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Why there are no powerful Punjabi Muslims from History?

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haripur in NWFP named after famous sikh general who conquered these areas

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district manshera named after mansher singh

Both districts are non-pashtun, beside hindko speaking hazara you sikhs only ruled peshawer division and that only for 14 years. On the other hand we pashtuns have ruled your entire punjab many times. Not just punjab, our horses and swords have reached upto bey of bengal..not just hindostan we have also terrorized and ruled persia...
"we made you wear muslim dress shalwar kameez", your dhoti was too open.
 
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Both districts are non-pashtun, beside hindko speaking hazara you sikhs only ruled peshawer division and that only for 14 years. On the other hand we pashtuns have ruled your entire punjab many times. Not just punjab, our horses and swords have reached upto bey of bengal..not just hindostan we have also terrorized and ruled persia...
"we made you wear muslim dress shalwar kameez", your dhoti was too open.

hmm.. nothing has changed
 
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this small frock is afghans men original dress


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this is pashtoon womens original dress

Both districts are non-pashtun, beside hindko speaking hazara you sikhs only ruled peshawer division and that only for 14 years. On the other hand we pashtuns have ruled your entire punjab many times. Not just punjab, our horses and swords have reached upto bey of bengal..not just hindostan we have also terrorized and ruled persia...
"we made you wear muslim dress shalwar kameez", your dhoti was too open.

you make up false history.. when did pushtoons ever ruled us. ahmed shah abdali who was himself born in multan punjab ruled punjab for 1 year only before afghans were crushed by sikhs. which else pashtoon ever ruled us.. plz enlightened me. n sikhs ruled you until british took over not just 14 years. there are forts in peshawar built by sikhs
 
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this small frock is afghans men original dress


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this is pashtoon womens original dress



you make up false history.. when did pushtoons ever ruled us. ahmed shah abdali who was himself born in multan punjab ruled punjab for 1 year only before afghans were crushed by sikhs. which else pashtoon ever ruled us.. plz enlightened me. n sikhs ruled you until british took over not just 14 years. there are forts in peshawar built by sikhs

the firock type dress you are talking about , is wear for attan dance as in such dance you have to spin. Have you ever seen dress of turkish sufi dervesh dance, it is also circuler type as you have to spin also in that dance
the dress of you punjabis is dhoti, we pashtuns introduced you people to shalwar kameez. And before islam you people were living practically nude.
 
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sikh bhangra dress chadra and kurta

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kurta pyjama

you pashtoon even today live like animals in caves and mudhuts. in 21st century you live in tribes and here you have the audicity of claiming you introduces something to world.. the people who think polio vaccination is satanic. hahhaha
 
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This thread is the exact reason why I don't believe in tribes/ethnic backgrounds, look at all this stupid chest thumping.
 
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The Shalwar Kameez and its adoption by Pathans and Afghans


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History is a peculiar combination of a record of wars and its effects. It also affected the dress worn at that time. One dress that is so common among the men and women of the North West Frontier and Punjab is the Shalwar Kameez. It consists of a loose shirt up to the knees and under it is a trouser called the Shalwar which is tied at the waist with cord. The shalwar is broad at the thighs and tapers to an embroidered collar around the ankles. This was the original dress , but now many innovations have been made.

This was the standard dress of the Sikh women in the Punjab, but was never worn by the men. In the 19th century one man named Hari Singh Nalwa terrorized the Afghans and the men of the frontier. Hari Singh Nalwa was a general of the army of Maharajah Ranjit Singh who was intent on expanding the Sikh empire further west. His capital was Lahore.

In a series of battles from Multan, Jamrud, Peshawar the Afghans were badly beaten. The name of Nalwa now created a great fear psychosis among the Pathans and they wondered what to do. Hari Singh was a ruthless man and the Afghans were loathing to be captured by him.

They also learnt that Hari Singh as per his code of conduct spared the women and the children. The Afghans thought of a plan to escape from the battle field. They decided that the best course was to wear the shalwar kameez, the dress worn by the Sikh women and escape. This ruse was successful in a number of cases particularly during the night. The Afghans and the Nathans thus started wearing the shalwar Kameez and now it is worn by both men and women in the North West Frontier and Punjab. It has become the standard dress of the Afghan and Pathan men. People may well ask, as to what was the dress of the Pathans before they adopted the Shalwar Kameez. The Pathans wore a robe similar to what the Arabs wear now.

This thread is the exact reason why I don't believe in tribes/ethnic backgrounds, look at all this stupid chest thumping.

yaar assi punjabi ya..pehla manda bolida nahi. par agar panga peh javay fir pichay hateee da nahin.
 
