JFK assassination files recently?

What does these two events point to?
What is the power struggle going on behind the scenes?
can you think?

So! the "Dark State" doesn't exist or you don't want to see it?

......and you still haven't answered my question: what is the deficit of America in total at the moment? How many trillions?

The US military was given that boost because it's undergoing a massive modernization. It has nothing to do with a "dark state." Do you even realize how silly you sound?

The debt is $20 trillion, a debt that's proven to be manageable since we've always met our obligations. Meanwhile the economy is performing very well.

Lets look at the bottom line here. The US economy is rolling, the military is undergoing a huge modernization, world class companies and universities, a dominant player in space and energy. A culture that has immersed itself into the world and daily life. That's reality, not some "dark state" crap that your peddling.

Competition may be on the rise, but we thrive on it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Your attempting to equate a corrupt administration with a declining America. You say it's a long slow process, yet 2 decades after the Nixon administration we became the sole superpower. You see, the power resides with the American people. We can discard a President every 4 years, and even sooner if the law has been broken. In 3 years time, American policy may look completely different than it does today under a new administration. That's how quickly things can change in America.

No, in fact America has been declining in relative power every single year after 1991 which was their peak, in terms of their relative power vs the rest of the world.

America's long decline has nothing to do with Trump. Donald Trump is just a microcosm of American society as a whole.

Just look at countries like Iran and North Korea, laughing at America and spitting in their face. Would that have happened to America in 1991, 1995, 2001?

 

[Dil Pakistan]

No, in fact America has been declining in relative power every single year after 1991 which was their peak, in terms of their relative power vs the rest of the world.

America's long decline has nothing to do with Trump. Donald Trump is just a microcosm of American society as a whole.

Absolutely correct.

 

[F-22Raptor]

No, in fact America has been declining in relative power every single year after 1991 which was their peak, in terms of their relative power vs the rest of the world.

America's long decline has nothing to do with Trump. Donald Trump is just a microcosm of American society as a whole.

Just look at countries like Iran and North Korea, laughing at America and spitting in their face. Would that have happened to America in 1991, 1995, 2001?

Relative decline is irrelevant when the US still remains the top dog Dragon. Who cares that you closed a gap, when that gap is still a canyon?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Relative decline is irrelevant when the US still remains the top dog Dragon. Who cares that you closed a gap, when that gap is still a canyon?

If it's irrelevant, what's with all the crying?

I think the lady doth protest too much.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

The US military was given that boost because it's undergoing a massive modernization. It has nothing to do with a "dark state." Do you even realize how silly you sound?

The debt is $20 trillion, a debt that's proven to be manageable since we've always met our obligations. Meanwhile the economy is performing very well.

Lets look at the bottom line here. The US economy is rolling, the military is undergoing a huge modernization, world class companies and universities, a dominant player in space and energy. A culture that has immersed itself into the world and daily life. That's reality, not some "dark state" crap that your peddling.

Competition may be on the rise, but we thrive on it.

OK... so the debt is $20-Tr. ---- and your GPD is, at maximum, $30-Tr.

US economy is rolling .... !!!! Now this is just not funny, it is hilarious - A "rolling" economy is never in a $20-Tr. debt. Never ever. It is contradictory by definition.

Since you are denial about the "Dark State", let me give you two examples that I have seen myself on the tele (and let me assure you that these examples only represent a "very lighter side" of the dark state that has gripped your country).

1). Remember the 2008 financial crisis and remember Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
At the height of the crisis these two companies were in $250-B debt and were about to sink. At that time there was no plan from Congress or Senate to bail out any company that was in debt.
Their CEO came on the TV and gave an interview. He openly said that we have bank rolled the campaigns of these Senators and Congressmen and now is the time to pay back.
They were given $250-B from public money and were bailed out.
A week later Lehman Brothers sank and did not receive a penny.

Do you understand the meaning of this?

2). At the same time - 2008 - a stock broker from the Stock Market came on the TV and openly said this: "do you people think that your elected Presidents make the country's policy? You would be deluded if you think so. The CEO of Morgan Stanley (MS) tells the Presidents and PMs what policy they (MS) want and they have to deliver it".

Do you understand the meaning of this?

So the "Dark State" doesn't exist? - CORRECT?

........and as I said, these are very "mild" examples.

 

[VCheng]

If it was on TV, it MUST be true!

@F-22Raptor You gotta accept it now!

 

[Dil Pakistan]

If it was on TV, it MUST be true!

@F-22Raptor You gotta accept it now!

It happened during an interview on the news channel.
It was at the peak of the crisis, when no body had a clue what is going to happen next.

 

[F-22Raptor]

If it's irrelevant, what's with all the crying?

I think the lady doth protest too much.

Just keeping the facts straight here Dragon. After all, we all know that you waste no chance to stick it to America.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Just keeping the facts straight here Dragon. After all, we all know that you waste no chance to stick it to America.

Sure, clearly you have no anti-China bias either right?

Relative decline is irrelevant when the US still remains the top dog Dragon. Who cares that you closed a gap, when that gap is still a canyon?

This is your entire problem. You have some egotistical need to be "top dog", whereas China never wanted or cared about that.

This is why American society is tearing itself apart, electing a psychopath who promised to "make America great again" by making America hated all across the world. And who would launch a nuclear war with North Korea as long as he believed the Trump family dynasty could benefit from it.

Someone who egotistically and narcissistically needs to be "top dog" can never accept their decline, even though it is inevitable. Hence the sad behaviour of America in the past few years, and in the last few days in which the entire world basically laughed in the face of American threats in the UN.

Now look at how even a rogue regime like North Korea can prick the American balloon so easily. Let's see how long Donald Trump can keep his cool before he sets North Korea on a path to a nuclear exchange with the USA. That is the end result of this war of egos.

 

[F-22Raptor]

If it was on TV, it MUST be true!

@F-22Raptor You gotta accept it now!

Absolutely, we're done for. The dollar will die before the New Year, and the "dark state" will engulf us all. The US economy will implode because PDF geniuses say so. I just hope the millions of immigrants are made aware before the end.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Absolutely, we're done for. The dollar will die before the New Year, and the "dark state" will engulf us all. The US economy will implode because PDF geniuses say so. I just hope the millions of immigrants are made aware before the end.

....actually the "one in denial" is the real genius.