Will Pakistan Recognize Israel?

[zain41]

As for why Pakistan does not recognize the state, it is because

1. It is believed that the state was created unfairly and dishonestly leaving the locals at a disadvantage
2. It is believed that the treatment of Arabs under Israeli rule has been unfair
3. The repeated assaults on Palestinian lands (Gaza and the West Bank) have created a humanitarian disaster for the people living there, Pakistan stands in solidarity with these people
4. The expansionary policy of Israel, which includes building settlements on internationally accepted Palestinian lands is seen by Pakistan as an attempt to divide the natives of the land
5. Growing India-Israel military ties is a big threat for Pakistan. And Pakistan feels insecure because of it, specially Missile defense system which India is getting through Israel, may result in neutralizing the Nuclear strike capacity of Pakistan, which is being taken as the life line for Pakistan. So going to have ties with someone who is friend of your mortal enemy is quite unnatural
6. It is highly believed among the ruling class of Pakistan that in 1982 Israel planned a covert air raid, to neutralize the Nuclear program of Pakistan using the Indian air bases. But that plan was turned down by Indra Gandhi (The then Prime Minister of India), fearing the counter strike of Pakistan on Trombay (The Nuclear Plant of India), and also by the fear of backlash of US and China. (US was then completely aligned towards Pakistan because of its Anti USSR motives). But still this plan of Israel is being taken as a serious enemous motive of Israel towards Pakistan. And definitely a major dent in the thought processes of Pakistani’s towards Israel.
7. Religious sentimental ties of Pakistani people attached to Palestine. (Although majority of the them don't know much about Palestine-Israel conflict, except that Israel has occupied Palestine land, and kills innocent people of Palestine and Lebanon).
8. If Pakistan tries to tie with Israel, India would definitely oppose with its full capacity, as a fear of Israeli technology transfer to Pakistan and will pressurize Israel to not to do it, and in current scenario it seems difficult for Israel to set apart India for Pakistan.

Now let's come into present. Why do Pakistan still not recognize Israel. There's only one reason: how could do it when nothing has changed? Musharraf hinted on recognizing Israel as soon as Palestine and Israel reach any solution.

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It is all about Iran.

Pakistan will be in good company of Turkiye & Saudi Arabia when it recognizes Israel.

Unless you are a shia, you should be supporting this move.

Imo pakistan won’t hold any moral footing in Kashmir if they accept israel.. no more UN speeches and gaining sympathy for kashmiris when you accept israel who regularly violate human rights just as how the Indians do..

pakistan won’t get any financial benefit from recognizing israel.. it would only ensure that status quo is maintained in terms of financial affairs with the arabs

Pakistan will try and hope that status quo is maintained irrespective of us recognizing israel and that might be our best bet(imo)

Bangladesh will dance to any tunes that India, GCC countries or USA play, they will also accept Israel.

But the reason why KSA wants Pakistan to accept it first is because it will legitimize their approach, as Pakistan is perhaps the only Muslim country with a decent Armed forces and also possess nuclear weapons, so whichever route Pakistan decide to take will definitely have an impact on the foriegn policies of middle east, whereas Bangladesh stance doesn't matter in big scheme of things, nobody cares about them.

Sorry if I appeared to harsh, but that's the truth.

why is saudi so eager to do so?
Isolate iran? I mean how much more do you need to isolate iran

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Imo pakistan won’t hold any moral footing in Kashmir if they accept israel.. no more UN speeches and gaining sympathy for kashmiris when you accept israel who regularly violate human rights just as how the Indians do..

pakistan won’t get any financial benefit from recognizing israel.. it would only ensure that status quo is maintained in terms of financial affairs with the arabs

Pakistan will try and hope that status quo is maintained irrespective of us recognizing israel and that might be our best bet(imo)

Both Turkiye and SA are allied to Israel.

So whose support are you looking for?

Iran?

 

[Xerxes22]

Bangladesh will dance to any tunes that India, GCC countries or USA play, they will also accept Israel.

But the reason why KSA wants Pakistan to accept it first is because it will legitimize their approach, as Pakistan is perhaps the only Muslim country with a decent Armed forces and also possess nuclear weapons, so whichever route Pakistan decide to take will definitely have an impact on the foriegn policies of middle east, whereas Bangladesh stance doesn't matter in big scheme of things, nobody cares about them.

Sorry if I appeared to harsh, but that's the truth.

You dont know anything about Bangladesh. They are very sentimental about religion. They will burn down the Parliament If any govt had the audacity to do so. The awami League are the most radical in this stance. This will never happen as doing this will cause tens of millions to flood the street and burn down Dhaka city.

Educate urself first before talkingabout things u know nothing of.

Yes nobody cares about Bangladesh. But the way u mention Pakistan is like , Pakistan is a state which can be bullied by the Lil Saudis. So you are contradicting all ur statements about Pakistani Power

Pakistan is legitimately powerful and can hold its stance no matter what Powerful countries say. And thats wat they shud do

 

[zain41]

You dont know anything about Bangladesh. They are very sentimental about religion. They will burn down the Parliament If any govt had the audacity to do so. The awami League are the most radical in this stance. This will never happen as doing this will cause tens of millions to flood the street and burn down Dhaka city.