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The Shalwar Kameez and its adoption by Pathans and Afghans


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History is a peculiar combination of a record of wars and its effects. It also affected the dress worn at that time. One dress that is so common among the men and women of the North West Frontier and Punjab is the Shalwar Kameez. It consists of a loose shirt up to the knees and under it is a trouser called the Shalwar which is tied at the waist with cord. The shalwar is broad at the thighs and tapers to an embroidered collar around the ankles. This was the original dress , but now many innovations have been made.

This was the standard dress of the Sikh women in the Punjab, but was never worn by the men. In the 19th century one man named Hari Singh Nalwa terrorized the Afghans and the men of the frontier. Hari Singh Nalwa was a general of the army of Maharajah Ranjit Singh who was intent on expanding the Sikh empire further west. His capital was Lahore.

In a series of battles from Multan, Jamrud, Peshawar the Afghans were badly beaten. The name of Nalwa now created a great fear psychosis among the Pathans and they wondered what to do. Hari Singh was a ruthless man and the Afghans were loathing to be captured by him.

They also learnt that Hari Singh as per his code of conduct spared the women and the children. The Afghans thought of a plan to escape from the battle field. They decided that the best course was to wear the shalwar kameez, the dress worn by the Sikh women and escape. This ruse was successful in a number of cases particularly during the night. The Afghans and the Nathans thus started wearing the shalwar Kameez and now it is worn by both men and women in the North West Frontier and Punjab. It has become the standard dress of the Afghan and Pathan men. People may well ask, as to what was the dress of the Pathans before they adopted the Shalwar Kameez. The Pathans wore a robe similar to what the Arabs wear now.



yaar assi punjabi ya..pehla manda bolida nahi. par agar panga peh javay fir pichay hateee da nahin.
Coolstroybro, punjabi this, Pathan this, you guys are stupid to be honest, get real.
 
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kurta pyjama

you pashtoon even today live like animals in caves and mudhuts. in 21st century you live in tribes and here you have the audicity of claiming you introduces something to world.. the people who think polio vaccination is satanic. hahhaha

Cool down buddy, With the rise of Sikhism Punjabi people become united :cheers:

They also learnt that Hari Singh as per his code of conduct spared the women and the children. The Afghans thought of a plan to escape from the battle field. They decided that the best course was to wear the shalwar kameez, the dress worn by the Sikh women and escape. This ruse was successful in a number of cases particularly during the night. The Afghans and the Nathans thus started wearing the shalwar Kameez and now it is worn by both men and women in the North West Frontier and Punjab. It has become the standard dress of the Afghan and Pathan men. People may well ask, as to what was the dress of the Pathans before they adopted the Shalwar Kameez. The Pathans wore a robe similar to what the Arabs wear now.

I have no idea whether this narrative is true or not, But funny indeed :lol:
 
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no offence to punjabis but there are few things that i've noticed about punjabis

1.they are quick witted and clever.
2.they makes these silly jokes and laugh loudly(i love when they do this).
3.if you are from sub continent and you have light color punjabis will think you are a punjabi.
4.punjabis are not fighting material.they just love to sit out and watch.
5.they always like to tell that bieng a punjabi and sikh is same thing(which i think is not true)

6.punjabis loves being at the winning side.
7.foreign jaane ka shouk bhe sabse jayada punjabis ko he hota hai
 
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no offence to punjabis but there are few things that i've noticed about punjabis

1.they are quick witted and clever.
2.they makes these silly jokes and laugh loudly(i love when they do this).
3.if you are from sub continent and you have light color punjabis will think you are a punjabi.
4.punjabis are not fighting material.they just love to sit out and watch.
5.they always like to tell that bieng a punjabi and sikh is same thing(which i think is not true)

6.punjabis loves being at the winning side.
7.foreign jaane ka shouk bhe sabse jayada punjabis ko he hota hai

all true except 4 and 7...we dont like to fight unless provoked. foreign janay k shok isleye hai kyoke in 80s and 90s it was hard to find job especially in malwa belt of punjab. otherwise kiska dil karta hai punjab chor kar kahee janay ko.
 
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all true except 4 and 7...we dont like to fight unless provoked. foreign janay k shok isleye hai kyoke in 80s and 90s it was hard to find job especially in malwa belt of punjab. otherwise kiska dil karta hai punjab chor kar kahee janay ko.
i will stick to the 4th one.
a punjabi himself confessed it to me because he thought i was a punjabi.
usne mereko bola ke yaar sadde punjabiyon ki yahi gal mennu galat lagadi hai rode(pangay) kay time sab gayab ho jaande nee.
 
