Maula Jatt
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I wasn't comparing with just its Pakistani counterpart I was saying it was the richest province/state in south Asia period till the late 80s after the Afghan war blowback things have not been what they used to be - true but even now it is still among top 2-3 states when competing with other noncoastal provinces/states(cause coastline areas are supposed to be rich due to their close excess to sea, their opportunity for growth is probably x10 more)Historically Punjab's contribution in Pakistan's economy has been tremendous, naturally, being the largest ethnic group, you would expect that, if not, you would want to see more contribution. if Punjab were to be a separate country right now, it would be ranked in the top 10 most populous country in the world about the size of Russia.
good leadership is needed for that and fauji adventures need to be curbed- if not then not just one province 4-5 of us will continue to suffer and fall behindYet the individual successes are no where close to a country like that.
except for interior Sindh, he'd probably be treated the same everywhere in Pak or for that matter in most countries of ME too - sad but trueMore needs to be done. Most of the economy is agriculture which the British developed. I wish there were more people like Abdus Salam who btw a family member of mine had developed a scientific relationship with him. Rather than appreciating what he did for Pakistan and making Punjabis proud, people of Punjab disowned him and still as we speak people do inappropriate stuff with his grave in Jhang.
cause its what 35-40% of the country, you won't have it in the first place unless a minority starts oppressing people, nor can the country really afford itLike I said there is no such thing as Punjabi nationalism as if there was ever one, perhaps there would have been more political leaders.
land was never blessed with the good leader of men throughout history despite its many qualities - I agree with this flawThe only recognizable leaders were Zia ul Haq but like someone here mentioned he brought an influx of Afghan refugees and migrants so he can't be considered a Punjabi nationalist. The other recognizable heads of state of Punjabi origin were Chaudhary Shujat, Raja Pervez Ashraf, Yusuf Raza Gilani, and Shahid Khaqan Abbasi but they were very short lived and not independent to make their policies.
Braah.... "Kashmiris" of Punjab haha , they are considered baradari or a clan, not a groupWe Kashmiris are probably 1% of Pakistan's population yet we have a comparable number of scholars and artists. Obviously Dr. Alama Iqbal and Ghani Kashmiri are well known poet figure everyone knows from Persia to Spain, but we also had people like Dr. Mahbub ul Haq, whose plans are famous for developing modern South Korea and to have founded the HDI. If I start mentioning Pakistanis of Kashmiri origin, it would be a long list so I won't dwell too much on that...Btw I'm not a fan of biased journalists like Dr. Moed Peerzada, but again he is a Kashmiri and I respect that he is from my culture and that he is a doctor. Our differences of opinion doesn't change who we are. That's the beauty.
literally more Punjabi in culture, language, and traditions than a lot of people, Kashmiri Punjabis are in majority in interior Lahore, - no one goes to the interior city to experience Srinagar they go to experience Punjabi culture, food etc
Sharif clan is considered Punjabi in both Punjab and outside Punjab, cause they follow the language, traditions etc
only distinction this baradari has is they live in urban Punjab because they were not allowed to own land, so, have been in urban areas for 100s of years unlike others who came recently from rural areas - this is literally all lol