Will give Independence to kashmir PM Imran

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

This has been discussed to death. Indian stand remains that as per Shimla Agreement the matter will be settled bilaterally. That means UN is no longer involved. Whether Pakistan or UN state otherwise, it won't change Indian stance.

India's stance does not override the UN Charter nor the commitment made in Simla to the UN Charter, which in turn means abiding by commitments to implement the UNSC Resolutions.

As you pointed out, it has been discussed to death that the text of Simla includes nothing that overrides the commitment of both States to implement the UNSC Resolutions.

And we already know that India is a rogue, depraved and deplorable State that continues the forcible occupation of J&K, refuses to abide by its commitments to allow a UN led plebiscite for the people J&K, and whose 600,000 plus security forces continue perpetrating atrocities on innocent Kashmiris.

It's like saying that the Nazis refused to change their mind about committing a holocaust of millions of Jews because 'the world stated otherwise'.

 

[KurtisBrian]

exactly, which is why I as a Kashmiri would always vote to remain part of Pakistan.

Also I believe that Allah gave us the opportunity of Pakistan to unite, not so we could further divide. Only those interested in wielding power for themselves, have any interest in diving brothers.

Wonder why the vote isn't given to all people in Pakistan? If it is part of Pakistan then in a democracy shouldn't every adult citizen get a vote? seems anti-democratic to have such votes.

 

[Jackdaws]

India's stance does not override the UN Charter nor the commitment made in Simla to the UN Charter, which in turn means abiding by commitments to implement the UNSC Resolutions.

As you pointed out, it has been discussed to death that the text of Simla includes nothing that overrides the commitment of both States to implement the UNSC Resolutions.

And we already know that India is a rogue, depraved and deplorable State that continues the forcible occupation of J&K, refuses to abide by its commitments to allow a UN led plebiscite for the people J&K, and whose 600,000 plus security forces continue perpetrating atrocities on innocent Kashmiris.

It's like saying that the Nazis refused to change their mind about committing a holocaust of millions of Jews because 'the world stated otherwise'.

1. What's stopping you from going to some international jurisdiction and forcing India to accept your PoV?

2. The only one who have acted like Nazis in South Asia have been the Pakistanis in East Pakistan.

 

[Village life]

So giving Kashmiris a choice will make PM unpopular? Do I smell Khota Biryani consumer here?

Your comment is enough to declare you a khota follower ,just wait and see what sane people say about IK in few days, secondly Bajwa after the dumb PM's statement have categorically said kashmir issue MUST be solved accordingly to UN resolutions and in these resolutions the option which your supper genius Ik is talking doesn't exist , perhaps it's a desire of uncle sam which Ik is advocating, this is one of the reasons china is not happy with Ik , nor Ik is interested in CPEC,

 

[hussain0216]

So I guess if Pakistan occupied Kashmire becomes independent then India or China can invade and conquer it. Wouldn't have anything to do with Pakistan anymore. World has a long history of nations invading and taking.

I am from Azad Kashmir

Everyone I know, relations, people, villages and towns her would overwhelmingly vote for Pakistan

What IK is saying let the people of Kashmir choosh and have a free referendum

But really he knows Pakistan would win the referendum, hence he is quite blasé

It's the Indians who have pain in their asses because they know that they would lose any referendum, so they are trying to force a occupation that's created endless conflict in South Asia

 

[Patriot forever]

This is what IK was referring to.

 

[Jackdaws]

India already broke the Shimla agreement when it cancelled Article 370 and so on.

No where is adherence to Article 370 even mentioned in the Shimla Agreement. And Article 370 is / was part of the Indian Constitution. No country in the world puts an Article in its own Constitution as part of some give and take in a bilateral or multilateral Agreement.

 

[Norwegian]

Your comment is enough to declare you a khota follower ,just wait and see what sane people say about IK in few days, secondly Bajwa after the dumb PM's statement have categorically said kashmir issue MUST be solved accordingly to UN resolutions and in these resolutions the option which your supper genius Ik is talking doesn't exist , perhaps it's a desire of uncle sam which Ik is advocating, this is one of the reasons china is not happy with Ik , nor Ik is interested in CPEC,

IK never talked about giving away Gilgit Baltistan, Patwari. He was talking about Azad Kashmir and Occupied Kashmir. Gilgit Baltistan is integral part of Pakistan where CPEC route is located.

 

[Village life]

IK never talked about giving away Gilgit Baltistan, Patwari. He was talking about Azad Kashmir and Occupied Kashmir. Gilgit Baltistan is integral part of Pakistan where CPEC route is located.

Keep barking ,I am not a patwari,

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

No where is adherence to Article 370 even mentioned in the Shimla Agreement. And Article 370 is / was part of the Indian Constitution. No country in the world puts an Article in its own Constitution as part of some give and take in a bilateral or multilateral Agreement.

from the Shimla Agreement. "Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organization, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peace and harmonious relations."

 

[masterchief_mirza]

On the kashmir day pm Imran Khan have said that will give people of kashmir the choice of to be a independent country. He further said that it's entirely on the people of Kashmir that they either want to be a part of Pakistan or to be a independent new country. His this statement is going to be criticized in Pakistan by the masses and will be labelled as a traitor by the opposition,. Prime Minister's this statement is going to cost him heavily,

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Once fully liberated, we're happy whether Kashmiris choose independence or Pakistan. Do Patwaris have a problem with that?

 

[Jackdaws]

from the Shimla Agreement. "Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organization, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peace and harmonious relations."

Exactly. The situation hasn't been altered - India has not crossed the LoC. What's the point you are trying to make?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

It's like a test for the Kashmiri folks!! Hopefully, they prove themselves better than the Bangals......

BD is by, of and for the Mushrikin...

 

[Che palle]

Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris. Hindis f off from there

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Exactly. The situation hasn't been altered - India has not crossed the LoC. What's the point you are trying to make?

Why do you act dumb and feign ignorance when clearly you're one of the smarter individuals around here?

India has actually unilaterally revised the "LOC"'s status and turned it into a ceasefire line. India's definition of JnK is that it is no longer "disputed territory" within which a line of control exists separating Indian controlled and Pakistani controlled sectors, but rather, India now regards its side as bona fide India, while Pakistan's side is regarded by India as "PoccupiedK". This renders the LOC a simple CFL between warring parties.

Aside from the LOC, India has entirely encouraged and created through subversion a situation to the detriment of peace and harmony between the belligerent parties.

Literally everything in that paragraph quoted from the Shimla agreement has been broken by India, unilaterally, without provocation.