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i will stick to the 4th one.
a punjabi himself confessed it to me because he thought i was a punjabi.
usne mereko bola ke yaar sadde punjabiyon ki yahi gal mennu galat lagadi hai rode(pangay) kay time sab gayab ho jaande nee.
dunno but usually in the time of panga we do help each other out..recently pakistanis in arab country take panga with sikhs and they killed the pakistani. judje give punishment of death by beheading.. one sikh came forward paid blood money in millions and get all of them freee. which other community have examples like this. plz tell me

all over punjab there is free langar and they will stop the buses to serve it. nowhere else in india or pakistan. there are times when punjabis raised millions in times of disaster

and also read the names of persons in exile in kala pani during independence movement. majority punjabis..read the names who died in the movement ... mainly punjabis.. recently takea look at the pictures of kargil martyr..how many punjabis.
 
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HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM A BOOK BY A PAKISTANI GENERAL...

Subject: Portrait of Bravery

Maj. General M. Khan of Pakistan wrote in his book
'Crisis of Leadership' about the bravery of the Sikh
soldiers during the Indo-Pak war. Here are some
excerpts:

"....the main reason of our defeat was Sikhs fighting
facing us. We were helpless to do anything in front of
them. Sikhs are very brave and they have a great
craving for martyrdom. They fight so fiercely that
they are capable of defeating an army many times
bigger than theirs."

"....On 3rd December 1971, we fiercely and vigorously
attacked the Indian army with our infantry brigade
near Hussainiwala border.. This brigade included
Pakistan army's fighter Punjabi regiment together with
the Baloch regiment. Within minutes we pushed the
Indian army quite far back. Their defence posts fell
under our control. The Indian army was retreating back
very fast and the Pakistani army was going forward
with a great speed. Our army reached near the
Kausre-Hind post. There was a small segment of the
Indian army appointed to defend that post and their
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network Why pakistan lost all its wars ??
soldiers belonged to the Sikh Regiment. A few number
of the Sikh Regiment stopped our way forward like an
iron wall. They loudly greeted us with the ovation of
'Bole-so-Nihal' and attacked us like blood thirsty
hungry lions and hawks. All these soldiers were Sikhs.
There was even a dreadful hand-to-hand battle. The sky
filled with roars of 'Yaa Ali' and 'Sat-Siri-Akal'.
Even in this hand-to-hand fighting the Sikhs fought so
bravely that all our desires, aspirations and dreams
were shattered."
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network Why pakistan lost all its wars ??

".....In this war Lt. Col Gulab Hussain of Baloch
Regiment got killed. With him Major Mohammed Zaeef and
Captain Arif Alim also died. It was difficult to count
the number of soldiers who got killed. We were
astonished to see the courage of those handful of Sikh
soldiers. When we seized the possession of the
three-storey defence post of concrete, the Sikh
soldiers went onto the roof and kept on persistently
opposing us. The whole night they kept on showering
fires on us and continued shouting the loud ovation of
'Sat-Siri-Akal'. These Sikh soldiers kept on the
encounter till the next day.

Next day the Pakistani tanks surrounded this post and
bombed it with guns. Those handful of Sikhs got
martyred in this encounter while resisting us, but
other Sikh soldiers then destroyed our tanks with the
help of their artillery. Fighting with great bravery
they kept on marching forward and thus our army lost
its foothold."

"....Alas, a handful of Sikhs converted our great
victory into a big defeat and shattered our confidence
and courage. ."

"....The same thing happened with us in
Dhaka(Bangladesh). In the battle of Jaissur, the
Singhs opposed the Pakistani army so fiercely that our
backbone and our foothold was lost. This became the
main and important reason of our defeat and the Sikhs'
fancy for martyrdom and mockery with death for the
sake of safety and honour of the country, became the
sole cause of their victory."

Similar type of comments were made by Pakistani army
in East Pakistan under the leadership of General Niazi
while surrendering their weapons to General Jagjit
Singh Arora. The bravery and spirit of sacrifice of
Sikhs were respected and honoured by one and all. May
God rest the souls of all the fallen soldiers (Sikhs
and Pakistanis), in peace. Thought: "Sawa Lakh se ek
laraun, chirian to(n) main baaj taranun, tabhe Gobind
Singh naam kahaun" (Unless I raise one to stand
against many, cause sparrow spurn hawk, I shall not
deserve to be called Gobind Singh.) Regards Sodhi
Singh






yaar sharm ani chahiye onku jo hamaray pay ungli uthatay hai....battle of longowala, battle of saragrahi...does this tell you something about p[unjabis..
 
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any group if pushed to the wall or has sufficient reason/motivation to fight will fight......

its more of a human instinct than any racial insticts....its either fight or flight and humans usually choose fight as the last option...
 
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