Educate urself first before talkingabout things u know nothing of.

Yes nobody cares about Bangladesh. But the way u mention Pakistan is like , Pakistan is a state which can be bullied by the Lil Saudis. So you are contradicting all ur statements about Pakistani Power

Pakistan is legitimately powerful and can hold its stance no matter what Powerful countries say. And thats wat they shud do

do bengalis care/protest for Kashmiris ?

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

You dont know anything about Bangladesh. They are very sentimental about religion. They will burn down the Parliament If any govt had the audacity to do so. The awami League are the most radical in this stance. This will never happen as doing this will cause tens of millions to flood the street and burn down Dhaka city.

Educate urself first before talkingabout things u know nothing of.

Yes nobody cares about Bangladesh. But the way u mention Pakistan is like , Pakistan is a state which can be bullied by the Lil Saudis. So you are contradicting all ur statements about Pakistani Power

Pakistan is legitimately powerful and can hold its stance no matter what Powerful countries say. And thats wat they shud do

Even if you burn down your whole country, no one cares.

No one cares what you think. You opinion just does not have any value.

There is a reason why all eyes are on Pakistan and not Bangladesh.

 

[Xerxes22]

do bengalis care/protest for Kashmiris ?

They damn sure do. You can bet ur house that 95% of Bangladeshis want Kashmiri Independece. Do they go out on the street and protest? No, cuz there was a bitter war between the two countries and thats where things get complicated. But an overwhelming majority seek and hope for Kashmiri independence. They see it as a muslim issue.

 

[achhu]

do bengalis care/protest for Kashmiris ?

bangalis know better how you treated them , so they understand kashmiris are well in india .

 

[Xerxes22]

Even if you burn down your whole country, no one cares.

No one cares what you think. You opinion just does not have any value.

There is a reason why all eyes are on Pakistan and not Bangladesh.

No one doubts that. Bangladesh is insignifant. Im not a clown, I know the facts.
Im just talking about wat approach shud be taken. Be it significant or not they still took the right step.

And guess where ur eyes shud be? In the borders where u created a whole heap of mess with two powerful nuclear armed neighbours. Our future is more secured than yours.

 

[zain41]

They damn sure do. You can bet ur house that 95% of Bangladeshis want Kashmiri Independece. Do they go out on the street and protest? No, cuz there was a bitter war between the two countries and thats where things get complicated. But an overwhelming majority seek and hope for Kashmiri independence. They see it as a muslim issue.

All I’m trying to say is that
Bengalis don’t care about israel
Israel doesn’t care about bengalis

the Bangladeshi govt can say whatever it wants about israel no one will really care not even bengalis themselves however when there are atrocities being committed against fellow muslims in their own backyard there is not a voice to be heard, not from the government itself anyways..
So let’s stop with this

 

[achhu]

It’s a question between morality and material benefit

leaving uyighars for material benefit tell all about mortality .

 

[zain41]

leaving uyighars for material benefit tell all about mortality .

two completely different situations though..

 

[Maira La]

bangalis know better how you treated them , so they understand kashmiris are well in india .

No Muslim is well in India. Muslims, Dalits and Hindu women need to be liberated asap.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

No one doubts that. Bangladesh is insignifant. Im not a clown, I know the facts.
Im just talking about wat approach shud be taken. Be it significant or not they still took the right step.

And guess where ur eyes shud be? In the borders where u created a whole heap of mess with two powerful nuclear armed neighbours. Our future is more secured than yours.

Only non vassal states get into problems.

Vassal states are always secured.

You are a vassal state of China. Hence you are secured.

 

[mumairb]

I am not questioning the religious sentiments of common Bengalis, I know they care about both Kashmir and Palestine but they have a fascist lady at the helm of affairs who is also in bed with Indians, so why would on expect Bengali government to take a stand when it is merely a puppet in the hands of Indians ?

Did you forget what their PM said in her speech in UN after IK's speech, and beside she has hanged maby leaders of Jamati e Islami..

So, I will say again Bangladesh is not that important in big schemes of things, and they will do what the Arabs told them to do.

And I never contradicted my own statement with regards to Pakistan, our Army is strong but we have a weak economy and it will take a huge blow if the Arabs decided to repatriate the workers in UAE

You dont know anything about Bangladesh. They are very sentimental about religion. They will burn down the Parliament If any govt had the audacity to do so. The awami League are the most radical in this stance. This will never happen as doing this will cause tens of millions to flood the street and burn down Dhaka city.

Educate urself first before talkingabout things u know nothing of.

Yes nobody cares about Bangladesh. But the way u mention Pakistan is like , Pakistan is a state which can be bullied by the Lil Saudis. So you are contradicting all ur statements about Pakistani Power

Pakistan is legitimately powerful and can hold its stance no matter what Powerful countries say. And thats wat they shud do

 

[Xerxes22]

bangalis know better how you treated them , so they understand kashmiris are well in india .

Absolutely untrue.Let me give you a funny example. Even When Pak Vs Ind cricket matches are played the overwhelming support is for Pakistan, And if sum people support the Indian cricket team then big eye brows are raised. This happens from the narrow streets to all the Cafeterias. And lemme assure you, The same sentiment is in place in a war scenario between the two countries. They just dont say it publicly cuz of 71